Alfa he/him Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 By this logic, all the Heralds that broke the Oathpact are villains. But I do agree that Darkness is very twisted. Who know? Probably he even resurrects all the protodiants he kills afterwards. I know, it's not likely, but it's possible.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 This may be because the last cosmere book I have read was SH, but I am definitely going to have to say ruin. The sheer scale and design of what ruin did made for an incredible antagonist, albeit one who was not morally complicated (well, not very anyway, but we do know that once upon a time Ati was actually a very decent person). 1
StormyQueen she/her Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 I actually found The Lord Ruler to be quite interesting, particularly how we were introduced to him, first as a mindless, evil dictator God, but how as I read through the books, he was given depth and motive for his actions, and how he wasn't all evil, despite what we thought at the start. Hate to be cliche, but I do also love Hrathen, and his development throughout the books, how he went from villain to antagonist to something else I don't quite know the name of.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 20 hours ago, CalypsoDreaming said: I actually found The Lord Ruler to be quite interesting, particularly how we were introduced to him, first as a mindless, evil dictator God, but how as I read through the books, he was given depth and motive for his actions, and how he wasn't all evil, despite what we thought at the start. Hate to be cliche, but I do also love Hrathen, and his development throughout the books, how he went from villain to antagonist to something else I don't quite know the name of. Many of these villains are actually just good men who do bad things. I've compiled a list of the villains I know and psychologically analysed them . None of these people can be considered Evil Incarnates, besides Odium, who IS Evil, not just an Incarnate. An Antagonist can be anything btw, anything that hinders the protagonist's journey, basically just an obstacle on the road to "greatness" Gonna start with Alcatraz The Librarians- A power-hungry organisation with cliched intentions to rule the world. I guess one could see them as diabolical in the way that they control information and try to keep the world as "primitive" as possible, hindering technological "evolution", but all in all, I reckon they are pretty stupid villains. Elantris Hrathen- apparently one of the most loved antagonists by a quick skim I did of this thread. He is quite a good person actually, sort of in the same way that wade wilson is a good person at heart. He could be seen as a blind follower, he is devout to Jaddeth and in turn the Wyrm, but when he realises what his actions have caused and that technically the Wyrm caused it, he finally turns against the Wyrm due to his sense of justice. As he says, 'His problem is not with Jaddeth, but with teh Wyrm', He sees himself as a saviour, which is quite the recurring motif in Sanderson's works which i find a tad bit repetitive. When he realised how corrupt his leaders and Dilaf were he rebelled and tried to cause a revolution. Iodon- Another man who is easily corrupted by power. He ignores what he does, doing them simply because he can and sees others as below him. Telrii- An arrogant, wannabee bastard Dilaf- Quite the complex character. I reckon he is someone blinded by his faith as well, thinking that Jaddeth is the only one and that his believers are supreme, and that his opposers must be destroyed, alot like ISIS, but in one man . Whereas Hrathern is a cold, calculative character, Dilaf, is his cruel, fanaticist behaviour is in stark contrast. He's like Hitler, a Nazi Jaddeth supporter Wyrn, Wulfden the fourth- Primarily the Big Bad of Elantris. He is the Evil Overlord, manipulating everyone to his own ends. Alot like Baron Zemo from Civil War. He believes he has ultimate authority and that those who oppose him are infact the evil ones. I've just realised how much time I've used just merely doing Elantris and Alcatraz, I think I will do the others later I should be doing homework 2
Alfa he/him Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Well, pretty few villains see themselves as villains...
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted June 20, 2016 Author Posted June 20, 2016 I also have to say that Nightwielder gets a point for coolness factor. 2
WayneSpren he/him Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Axies the Survivor said: I also have to say that Nightwielder gets a point for coolness factor. Nightwielder is (aside from Firefight) my absolute favorite Epic. I wish he had more screen time. 2
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 7 hours ago, WayneSpren said: Nightwielder is (aside from Firefight) my absolute favorite Epic. I wish he had more screen time. I love how you say screentime 1
WayneSpren he/him Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said: I love how you say screentime Well, I can't just say pagetime. That doesn't sound as cool.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 4 hours ago, WayneSpren said: Well, I can't just say pagetime. That doesn't sound as cool. tru tru 1
WayneSpren he/him Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 On 4/28/2016 at 5:39 PM, Master Elodin said: On 4/28/2016 at 4:32 PM, Chasmfiend said: Clarification: By 'Villian', do you mean a criminal or an antagonist? Wayne does not count or all of us would have already said it. THIS IS SO, SO TRUE. On 5/15/2016 at 11:53 AM, lookingglass said: By this logic, all the Heralds that broke the Oathpact are villains. But I do agree that Darkness is very twisted. We see Darkness in not one but two interludes in WoR, plus at the end, and he really intrigued me. He's probably my favorite SA villain next to Amaram.
Evil_Reptile Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 I'd have to go with either Hrathen or Amaram. Hrathen because he is actually my favourite character from Elantris. Amaram because I love to hate him.
CarolaDavar she/her Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Sadeas. I hate him to death. But, yet, he was crafted that way. Brandon did a great job creating a character everyone loves to hate.
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