RippleGylf she/her Posted June 16, 2016 Author Posted June 16, 2016 Cycle ends at 8pm EST. (in about twenty minutes)
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Okay, lynching Bugsy and passing my item to Bard. If Bugsy turns up village, Mckeedee looks more suspicious to me. I still suspect Zas. I'm lynching Bugsy to get more info about Mckeedee and because he doesn't have an item and hasn't been participating much lately.
RippleGylf she/her Posted June 17, 2016 Author Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Crepuscula sat on the soft grass, staring at the silver rings that were all that protected her - all that protected all of them - from death. Such thin, delicate things, yet even as she watched a shade drifted up to them and flinched back when the edge of its... body, she supposed, insofar as they could have bodies, touched the silver. Then her gaze drifted past the rings of silver to the shadows beyond. Shades drifted about aimlessly for the most part, eyes glowing green, but a very few had eyes still red. They’d been like that since the horrible night that she only vaguely remembered, stumbling here in the dark, red-glowing eyes all around... She shuddered and rose, stepping closer to the silver. The night was drawing on, and soon it would be the twilight before dawn. I should probably get some sleep, she reflected. Maybe tomorrow I’ll finally be able to organize them effectively enough that we can figure out who the murderer is. She’d been trying and trying, and she thought that maybe tomorrow would be the day it finally worked. Today they’d had to kill Beckett, and they’d been wrong. The image of his pleading face, just before he died... But she ruthlessly blocked that from her memory. There was no room for self-recrimination, not now. She was so close... The hairs rose on the back of her neck. She froze in place, dread sickening her stomach. Too close, she thought bitterly. She heard a voice behind her. “Sorry, dear. But we couldn’t have you going and catching us, could we?” She dodged to the side, but hands were already there, catching her and tossing her bodily right over the silver rings into the shades. And while it hadn’t been running... being tossed was moving entirely fast enough to be noticed. And as the first light of dawn began to infuse the sky, Crepuscula was swallowed by a hundred angry shades, and was gone. (This write-up brought to you by Elbereth.) Bugsy was lynched! He was a Crewmember! Elbereth was killed! She was a Crewmember! Vote Tally: The Young Bard (1): Sart Winter (1): Joe Joe (1): Elbereth Bugsy (2): Mckeedee, Lopen Edited November 12, 2016 by Alvron Write-up! 4
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Okay, seriously, now I'm even more suspicious of both Mckeedee and Zas. Everyone, please reveal what Action you took. I passed my item to Bard. I did not receive any items. Edit: Everyone was online at a good enough time to send in the Mutineer kill except Winter. She was never online for the past Cycle. So her and I are cleared of having made the kill. Can anyone else prove themselves? Mckeedee conveniently can't, seeing as Elbereth was killed. So I believe either Mckeedee is being framed or he's a Mutineer. Sart, Bard and Zas can't prove themselves either, since they didn't have any items. I'm assuming everyone else can prove themselves though? Who got Elbereth's item? Oh, also, villagers who have died, please help us out by putting the Shade kill on one of the players who can't account for their Action please. This is a very helpful mechanic for the plan as it is. Edited June 17, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
Master Elodin Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Dangit! I forgot to pass my item. I understand if you want to kill me because of this, but I would like to apologize.
Sart he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Uhh...Ripple you forgot my vote on Bard. Anyway, I don't suspect either Zas or Mckeedee. Zas broke the tie on a traitor minutes before the cycle ended. It's unlikely a traitor would do that. Mckeedee started the game with a knife. I highly doubt the GM would give the traitors one, since the town has no scanners. There's the possibility that he got it cycle one, but that would be incredibly lucky. As far as I'm concerned, they're basically cleared. I need to reread the thread, but I'll put my vote back on Bard. It just makes too much sense for him to be evil.
Master Elodin Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Also, I got another item from Elbs corpse. I feel like a vulture.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 I was unable to pass my item, because I was rather suddenly needed to drive my grandparents to the airport 7 hours ago. I just got home. (Portland traffic sucks) So i didn't send in orders. I received Silver Dust from Mailliw. RIPPLE: Can Eliminators send in orders for other Eliminators?
