Oversleep Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 If the Old Kingdom is Investiture, it'd be something along the lines of two Shards into 9 Slivers (the Great Charters, Mogget, and Orannis). I'm assuming two shards, because much like Investiture on Scadrial, we have Charter Magic, Necromancy, and Free Magic, and yes, I believe there is in fact a difference. For one thing, Free Magic is "corrupted" Charter Magic, while Necromancy uses bells - musical tones. No, IIRC Charter was Free Magic somehow restricted by symbols... And there was some difference between Free Magic and Necromancy, but they tended to intermingle. And Free Magic could corrupt Charter... confusing. The Charter and Free Magic are similar to Sel - Free Magic would be channeling Dor freely and Charter would be using symbols like in AonDor, DakHor, ChayShan and Forgery.
Landis963 he/him Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 No, IIRC Charter was Free Magic somehow restricted by symbols... And there was some difference between Free Magic and Necromancy, but they tended to intermingle. And Free Magic could corrupt Charter... confusing. The Charter and Free Magic are similar to Sel - Free Magic would be channeling Dor freely and Charter would be using symbols like in AonDor, DakHor, ChayShan and Forgery. Perhaps. My model does include a situation very similar to the creation of the Dor, only I have the 9 Bright Shiners picking up the power after all's said and done.
KaIadin he/him Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Mogget was one of these beings, he was the Eighth (the first Seven Invested their power and it can be channeled through the bells, the Ninth is the Orannis). So what, we've got Nine Shards on one planet? And Seven of them share the same magic system (the Free Magic and necromancy)? What about Codex then? There were also something about Seven starting the bloodlines of people, it was about Great Codesex or something. Just saying, might wanna put a few spoiler tags on there. Part of Abhosren was spoiled for me cause I accidentally continued in Abhorsen instead of continuing reading the last few chapters of Lirael. No, IIRC Charter was Free Magic somehow restricted by symbols... And there was some difference between Free Magic and Necromancy, but they tended to intermingle. And Free Magic could corrupt Charter... confusing. I thought Free Magic was powerful but unpredictable power which was contained by the Seven by creating the Charter. Edited January 10, 2016 by ClockWork PoleAxe
WeiryWriter he/him Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I would think that the Shard of FMA:B is "Truth".
KaIadin he/him Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I would think that the Shard of FMA:B is "Truth". Wouldn't the shard actually be called "Ed...ward"? 1
Eagle of the Forest Path he/him Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Wouldn't the shard actually be called "Ed...ward"? Ooh, creepy Nina flashback just now. That's fine, I don't need to sleep tonight.
Oversleep Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Wouldn't the shard actually be called "Ed...ward"? WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME?! *gets teary-eyed* FMA Shard is Exchange, probably.
Raykoda Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 What would be on the other side of the gate of truth then? the cognitive realm? would Truth be the shardholder?
The Invested Beard Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 I don't think anyone's pointed out Dune yet. But yeah. Totally cosmere.
sheep Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 If the Old Kingdom is Investiture, it'd be something along the lines of two Shards into 9 Slivers (the Great Charters, Mogget, and Orannis). I'm assuming two shards, because much like Investiture on Scadrial, we have Charter Magic, Necromancy, and Free Magic, and yes, I believe there is in fact a difference. For one thing, Free Magic is "corrupted" Charter Magic, while Necromancy uses bells - musical tones. EDIT: Sorry about de spoilerz. I'd probably say that Orannis is at least a Shard by itself. It caused the equivalent of zombie apocalypse and Desolation rolled into one, and did it to multiple planets before it got to a planet and found some resistance in the Seven. I'm unsure how many the shards the Seven would be, as they invested into the Great Stones, the three bloodlines, and the Wall as well as the Charter. They all have distinct personalities that would have trouble fitting under one intent. You can use music to control Charter Magic and Necromancy, since Sam had pipes and you had to whistle to steer a Paperwing. The difference is that you can't get baptised in Free Magic as a baby and can't access it on whenever you want to. In the Chlorr of the Mask prequel it was revealed that the way people got access to Free Magic was by binding Free Magic creatures. Free Magic isn't evil, I would say, but just very powerful and unrestrained with alien mentalities, and used by bad people to do bad things. Just like Voidbringers. 1
Arash.F he/him Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Anyone here has played Mass Effect?! Milky Way is cosmere there, and the Catalyst can be Adonalsium itself maybe!
