Quiver Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) A non-serious thread, unless we stumble across the secrets of Brandons workm in which case, spoilers. So, we all heard people ask "Is Reckoners Cosmere", due to perceived similarities between magic systems, characters, whatever. What this is, is a thread for everyone to speculate on what else might be Cosmere. Books by other authors? Television shows? What non-Brandon works " obviously" take place in the Cosmere and why? Edited December 27, 2015 by Quiver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 It started way before the Cosmere but Full Metal Alchemist, FEELS like a Cosmere series in hindsight. Alchemy and the way it works and how it's shaped it's world, all of it. The villain is basically a version of the Lord Ruler. It seriously feels like it would be pointless to have a Cosmere animated series because that's basically what FMA is. If Brandon just said it was part of the Cosmere it would fit right in, hell I already know what the Shard's name would be. "Equivalency" 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Star Wars. Star Wars is "obviously" Cosmere because the Force power set is very Shard-esque. I suspect it has something to do with a hypothetical shard of Valor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Star Wars seems to have more of a soft magic system to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Godwin's Law is Cosmere. It's mathematical and precise. Although only Hitler would admit it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unodus Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Magnets are definitely cosmere. Obviously magnetic fields are some form of investiture on Earth (loyalty? duality?) Think about how much we rely on magnets (in terms of generating electricity, magnetic tape, compasses. etc), and consider the distinct lack of any magnets anywhere else in the cosmere. Each civilization is defined by their magic system, yet take their effects almost for granted- in comparison magnets seem just as inexplicable, yet completely understood. While perhaps dull in comparison, our magic system makes our society more advanced than any we've seen in the cosmere. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 I feel like Cosmere and MCU would mesh well....but maybe that's just because I want it to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Kingkiller Chronicles. Sympathy fits really well with the rest of the magic systems and Naming obviously lets the Namer take control of Spiritual Aspect of a thing by controlling it through Cognitive, with the effect taking place in Physical.Sympathy also requires hardcore Cognitive manipulation, so much that it links the objects Physically. Alef would be the Shard who Named everything, and I believe that his angels (with Tehlu as the first of them) were given a Splinter of it (like Returned, but with much more power). Can't figure out the War of Creation and Chandrians, but it's because we don't know much about them.P.S. Spike Kvothe or Elxa Dal with double Brass (and probably double zinc or Blessing of Presence to be able to create more links) and watch them destroy all of the Voidbringers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Most of L.E. Modesitt's fantasy series (Recluse, Imager, Corean, maybe Soprano Sorceress) could easily fit into the cosmere. In at least the first three, there's strong implications for extra terrestrials, especially Recluse and Corean that basically state it out right. The magic systems are also semi-hard to hard, which would fit right in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 It started way before the Cosmere but Full Metal Alchemist, FEELS like a Cosmere series in hindsight. Alchemy and the way it works and how it's shaped it's world, all of it. The villain is basically a version of the Lord Ruler. It seriously feels like it would be pointless to have a Cosmere animated series because that's basically what FMA is. If Brandon just said it was part of the Cosmere it would fit right in, hell I already know what the Shard's name would be. "Equivalency" Human souls make for such great power sources in both too, huh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 David Farlands Runelord series could be cosmere. I'd forgotten about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragrin Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 The Fuller's Apprentice and sequels are the AU version of what would happen if someone unaffiliated picked up Cultivation, Devotion, and possibly Creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Doctor who! Adonalsium was broken timelord technology that wandered off and started creating planets and magics. Hoid is the Doctor, trying to put it back together, only, he doesn't have his Tardis, and has to collect magics to jump around in primitive space. Odium eventually creates the Daleks, Splinters of Hate. There's so much that just fits so perfectly! Marvel Universe could work too, but it's magic is too soft. I'm sure it could be explained to an extent though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Superhero magic is very hard, it's the worldbuilding that's soft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGen Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Dishonored is so Cosmere. