Nashan’Elin he/him Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 So I made a theory about the cause of the cause of the Recreance, here: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/53011-bavadin-breaker-of-the-oathpact-and-cause-of-the-recreance/ At the Denver signing, I asked Brandon this: (paraphrased) ME: Could Honor and Autonomy be considered opposites, like, Autonomy freeing from Honor's oaths? BRANDON: Yes, you could definitely think of it that way. Those two are more likely to be opposed than some others. While this doesn't confirm my theory, it is noteworthy that these two oppose each other. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelek's Breath he/him Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Have an upvote for this. Make sure you post this in the Denver signing thread so the moderators can include this in the WOB archives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 On the other hand, he didn't say they were the most opposite to each other. Only that there are those who would be less opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylveris he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 On the other hand, he didn't say they were the most opposite to each other. Only that there are those who would be less opposite. He also said before that not all shards have complete opposites, so it might be the closest they have for an opposing shards (for Honor at least, for Autonomy there is possibly Dominion which sound like an even better fitting opposing shard). (Also, in my opinion, even Preservation and Ruin, which are the closest shards we know of to be opposites to each other aren't a perfect match (a duel shard of Ruin and Cultivation would be the best opposition to Preservation)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I would also say that Odium and Honor seem to be opposed, too. Honor=binding things together/Odium=breaking things apart. But the more I think about Shards, the more I like that not all of them have perfect opposites. It really makes for more conflict opportunities as he expands things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I don't know if Odium is about breaking things apart, at least not natively. The way I see it, hate is a connecting emotion - you can't hate (in) the void, you need a subject to hate, and that forms a connection. It's not a good connection, but it is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 So basically, in the end Honor and Odium are actually both related to binding people . . . one of the constructive sort and one of the negative sort. Cultivation is, on the other hand, singled out as relating more to "change", where Ruin is the negative and Preservation is the complete absence of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's a restrictive - binding, if you will - categorization of these Shards, but not an invalid one, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Haven't we gotten WoB that Odium's ability to splinter Shards (breaking them apart) is related to his Intent, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 It's a restrictive - binding, if you will - categorization of these Shards, but not an invalid one, I think. Intents are much more varied in nature, I'd agree, but I just intended to categorize them from one perspective. There are plenty of other ways. Same with grouping types of people really. It's never truly accurate, just there to analyze a particular characteristic. You have to read all classifications to get a good picture of a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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