Pet Peeves

[Quiver he/him]

22 hours ago, Kaymyth said:

Heh. Oh, the generation gap; cell phones became a thing when I was in college. My first mobile was this crazy blocky thing that you could've used to bludgeon a zombie. Internet wasn't even within its capability.

So your pet peeve is that modern phones aren't so good at zombie killin'?

Okay, one of my pet peeves; not being able to sleep. It happens far too often.

[Kaymyth she/her]

Just now, Quiver said:

So your pet peeve is that modern phones aren't so good at zombie killin'?

Okay, one of my pet peeves; not being able to sleep. It happens far too often.

Everything should have an alternative zombie killing design function.  I'm just sayin'.

Yeah, lack of sleep sucks big-time.

[Eccentric Hero he/him]

22 hours ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

Back in my day, we had the internet, but if you accidentally pressed the internet button on your phone, you'd have a momentary panic attack while frantically hitting END 50 times so your parents wouldn't have to pay for such a luxury.  

Funny that, although I live in 21st century US, I have the same problem. My dad doesn't want me to have internet access from phone so I have a cheap phone, and although the family plan is supposed to have unlimited data, he figured some way to exclude my phone or something like that. So, I once accidentally opened the "Browser," and learned to never do it again. So yes, I go through the exact same struggle, every time I accidentally open Browser.

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[Oversleep]

Mosquitos. I could sit by my desk all night and hear none. As soon as I crawl into bed I start hearing one flying around. Making rounds, rounds, rounds, sometimes closer, sometimes further, sometimes getting closer and closer and closer like it was to fly into me ear and then it goes away and keeps flying rounds, rounds...

It drives me insane.

I cannot ignore it. I cannot find it. I cannot kill it. I. Cannot. Sleep.

They should all be dead that time of the year.

[Delightful]

17 hours ago, bleeder said:

I feel like such a young child now.

Now I feel old and I'm only a handful of years older than you! 

[Djarskublar he/him]

Pet peeve (not really): realizing I actually just read this whole thread. All 51 pages.

Real pet peeves: people adding y sounds to words with the 'kin' syllable. For example napkin or pumpkin. It's like the synonym for family not kyin...

Oh and @TwiLyghtSansSparkles, you are not alone. Twimom is Djardad. "Those liberals are so evil" "black people were cursed by God" paraphrase: 'the forms of entertainment you enjoy are worthless. I don't even know what they are yet since I haven't given you a chance to say.' Or the worst one of all 'give me that thing.' What thing? Description please. Then you get yelled at for being stupid. Go die pig ******

On a less... Pure hateful rage inducing 'if they end up dead, look at me first as a suspect' note... Reading this thread for the first time and wanting so desperately to comment on past stuff, but not wanting to necro the conversation.

People making value judgements based on their stereotypes about media I enjoy, like anime or metal music (or even fantasy...). For the last time, people, not all anime is over-the-top targeted-at-8yr-olds shonen. And metal is actually the closest genre to classical music in composition out of modern styles. It is not screamo and it is not satanic. Those things are components you can add to any music, and it is just stereotyped as a metal/punk thing.

I don't like country music. I think it is basically people just making a poor rendition of yodelling about their tractors and exes. I still listened to several hours of it on the way to a scout camp before I made that judgement. I will listen to anything once, and probably more than once, before I make a judgement.

If you are one of those who doesn't believe metal has any redeeming qualities, listen to Call of Ktulu by Metallica. It's instrumental, so even if you don't like their vocals (which I can understand), you can still hear a great song. It isn't the pop ABA form I'm so generally tired of. It's, IIRC, more of an ABCAB form. It also isn't in your face loud. It is based off the Cthulhu mythos, so it is somewhat creepy, but wow. Well written. You just don't see as many sophisticated or diverse culture references is more mainstream genres like country, electronic, or true pop.

Or try Nightwish. They are a lovely Finnish band in the Symphonic Metal subgenre. They have gone through a few female leads that are actually pretty decent. They have an orchestra and a choir in the background on a lot of their tracks. It makes for a really layered, interesting sound. Also, one of the core members plays Uillean pipes (spelling unsure). Try Élan if that sounds even slightly interesting. It's not a heavy sound, for the most part.