Sart he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 The way I see it there are four groups of players. Aman killers: Sart: I tied up the vote. It's not the best alibi, but I know I'm innocent. Zas: He broke the tie 3 minutes after me. I doubt he's evil. Joe: Put the first vote down as a poke vote. Could be bad but I doubt it. Knife wielders: Lopen: He knifed Cloud jumper. Enough said. Mckeedee: He gave Lopen the knife. Would a traitor do that? Busy with the long game: Elodin: busy with PMs. Mailliw: devoting his time to that game instead. Cloud: hasn't done much. She's my other suspect for Traitor. Bard: He's been active this game, but he fits my profile of a traitor. We have 9 players left. I don't suspect the first 5 because they helped to kill traitors. The other four are suspicious. I could be wrong, but this is the best lead we have. 2
Zas678 he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 I still don't have an item, so I can't account for my action. If you guys want this to change, send me an item and I can start being in the cycle. I don't think that Mckeedee giving Lopen the knife is necessarily a sign that he's not a Traitor. It's possible to have Traitors that started with or passed knives just to appear innocent. I'm probably going to edit this post in a second to put some larger analysis in it.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) We do need to give the itemless players items at some point, or hope that cloudjumper was the only eliminator out of the circle. Edited June 17, 2016 by The Only Joe I misspelled cloudjumper's name in a super offensive way. sorry.
Zas678 he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Lopen, I know you're suspicious of me because of Aman's death, and then about being suspicious of crewmembers since, but really, I was picking one of two names, and I figured that Sart tying up the vote wasn't a very eliminator move, so Sart's vote was likely to be a good a choice that I could make. And I'm sorry that I haven't been able to pass items to claim actions. Okay. After rereading the thread, this is what I've come up with: The Eliminators seem to be targeting people with items. They seem to be hoping that by killing them, they'll be able to get a new item, and that could possibly be a knife to get them another kill. They really want a second kill (or third) since they likely only have 2 people left on their team. We really don't want them to have two kills, so here's what I'm proposing. There are a few people more now that have an item, due to item redistribution. We also have a few people that have 2 items. There'll still be someone stuck outside of the circle, but there's not really anything we can do about it, unless someone wants to reveal an extra item. Here's the list that I've made of current itemage: Elodin-2 Joe-2 Mail-1 Winter-1 Lopen-1 Sart-0 Mckee-1 Bard-0 Zas-0 So, my plan is that everyone give "up" on the chain. Elodin to me, Lopen to Winter, Winter to Mail, etc. However, we'll treat Joe different. Joe, instead of giving to Elodin, give to Bard instead. And Mail, rather than giving to Joe, give to Sart instead. That way, everyone should start with an item next round. Anyone who doesn't, we can look at those who either currently don't have an item, or to those who "forgot" last minute. There's a chance we end up with the Eliminators giving to each other, but that won't work out for long, if someone at the end of the chain ends up getting shortchanged. And Shades, my vote would be to go for one of the people who currently doesn't have an item. They're the ones who won't be prevented from striking this round. Please post here if you plan to do it, or if you think we should do something different. Or if my item count is off. If it is, we'll figure something else out. 1
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 I gave my item to Bard. So I don't have an item anymore, since no one passed to me(I don't think anyone was supposed to though). Okay, if we believe Joe and Elodin about forgetting to pass their items(which I do. I just read them both as being honest. Joe because of the real life mention and Elodin because his apology sounds genuine.), then since Mailliw and me passed items(Joe confirmed Mailliw's pass and I'm waiting on Bard to confirm my pass) we can narrow down who made the eliminator kill down to 4 players: Sart, Bard, Mckeedee, and Zas. I have a village read on Sart and Bard and an eliminator read on both Zas and Mckeedee. So I suggest we lynch one of those two and the village Shades target one of those four as well. Only problem with suggesting that is that if I'm wrong about both of the eliminators being in that group, the kill could still be made. But hopefully most players can explain their Actions. So, I'm not positive about this, but Zas. I'm willing to lynch him or Mckeedee, and I'm not sure who I suspect more at this point. Zas, I realize you can't explain your Action and plans are nice, but you didn't even try to narrow down who made the kill just now, which is what the plan is for. That just adds to my suspicion of you. 1