Landis963 he/him Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Anyone here has played Mass Effect?! Milky Way is cosmere there, and the Catalyst can be Adonalsium itself maybe! Sadly, despite the striking resemblance eezo has to Investiture, the Milky Way contains Earth, and Earth is not cosmere.
Pinnacle-Ferring he/him Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) I had an interesting idea. Avatar the Last Airbender is cosmere. The Shard there is Balance and, unfortunately, was splintered by Odium. That's where the spirits come from. The spirit world is obviously the Spiritual Realm and can be entered by entering a certain mindset, similar to how Jasnah and Shallan enter Shadesmar (the Cognitive Realm). This also explains why we can find spirits of people in the spirit world as well (Iroh is a cognitive shadow like Kelsier!) Because bending is primarily Physical and Mental in nature, it is ineffective in the Spiritual Realm. Another way to enter the Spiritual Realm is to enter it physically through the spirit portals. I had a lot of trouble figuring out what they would correspond to. The best I could figure is that they're some sort of shardpools. I don't know much about them, personally. If someone else knows more about how they work, please feel free to give your own interpretation. The Avatar is an individual who has formed a Spiritual bond with one of the most powerful of Balance's splinters: Raava. The bond is so powerful that it trancends lifetimes and is passed on to his future incarnations. The opposite, yet equally powerful splinter is Vaatu, who tries to undermine the avatar at any chance he gets. Please tell me what you think and feel free to disagree or add different interpretations and perspectives. Edit- fixed grammar and spelling. Edited February 8, 2016 by Pinnacle-Ferring 3
natc Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 I'd say Cognitive Realm makes more sense, but otherwise it's legit.
Landis963 he/him Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Might Naruto be Cosmere? There'd have to be several Shards present from all the various types of jutsu (Unless it's like allomancy with its panoply of powers), but chakra bears a startling resemblance to Innate Investiture, much like Breath.
natc Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well by Naruto history "Shinju" would be the only being of notable power at the onset. And has been splintered, leaving his corpse and Shadow, the nine big pieces, and all the tiny bits bound to every human. It seems they learned to manipulate the chakra in them though, and shape it in specific forms to do certain things. I'd pin it as one of the more technical ones like AonDor. Research goes into that stuff.
Landis963 he/him Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well by Naruto history "Shinju" would be the only being of notable power at the onset. And has been splintered, leaving his corpse and Shadow, the nine big pieces, and all the tiny bits bound to every human. It seems they learned to manipulate the chakra in them though, and shape it in specific forms to do certain things. I'd pin it as one of the more technical ones like AonDor. Research goes into that stuff. Splintering generally leaves behind beings made of Investiture, e.g. the spren and the Seons/Skaze. The summons or beings like the Nine-Tailed Fox, perhaps?
natc Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Hence why I mentioned the nine big pieces. Tailed Beasts are pretty prominent and practically Stormfather-level . . . they come with their own abilities too, when bonded . . .