If you don't mind trying a heavier sound, try Dragonforce. With clean vocals, it is something easier to like, and the players are RIDICULOUSLY good. Playing for 7 minutes at at least 200 bpm with nary a quarter note in sight takes serious technical skill and stamina. It also isn't 'let's play some really fast noise' punk music. It is well composed.

On a side note, if you want to be truly impressed, check out the Rock Band/Guitar Hero expert version of any song, and then compare it to the expert version of Dragonforce's 'Through the fire and the flames.' And then remember that playing a real guitar is harder. Wow.

Off my music soap box now... That I realize basically just became a plug for some bands I like... Oops...

I peeve out when people present only two options with political issues. For example, here in the US, we have a problem with lots of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other countries, but the focus is on Mexicans. It is presented that we either keep them out somehow, or give them all amnesty. No. There are other options. An example that I don't actually recommend, but present for humor value is that we annex Mexico and have done with it. Then we have a smaller border to guard.

Another is people misconstruing the guns rights issue. We have the right to bear arms so we can shoot back if the government tries something and we don't like it. It isn't about crime or mental health. Those matter, but if I want to be able to shoot down a government helicopter with a SAM, I should be able to do so. That probably comes across as extremely redneck, but my basis is sound. The founding fathers people love so much to pull the card for on various issues owned military grade weaponry (it was not as big a difference then, but still). Some private citizens owned warships and artillery for Pete's sake! I will semi gloss over the fact that the warships were used to escort their merchant fleets. That is beside the point. They could own such things. Now we complain about how much ammo a low caliber weapon can have in one magazine...

I think I'm done now. That was a bit longer than initially intended. Hopefully at least one of you listens to a song or two and appreciates It.

[Andarist he/him]

8 minutes ago, Djarskublar said:

Pet peeve (not really): realizing I actually just read this whole thread. All 51 pages.

Real pet peeves: people adding y sounds to words with the 'kin' syllable. For example napkin or pumpkin. It's like the synonym for family not kyin...

Oh and @TwiLyghtSansSparkles, you are not alone. Twimom is Djardad. "Those liberals are so evil" "black people were cursed by God" paraphrase: 'the forms of entertainment you enjoy are worthless. I don't even know what they are yet since I haven't given you a chance to say.' Or the worst one of all 'give me that thing.' What thing? Description please. Then you get yelled at for being stupid. Go die pig ******

On a less... Pure hateful rage inducing 'if they end up dead, look at me first as a suspect' note... Reading this thread for the first time and wanting so desperately to comment on past stuff, but not wanting to necro the conversation.

People making value judgements based on their stereotypes about media I enjoy, like anime or metal music (or even fantasy...). For the last time, people, not all anime is over-the-top targeted-at-8yr-olds shonen. And metal is actually the closest genre to classical music in composition out of modern styles. It is not screamo and it is not satanic. Those things are components you can add to any music, and it is just stereotyped as a metal/punk thing.

I don't like country music. I think it is basically people just making a poor rendition of yodelling about their tractors and exes. I still listened to several hours of it on the way to a scout camp before I made that judgement. I will listen to anything once, and probably more than once, before I make a judgement.

If you are one of those who doesn't believe metal has any redeeming qualities, listen to Call of Ktulu by Metallica. It's instrumental, so even if you don't like their vocals (which I can understand), you can still hear a great song. It isn't the pop ABA form I'm so generally tired of. It's, IIRC, more of an ABCAB form. It also isn't in your face loud. It is based off the Cthulhu mythos, so it is somewhat creepy, but wow. Well written. You just don't see as many sophisticated or diverse culture references is more mainstream genres like country, electronic, or true pop.

Or try Nightwish. They are a lovely Finnish band in the Symphonic Metal subgenre. They have gone through a few female leads that are actually pretty decent. They have an orchestra and a choir in the background on a lot of their tracks. It makes for a really layered, interesting sound. Also, one of the core members plays Uillean pipes (spelling unsure). Try Élan if that sounds even slightly interesting. It's not a heavy sound, for the most part.

If you don't mind trying a heavier sound, try Dragonforce. With clean vocals, it is something easier to like, and the players are RIDICULOUSLY good. Playing for 7 minutes at at least 200 bpm with nary a quarter note in sight takes serious technical skill and stamina. It also isn't 'let's play some really fast noise' punk music. It is well composed.