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Zas, you just rocketed straight down to eliminator status for me. Your item plan is nice, in that it makes sure more players have items, leaving only one player without an item. Yourself. Thus, you can make the eliminator kill today and tomorrow. I would rather you get an item than either Bard or Sart, since you deliberately ignored the fact you were itemless. EDIT: See two posts below. EDIT2: Found the character limit. Edited June 17, 2016 by The Only Joe Retracting my vote on Zas, because this entire post is based on a false premise. Bad Joe, be more careful when you read. is there a character limit for the edit box? It doesn't look like there is. Now I want to put the entire post into an edit just to mes
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Ignore that. Zas you're back to soft cleared, because your plan made sure that everyone gets items. Thank you Elodin.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 How does that make him soft cleared??? Obviously, if there's enough items, he's gonna make a plan so that each player gets an item, regardless of alingment, since anything else would be seen as suspicious. However, since passing items happens after kills(I believe), all the eliminators have to do is kill someone with an item(or 2) and it allows for an player or two with no items. And all of this is moot if we make it so that everyone has an item, because we still have to actually kill an eliminator, so we have to lynch someone for something. It's not like we're winning the game by giving everyone an item. Also, Mailliw and me don't have items I don't think, so I'm not sure how that factors into the plan. That means that 2 players won't have items even if everyone was able to pass their items and no eliminator made a kill I think. Although I'm not exactly sure about that. I'm kinda just leaving the item passing to you guys. I suggest that everyone post who they're passing their item to and when they send in their order. This way, no forgetfulness will occur. Send in your Action early and post right after you do so! People, we need to discuss the lynch! Last Cycle's lynch was pitiful. There's only 9 players left right now. There can't be that many suspects at this point. Zas is my top suspect, with Mckeedee close behind. Then, I think I'd say Mailliw, Joe, Elodin, winter(she can't have made the previous kill at least, so I don't think we should lynch her), Bard, and Sart. I'm the 9th player. So, who out of the 8 players that aren't you do you suspect most? I want every single player to answer this. Please.
Young Bard he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, TheMightyLopen said: So, who out of the 8 players that aren't you do you suspect most? I want every single player to answer this. Please. In order of trusting least to most: Mek, Conq, Elodin, Winter, Sart/Joe (both neutral), Maill, Lopen 1
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 To be clear Lopen, his plan doesn't soft clear him. It was his plan not including himslef that made me suspect him. I had him soft cleared because of Aman until he posted it. Now that my misunderstanding with his plan is clearedpup, he's back to being soft cleared. I would lynch mckeedee, elodin, winter or mailliw. I would abstain on sart, zas or bard. I would defend lopen. I am giving my intoxicant to bard. I have sent in orders to do so. Also, since we now have items equal to the amount of players, I think we should encourage knife use. Everyone seems to auspext the same people, and distrust the same people, so if a player knifes a generally trusted player, they'll be obviously eliminator. Or at least, more suspicious. So villagers and eliminators can really only risk stabbing the players who are widely untrusted or inactive. If I am given a knife from now on, I will use it at my discretion.
RippleGylf she/her Posted June 17, 2016 Author Posted June 17, 2016 9 hours ago, The Only Joe said: I was unable to pass my item, because I was rather suddenly needed to drive my grandparents to the airport 7 hours ago. I just got home. (Portland traffic sucks) So i didn't send in orders. I received Silver Dust from Mailliw. RIPPLE: Can Eliminators send in orders for other Eliminators? No, they cannot.