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Stormgate, on 27 Dec 2015 - 01:02 AM, said: Star Wars seems to have more of a soft magic system to me. Certainly it does, but the light-side/dark-side dichotomy has an uncanny resemblance (to my mind) to the behavior checks of the Nahel Bond. Maybe if the Force reacted better to empirical testing? ThirdGen, on 27 Dec 2015 - 6:05 PM, said: Dishonored is so Cosmere. Oh my, I didn't notice the resemblance before, but it totally is. I wonder what the Outsider's Intent would be. Edited December 28, 2015 by Landis963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Voodoo relys on using metal pins to grant the doll's owner blessings. Earth is Cosmere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unodus Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 If earth is cosmere, does that mean that most of our religions are based on shard interactions? Can we get confirmation on whether Jesus is a Worldhopper? :3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) I know this was meant to be a non-serious thread, but being the obsessed addict that I am, I can't help taking the Cosmere seriously. So I've decided to help you guys is determining whether or not a certain story could fit the Cosmere. Things that make it impossible for a story to fit the Cosmere: It is set on Earth (sorry, @Unodus). From Brandon: "I just don't want Earth in the Cosmere at all, even a bizarre sort of version of Earth." It is not set in a dwarf galaxy. The Cosmere stories are set in a star cluster within a dwarf galaxy. I guess it's possible to imagine that a story is set outside of the Cosmere dwarf galaxy but within the same universe, but that's technically no longer Cosmere. It involves physically traveling to the past. That is not allowed in the Cosmere. But as you all know, experiencing visions of the past is allowed. Things that make a story fit the Cosmere less: It involves alternate dimensions that number more than two. In the Cosmere, the pysical world exists side by side with two other worlds: the Cognitive Realm and the Spiritual Realm, the world of ideas/thoughts and the world of ideals/souls. Having many alternate dimensions, especially if they don't fit the "world of thoughts" and "world of souls" concepts, makes it very hard to fit a story in the Cosmere. One possible way of fixing this is if the other dimensions might actually be other planets, but that would be difficult to justify if the dimensions are very similar to each other. It mentions any specific location that exists in our universe. This veers close enough to "Earth is Cosmere" territory to be uncomfortable (at least for me). I think it's easier to imagine something to be Cosmere if there is absolutely no evidence of the possibility for Earth (or space-faring Earthlings) to be involved. Things that make it easier for a story to fit the Cosmere: Intent is important in its magic system/s. The magic system/s are linked thematically to a certain concept, making it easier to imagine that a Shard of Adonalsium is involved. Religion is involved in the story. This would at least fit the theme of most Cosmere stories so far, and could be used to think of possible Shards. I've just finished The Black Prism by Brent Weeks and from what I've seen so far the Lightbringer series seems to fit the Cosmere. I'll read the rest of the series before commenting further. Edited December 28, 2015 by skaa 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Well, I support all that you have written, and in the interest of an entertaining thread, take it with a pinch of copper. Earth is Cosmere. Perhaps the reason he doesn't wan a version of Earth to be Cosmere is because it already is. Edited December 28, 2015 by Stormgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ookla the Absent Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Star Wars always seemed like crossing mistborn with shardblades to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Seriously, the only difference between Shardblades and lightsabers is that lightsabers are shorter, dead, electronic, and handmade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ookla the Absent Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 And don't look as cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookingglass Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 The Old Kingdom series is definitely Cosmere. Death has the feel of the Cognitive Realm and the stars after the 9th Gate could be the Spiritual Realm. Plus chaining Orannis and limiting his power is like what Preservation did to Ruin. The magic systems fit nicely in with the other worlds as well. Seriously, if Garth Nix hadn't written those books years before Brandon I would have sworn he was being influenced by him but maybe it was the other way around! Hey, maybe that's why in Alcatraz vs the Scrivener's Bones he tries to through the scent off him and says : "If you happen to fall into that last category, you should know that my name isn’t really Alcatraz Smedry, nor is it Brandon Sanderson. My name is really Garth Nix, and you can find me in Australia. Oh, and I insulted your mother once. What’re you going to do about it, huh?" Possibly the best line I've ever read in a book ever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I just figured out the Outsider's Intent (from Dishonored). He's the Curiosity Shard. He gives Splinters to those whose actions he can't predict, and accessing his power by use of whale bone instead of direct Splinter causes all sorts of interesting effects. The future sight is a bit of an outlier in this regard (foresight and curiosity don't often go hand-in-hand), but most of the rest of it fits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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