On a side note, if you want to be truly impressed, check out the Rock Band/Guitar Hero expert version of any song, and then compare it to the expert version of Dragonforce's 'Through the fire and the flames.' And then remember that playing a real guitar is harder. Wow.

Off my music soap box now... That I realize basically just became a plug for some bands I like... Oops...

I peeve out when people present only two options with political issues. For example, here in the US, we have a problem with lots of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other countries, but the focus is on Mexicans. It is presented that we either keep them out somehow, or give them all amnesty. No. There are other options. An example that I don't actually recommend, but present for humor value is that we annex Mexico and have done with it. Then we have a smaller border to guard.

Another is people misconstruing the guns rights issue. We have the right to bear arms so we can shoot back if the government tries something and we don't like it. It isn't about crime or mental health. Those matter, but if I want to be able to shoot down a government helicopter with a SAM, I should be able to do so. That probably comes across as extremely redneck, but my basis is sound. The founding fathers people love so much to pull the card for on various issues owned military grade weaponry (it was not as big a difference then, but still). Some private citizens owned warships and artillery for Pete's sake! I will semi gloss over the fact that the warships were used to escort their merchant fleets. That is beside the point. They could own such things. Now we complain about how much ammo a low caliber weapon can have in one magazine...

I think I'm done now. That was a bit longer than initially intended. Hopefully at least one of you listens to a song or two and appreciates It.

Agree fully on the metal part

I prefer Iron Maiden to Metallica, but I am a huge huge fan of Nightwish and in fact the entire symphonic metal subgenre. What did you think of their latest album?

[Djarskublar he/him]

Only discovered them a few weeks ago, so I couldn't say for sure. I'm not even sure which one that is. So far Dark Passion Play is where most of the songs I really like are from. I think I will agree with the popular opinion that the new singer is the best of them. Whatever her name was...

I don't listen to Iron Maiden much at all. I simply haven't gotten around to trying them out. I have only had the freedom to listen to what I want for a year or two, so I haven't had a lot of time to just explore. (thank you spotify for weekly recommendations.)

Symphonic Metal is simply the best, for sure. It's nice to know at least one other Sharder likes the stuff.

[PantsForSquares he/him]

16 minutes ago, Djarskublar said:

Or try Nightwish. They are a lovely Finnish band in the Symphonic Metal subgenre. They have gone through a few female leads that are actually pretty decent. They have an orchestra and a choir in the background on a lot of their tracks. It makes for a really layered, interesting sound. Also, one of the core members plays Uillean pipes (spelling unsure). Try Élan if that sounds even slightly interesting. It's not a heavy sound, for the most part.

If you don't mind trying a heavier sound, try Dragonforce. With clean vocals, it is something easier to like, and the players are RIDICULOUSLY good. Playing for 7 minutes at at least 200 bpm with nary a quarter note in sight takes serious technical skill and stamina. It also isn't 'let's play some really fast noise' punk music. It is well composed.

On a side note, if you want to be truly impressed, check out the Rock Band/Guitar Hero expert version of any song, and then compare it to the expert version of Dragonforce's 'Through the fire and the flames.' And then remember that playing a real guitar is harder. Wow.

I've had the pleasure of seeing Nightwish live, and they are absolutely amazing. Their music is of consistently high quality, and I got several of my friends, who enjoy classical music, into metal thanks to them.

As for Dragonforce, I've heard that they can't play live, and that their performances are basically sped up. I've never been one to enjoy their music (except for the Thomas the Tank Engine mash-up of Through the Fire and Flames), but Blind Guardian has basically been doing the same thing, but (subjectively) better.

As for technical skill goes, I'd say that it's only cool for guitarists and drummers. The more interesting stuff for bass players comes from jazz or funk, where you get people like Victor Wooten (Bela Fleck and the Flecktones) or Mark King (Level 42), who have the sort of technical skill that can only be described as divine.

[Djarskublar he/him]

4 minutes ago, PantsForSquares said:

I've had the pleasure of seeing Nightwish live, and they are absolutely amazing. Their music is of consistently high quality, and I got several of my friends, who enjoy classical music, into metal thanks to them.