TheLerasNosed he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 It's on Earth, but Harry Potter is Cosmere. 1.) They use wands, (fabrials) in a particular motion (like drawing aons) to access an energy system (Dor-esque) and magic ensues 2.) Cognitive Shadows can/are forced to hang around if killed by the Killing Curse 3.) Like Mistborn, ability to access Investiture is hereditary and not everyone on the planet is able 4.) Love is a powerful force in HP, that can be the shard 5.) Harry is a worldhopper and is actually Demoux. Think about it. They both have a distinctive scar on their forehead 6.) Voldemort certainly has enough hate to be one of Odium's Unmade 7.) House elves are basically short Terrismen. Both are servants who have a different yet still powerful magic than those they serve 8.) Bogarts are just Kandra 9.) The Shardpool is located somewhere in the Forbidden Forrest and is guarded by the Centaurs 10.) And most importantly, Snape is Leras. Both have Prominent Noses 1
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 I had an interesting idea. Avatar the Last Airbender is cosmere. The Shard there is Balance and, unfortunately, was splintered by Odium. That's where the spirits come from. The spirit world is obviously the Spiritual Realm and can be entered by entering a certain mindset, similar to how Jasnah and Shallan enter Shadesmar (the Cognitive Realm). This also explains why we can find spirits of people in the spirit world as well (Iroh is a cognitive shadow like Kelsier!) Because bending is primarily Physical and Mental in nature, it is ineffective in the Spiritual Realm. Another way to enter the Spiritual Realm is to enter it physically through the spirit portals. I had a lot of trouble figuring out what they would correspond to. The best I could figure is that they're some sort of shardpools. I don't know much about them, personally. If someone else knows more about how they work, please feel free to give your own interpretation. The Avatar is an individual who has formed a Spiritual bond with one of the most powerful of Balance's splinters: Raava. The bond is so powerful that it trancends lifetimes and is passed on to his future incarnations. The opposite, yet equally powerful splinter is Vaatu, who tries to undermine the avatar at any chance he gets. Please tell me what you think and feel free to disagree or add different interpretations and perspectives. Edit- fixed grammar and spelling. SO Aang....is the "avatar" of Balance? Like how /spoiler/ Sazed is avatar to Harmony/spoiler/ 1
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) It's on Earth, but Harry Potter is Cosmere. 1.) They use wands, (fabrials) in a particular motion (like drawing aons) to access an energy system (Dor-esque) and magic ensues 2.) Cognitive Shadows can/are forced to hang around if killed by the Killing Curse 3.) Like Mistborn, ability to access Investiture is hereditary and not everyone on the planet is able 4.) Love is a powerful force in HP, that can be the shard 5.) Harry is a worldhopper and is actually Demoux. Think about it. They both have a distinctive scar on their forehead 6.) Voldemort certainly has enough hate to be one of Odium's Unmade 7.) House elves are basically short Terrismen. Both are servants who have a different yet still powerful magic than those they serve 8.) Bogarts are just Kandra 9.) The Shardpool is located somewhere in the Forbidden Forrest and is guarded by the Centaurs 10.) And most importantly, Snape is Leras. Both have Prominent Noses But Kandra have to consume the bones of what they are becoming and work around them. They don't do instant Transfiguration EDIT: SORRY DOUBLE POST Edited February 22, 2016 by Stormblessed Peasant
Pinnacle-Ferring he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) SO Aang....is the "avatar" of Balance? Like how /spoiler/ Sazed is avatar to Harmony/spoiler/ Not exactly. The shard on that world has been splintered by Odium into individual spirits (like how Honor was splintered into honorspren) and the avatar has a very strong bond with one of the more powerful splinters: Raava. I guess it would similar to the nahel bond but stronger and much more enduring. I mean it lasts through multiple incarnations!Any other ideas for this world? I'd love to discuss it! Edited February 22, 2016 by Pinnacle-Ferring
natc Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Hmm . . . what of the lion turtles that created elemental benders in the first place. They themselves bend their own element as well as pure investiture somehow. But Kandra have to consume the bones of what they are becoming and work around them. They don't do instant Transfiguration EDIT: SORRY DOUBLE POST SoS spoiler: TenSoon can create generic-buff-human-A in a few seconds provided a skeleton. Kandra also can't make or digest skeletons at all, they keep the bones. If it's just an approximation a sufficiently skill kandra can make the form without having digested the person. Edited February 22, 2016 by natc
Pinnacle-Ferring he/him Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Hmm . . . what of the lion turtles that created elemental benders in the first place. They themselves bend their own element as well as pure investiture somehow. Maybe they are heavily invested beings and can only exist and function because of that like greatshells (they have special spren that prevent them from being crushed under their own weight), only sentient and much more intelligent. They can not only use the magic system itself, they can also manipulate the raw power of investiture (energybending) and can rewrite peoples sDNA to become benders (spiritbending). Kind of like Hemalurgy, but much gentler and with less side-effects.
Landis963 he/him Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 What sort of Shard would that make sense for, though? Endowment? A hypothetical Shard of Legacy? Discipline?
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