Mckeedee123 he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 13 hours ago, TheMightyLopen said: Okay, seriously, now I'm even more suspicious of both Mckeedee and Zas. Everyone, please reveal what Action you took. I passed my item to Bard. I did not receive any items. Edit: Everyone was online at a good enough time to send in the Mutineer kill except Winter. She was never online for the past Cycle. So her and I are cleared of having made the kill. Can anyone else prove themselves? Mckeedee conveniently can't, seeing as Elbereth was killed. So I believe either Mckeedee is being framed or he's a Mutineer. Sart, Bard and Zas can't prove themselves either, since they didn't have any items. I'm assuming everyone else can prove themselves though? Who got Elbereth's item? Oh, also, villagers who have died, please help us out by putting the Shade kill on one of the players who can't account for their Action please. This is a very helpful mechanic for the plan as it is. Well, between me, Bard, Sart, and Zas, I'd take Bard. Sart and Zas voted for Aman, which is a decent reason not to lynch them. In addition, Sart's been defending me this round, and I don't know about Zas, but come to think of it, Bard's been very publicly gunning for me all game. Now that there's a decent reason to suspect me, he's being passive-aggressive about it, just putting me in a list and possibly hoping a bandwagon starts. (Obviously, this analysis is contingent upon my being innocent, speaking of which, who am I passing to this round?)
Young Bard he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mckeedee123 said: Well, between me, Bard, Sart, and Zas, I'd take Bard. Sart and Zas voted for Aman, which is a decent reason not to lynch them. In addition, Sart's been defending me this round, and I don't know about Zas, but come to think of it, Bard's been very publicly gunning for me all game. Now that there's a decent reason to suspect me, he's being passive-aggressive about it, just putting me in a list and possibly hoping a bandwagon starts. (Obviously, this analysis is contingent upon my being innocent, speaking of which, who am I passing to this round?) One, that's a very incomplete list. Considering that Conq and Elodin, 2 people you skipped, are two of my biggest suspicions besides you. I voiced my suspicions for you through most of the game, but I did so because you were one of the only people who I actually had solid evidence to point to to vote for. In addition, I only actually voted for you for... C2, I think, because after that I saw it wasn't going to happen. Similar story with Conq by now. It doesn't mean I trust you though. If a lynch train forms on you, I will vote on you, but I don't intend on starting that train anymore unless something else comes up. There hasn't been much talk from @Master Elodin at all. He seems to be borderline active, and I'd like to hear more from him, at the very least. In addition, some of the posts he made weren't game-relevant (talking about Lopen and his profile pics - possibly a way to appear active without giving anything away), and one of the few comments he did make cast suspicion on some people for no real reason (I'm talking about the 'this many poke-votes makes one of you an eliminator' comment), and he failed to explain his reasoning later on when he was asked about it. He also failed to pass yesterday for no reason other than forgetting. Edited June 17, 2016 by The Young Bard Summoned Elodin. One of the best things about the new update. :)
Master Elodin Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Young Bard said: One, that's a very incomplete list. Considering that Conq and Elodin, 2 people you skipped, are two of my biggest suspicions besides you. I voiced my suspicions for you through most of the game, but I did so because you were one of the only people who I actually had solid evidence to point to to vote for. In addition, I only actually voted for you for... C2, I think, because after that I saw it wasn't going to happen. Similar story with Conq by now. It doesn't mean I trust you though. If a lynch train forms on you, I will vote on you, but I don't intend on starting that train anymore unless something else comes up. There hasn't been much talk from @Master Elodin at all. He seems to be borderline active, and I'd like to hear more from him, at the very least. In addition, some of the posts he made weren't game-relevant (talking about Lopen and his profile pics - possibly a way to appear active without giving anything away), and one of the few comments he did make cast suspicion on some people for no real reason (I'm talking about the 'this many poke-votes makes one of you an eliminator' comment), and he failed to explain his reasoning later on when he was asked about it. He also failed to pass yesterday for no reason other than forgetting. Bard, I read this thread regularly already. The notification thing is just obnoxious. That comment which you still can't let go of was made at the start of the game, and I was giving my opinion on early-game poke votes. As for the rest, I have to say that I don't really find this game at all interesting because of you guys. Honestly, nearly all of everyone's suspicions are most likely incorrect ones as they are based off of meaningless fluff. Furthermore, nearly all of the discussion in this game has been about an item passing plan that clearly abuses the rules. I don't know if this game is your idea of fun, but it's not mine. P.S. This is not directed at Ripple, who made a great and interesting concept. EDIT: Ok, I may have come across as annoyed. That's intentional. Edited June 17, 2016 by Master Elodin 2
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