As for Dragonforce, I've heard that they can't play live, and that their performances are basically sped up. I've never been one to enjoy their music (except for the Thomas the Tank Engine mash-up of Through the Fire and Flames), but Blind Guardian has basically been doing the same thing, but (subjectively) better.

As for technical skill goes, I'd say that it's only cool for guitarists and drummers. The more interesting stuff for bass players comes from jazz or funk, where you get people like Victor Wooten (Bela Fleck and the Flecktones) or Mark King (Level 42), who have the sort of technical skill that can only be described as divine.

Fair enough on the bass. Jazz is a fun genre when I'm in the mood, so I will check them out. I will let you know how that goes.

As for Dragonforce, I enjoy their music for its sheer wall of sound quality that can still be analyzed musically. They aren't the best, but I still love them. I can, critically speaking, agree with you, but I guess this is the part of my taste there is no accounting for

On the other hand, I don't watch many live shows, so that is less of a factor for me. Kudos to them if they can play live, but it isn't something everyone can do. I can still enjoy the album.

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

@Delightful, how old are u exactly, now I can't stop thinking of you in your mid-fourties XD

[marsoupial they/them]

4 hours ago, Djarskublar said:

I don't like country music. I think it is basically people just making a poor rendition of yodelling about their tractors and exes. I still listened to several hours of it on the way to a scout camp before I made that judgement. I will listen to anything once, and probably more than once, before I make a judgement.

...

Another is people misconstruing the guns rights issue. We have the right to bear arms so we can shoot back if the government tries something and we don't like it. It isn't about crime or mental health. Those matter, but if I want to be able to shoot down a government helicopter with a SAM, I should be able to do so. That probably comes across as extremely redneck, but my basis is sound. The founding fathers people love so much to pull the card for on various issues owned military grade weaponry (it was not as big a difference then, but still). Some private citizens owned warships and artillery for Pete's sake! I will semi gloss over the fact that the warships were used to escort their merchant fleets. That is beside the point. They could own such things. Now we complain about how much ammo a low caliber weapon can have in one magazine...

After half my life has been spent in Tennessee, I have learned that I dislike country music as well. 

If you're gonna drone on about how your pickup truck is your only friend, put some soul into it for Hoid's sake

 

And @Darkness Ascendant, she's not that old. @Delightful is probably in her twenties?

Edited September 30, 2016 by bleeder

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

6 hours ago, Djarskublar said:

Oh and @TwiLyghtSansSparkles, you are not alone. Twimom is Djardad. "Those liberals are so evil" "black people were cursed by God" paraphrase: 'the forms of entertainment you enjoy are worthless. I don't even know what they are yet since I haven't given you a chance to say.' Or the worst one of all 'give me that thing.' What thing? Description please. Then you get yelled at for being stupid. 

Yeah, I got that too. Growing up, it was Christian music only in the Twi household. Since I was homeschooled until seventh grade, the ban actually held up until I discovered the joys of "inferior" secular bands like Simple Plan and the Goo Goo Dolls. I remember a day, when I was sixteen or so, shortly after Twimom had discovered a printout of "Welcome to My Life" lyrics during a snoop through my room (and she had to really snoop, because it was folded up and hidden behind my dresser, which was in turn pushed against the wall) when Twidad sat me down and had a Serious Talk about what I was putting into my mind. I pointed out that "Crazy" actually had lyrics he and Twimom could get behind, even if they said the dreaded d-word, and he basically brushed me off with "Would you let your eight-year-old sister listen to this song? No? Then why are you listening to it?" I don't know, Twidad; why did you and Twimom rent R-rated movies that you could only watch after you'd sent me and my siblings to bed? 

Anyway. Yeah, I got that, too. 

Edited September 30, 2016 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles

[Orlion Blight he/him]

Yeah, some people like to focus on controlling stuff that really doesn't matter. Sometimes for no reason!

I remember commenting to a church member about how I was impressed by the literary references in a lot of metal songs I was listening to. His response? "That does not make it right."

It's musical escapism, loser, not some moral quandary!

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

11 minutes ago, Orlion Determined said:

Yeah, some people like to focus on controlling stuff that really doesn't matter. Sometimes for no reason!

I remember commenting to a church member about how I was impressed by the literary references in a lot of metal songs I was listening to. His response? "That does not make it right."

It's musical escapism, loser, not some moral quandary!

You speak as someone who has heard the infamous Dog Poop Brownies analogy more often than any human should. 

[marsoupial they/them]

1 hour ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

Yeah, I got that too. Growing up, it was Christian music only in the Twi household. Since I was homeschooled until seventh grade, the ban actually held up until I discovered the joys of "inferior" secular bands like Simple Plan and the Goo Goo Dolls. I remember a day, when I was sixteen or so, shortly after Twimom had discovered a printout of "Welcome to My Life" lyrics during a snoop through my room (and she had to really snoop, because it was folded up and hidden behind my dresser, which was in turn pushed against the wall) when Twidad sat me down and had a Serious Talk about what I was putting into my mind. I pointed out that "Crazy" actually had lyrics he and Twimom could get behind, even if they said the dreaded d-word, and he basically brushed me off with "Would you let your eight-year-old sister listen to this song? No? Then why are you listening to it?" I don't know, Twidad; why did you and Twimom rent R-rated movies that you could only watch after you'd sent me and my siblings to bed? 

Anyway. Yeah, I got that, too. 

My dad is the music minister at my church, I'm the bandleader of the youth band there; I still don't like Christian music. 

It's all the same structure, idea, and it's just... bleh. There are only two or three bands that I like. I believe in some cosmological deity that set the universe in motion, be that YHWH or Allah or the Holy Spirit or whatever, but I can't get with the whole Christian music thing. 

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Just now, bleeder said:

My dad is the music minister at my church, I'm the bandleader of the youth band there; I still don't like Christian music. 

It's all the same structure, idea, and it's just... bleh. There are only two or three bands that I like. I believe in some cosmological deity that set the universe in motion, be that YHWH or Allah or the Holy Spirit or whatever, but I can't get with the whole Christian music thing. 

For the most part, yeah, it's pretty much all the same. I grew up in the era of DC Talk, and they've stood the test of time; and Skillet and Relient K are pretty good too; but most Christian music is all bland worship songs or bland relationship songs that could be about Jesus or a significant other. 

[Djarskublar he/him]

Yeah living in Utah is hard. At least, it is as An LDS person who likes things that are decidedly frowned upon by the culture my faith is in. Just the culture, not explicitly by the faith itself. I kinda got tired of telling random schmucks that I know that, yes, I like metal, and no, it is not inherently evil or stuff with atrocious vocals.

I mean really... You listen to the pop garbage that is basically 90% 'hey you're hot let's have sex' or some variation of 'we broke up, so now I hate/miss you'... I can appreciate the exceptions to the rule, but the rule is still there. I feel really bad for people who limit themselves to only listening to MoTab. They are great, but not something you should want to listen to exclusively. Nothing should be listened to exclusively. That would be brainwashing.

Yeah I second Skillet. I only know a couple of their songs, but they are interesting.

Oh and Twi, if I had something that hidden and they had snooped to find it, I would be like 'yo, privacy!' I have as much a right to it as anyone. It's not like you had dirty mags stuffed under your matress. And I would tell them, yes, I would have my sister listen to it. If only to see how that went. Call me masochistic, but sometimes it is hilarious to see how far a punishment can be unreasonably taken. Like seriously, yeah sure, I didn't do X chore right. No, I wasn't shown how to do it properly (according to your definition). No that does not warrant almost hitting me (thank God for domestic violence laws that barely keep him in check), nor does it warrant me losing access to everything I enjoy except books, if only because they are really hard to remove access to. It definitely doesn't warrant any punishment for longer than a few days, not a month.

When I commit a crime worthy of a six month jail time, then you can take away non homework access to a computer for that duration. Punishment is supposed to teach, not reinforce your absolute authority. I was legitimately shocked when my father said that I had to respect him because of the 'honor your parents' commandment. I'm sitting there like, you sold that right for the mess of pottage known as a power trip. And seriously, when you pull the commandments card, you know your argument is on thin ice.

I lost the last shred of respect I had for either of my parents when one time I don't do something. I haven't the faintest what it was, so it can't have been that important. Fraternal progenitor comes home, find out, starts screaming, and gathers us all up on the couch huddling. I was like 8 or 10. He then proceeded to use a plastic bat, you know, the kind that is hollow and weighs a couple ounces, to put a hole the size of a softball in our sheetrock wall. Just a tiny bit less self control, and that would have been my head. Stupid statute of limitations. Then my mom has tried to justify his actions. She lost that argument every time. RIP respect.

Edit: actual peeve time! I peeve out way more than most people when they tell me I will treat my kids the same way my parents do. No, I will not treat them in a borderline illegal manner. I would in all seriousness rather be castrated. I am working hard now so that I can have my kids learn as many laguages as possible. I want to see if it is possible to have a kid understand all the different syllables out there. There are thousands of them, so I am guessing I should shoot for at least seven languages. Better get cracking on that Japanese. I have always been a more open minded individual because of my parenting, and I mostly just remember my childhood as being unfulfilling. I was that kid that would rather play with the babies at a party (and be good at it) or sit at the 'adult' table and listen to interesting conversations. I learned to play chess when I was three, and I legitimately won my first game against my aunt. Sure, I would have won either way, she was leading me into checkmating her, but I suddenly just moved a couple pieces and declared checkmate. If she didn't see it coming, it counts. (I'm not a chess prodigy, I just pick things up fast.) I guess that comes to my point that even a six year old me had a lot of good ideas. A lot of terrible ones too, but more on a moral point than anything. No, twelve year old me, this idea that is basically eugenics is not actually a good idea, but it's better than the poop jokes people expect.

Edited September 30, 2016 by Djarskublar

[Mestiv he/him]

1 hour ago, Djarskublar said:

Edit: actual peeve time! I peeve out way more than most people when they tell me I will treat my kids the same way my parents do.

Why would anyone say that o.O

[Djarskublar he/him]

Exactly, though they are more talking about spoiled children being like 'I don't get cake every day, I will treat my kids better!' It is about kids who don't understand the realities of parenting, which I do.

It is the... Not really a trope, but the trope of I will do things differently, then you do the same thing. Think about Calvin and Hobbes, for example. He is always saying he will treat his kids better, when it is a miracle he hasn't been strangled yet.

It just bothers me when people apply it to my situation. I would quite literally rather be shot to death (or any death really) than treat anyone how I have been treated.

The whole you will see when you are older just pisses me off. I have known for years that they have mistreated me, but It has only been recently that I have been able to put names to what they are doing and causing. As I get older, I hate them more, and I have yet to have an a-ha moment when I'm like, oh I see why you did that. Only moments when I say 'holy Hell, how did I survive that With any of my mind intact?'

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Generally, I find the "you'll see when you're older" argument is nothing more than a ploy to discount complaints and, sometimes, assuage one's own guilt over questionable parenting choices. 

[marsoupial they/them]

I rarely rant, but this is a rant, ladies, gents, et c. :

Spoiler

The Tennessee Department of Education has removed any and all measure of Islam from the 7th Grade History curriculum. 

In 7th grade, when I still had long hair and a high voice and a very high opinion of myself, I learned about the beautiful, intricate religion of Islam from my Social Studies teacher, and I quite enjoyed learning about the Five Pillars, and Muhammad, and such. 

But now, due to American Islamophobia, children will no longer learn about this other, fascinating, wonderful religion, and close-mindedness will remain, if not grow. 

My sister's boyfriend is a wonderful guy. He is kind, intelligent, and funny. And his parents happen to be from Egypt  (He also shares his name with an infamous terrorist organization leader, though he was born before said leader rose to power). He is not a Muslim, he is an atheist; but his parents and brother are Muslims (another thing: his brother, who lives in New York, is a programmer, so he carries a backpack. He also used to have a full beard and long hair. However, people were afraid that he was a terrorist, come to assert his power over NYC. So, bending to the Islamophobia, he shaved his head and beard, and began carrying a messenger bag instead; this bothers me, dear readers, for some reason). 

People are fearing Osama and his family, and others who share their appearance and beliefs, simply because of ethnicity and religion. And that really bothers me. 

 

[Eccentric Hero he/him]

3 hours ago, bleeder said:

I rarely rant, but this is a rant, ladies, gents, et c. :

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The Tennessee Department of Education has removed any and all measure of Islam from the 7th Grade History curriculum. 

In 7th grade, when I still had long hair and a high voice and a very high opinion of myself, I learned about the beautiful, intricate religion of Islam from my Social Studies teacher, and I quite enjoyed learning about the Five Pillars, and Muhammad, and such. 

But now, due to American Islamophobia, children will no longer learn about this other, fascinating, wonderful religion, and close-mindedness will remain, if not grow. 

My sister's boyfriend is a wonderful guy. He is kind, intelligent, and funny. And his parents happen to be from Egypt  (He also shares his name with an infamous terrorist organization leader, though he was born before said leader rose to power). He is not a Muslim, he is an atheist; but his parents and brother are Muslims (another thing: his brother, who lives in New York, is a programmer, so he carries a backpack. He also used to have a full beard and long hair. However, people were afraid that he was a terrorist, come to assert his power over NYC. So, bending to the Islamophobia, he shaved his head and beard, and began carrying a messenger bag instead; this bothers me, dear readers, for some reason). 

People are fearing Osama and his family, and others who share their appearance and beliefs, simply because of ethnicity and religion. And that really bothers me. 

 

Man, i first went to public school in 10th grade. I took World History. And what they taught about Islam was so sparse. What information they had was also quite wrong. Muhammad's (pbuh) life is probably the most and best documented with biographies written by non-Muslims too. However, the textbook could not tell the truth properly. They had a short summary of the prophet's life, saying matter-of-factly that he had to run away from Makkah with wording that made him seem like a coward.

Spoiler

 

Now, don't get me started about the terrible quality of public education.

In 10th grade, I was an extremely shy new kid who learned English from Indian teachers, but I could read out loud better than the rest of the class. The students had trouble pronouncing words when reading; like are you kidding me, that's only 3 syllables.

Math class was a bigger disappointment. In 11'th grade, I went to a collegiate high school and took College Algebra and Trig. In 12th grade, I went back to public school because I could get a higher GPA. I took precalc. The class was an easy version of  coll. alg. and trig. The class was so slow we didn't cover much of trig before school ended.

 

Oops, you got me started about the terrible quality of public education.

Edited September 30, 2016 by Eccentric Hero

[Magestar he/him]

24 minutes ago, Eccentric Hero said:

Oops, you got me started about the terrible quality of public education.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Ever.

Another problem is the idea that you can throw money at a system, to make it better.

It doen't work like that.  I'm going to not rant, because I don't have that kind of time.  But I agree.

25 minutes ago, Eccentric Hero said:

In 10th grade, I was an extremely shy new kid who learned English from Indian teachers, but I could read out loud better than the rest of the class. The students had trouble pronouncing words when reading; like are you kidding me, that's only 3 syllables.

It hurts to watch/Listen to.  Seriously.  I get some kids are shy, and that's why they trip up, but I don't get not being able to pronounce words.  I think it's because we read more.

This is why I'm homeschooled.  It works.  Of course, not all public schools are bad, and there are other methods that work, but I feel like there is a lot of bad.  I just don't get it.

[+Slowswift]

6 hours ago, Djarskublar said:

Yeah living in Utah is hard. At least, it is as An LDS person who likes things that are decidedly frowned upon by the culture my faith is in. Just the culture, not explicitly by the faith itself. I kinda got tired of telling random schmucks that I know that, yes, I like metal, and no, it is not inherently evil or stuff with atrocious vocals.

I mean really... You listen to the pop garbage that is basically 90% 'hey you're hot let's have sex' or some variation of 'we broke up, so now I hate/miss you'... I can appreciate the exceptions to the rule, but the rule is still there. I feel really bad for people who limit themselves to only listening to MoTab. They are great, but not something you should want to listen to exclusively. Nothing should be listened to exclusively. That would be brainwashing.

To the first bit, yeahhh... I'm also Mormon and living in Utah, and the culture frustrates me sometimes. 

To the second bit, you reminded me of a post of my uncle's (I recommended it to Twi a while back, too). Part of it said basically the same thing. Interested? 

Edited September 30, 2016 by Slowswift