Young Bard he/him Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) My theory: Calamity isn't the creature that caused Epics to start being created. Calamity is an Epic : a.k.a. Patient Zero. I'm trying to work out whether he actually has all the powers as well as being a gifter, or whether his power is simply being able to bestow Epic powers as he feels like it. I assume someone's said this before, but I couldn't see it after a cursory glance, so I'll just put it out there. Edited November 17, 2015 by TheYoungBard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 they say it in the books itself; either prof or david thinks that calamity is a sort of super-gifter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I don't know how to respond to with pictures, so just imagine a "why not both meme" in the place of txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard he/him Posted November 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 they say it in the books itself; either prof or david thinks that calamity is a sort of super-gifter Really? I think it's time for a re-read. I don't remember that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 The only strange thing is about the Weakness.Because if Calamity is just a Overpowered Gifter with all the powers. How may we explain the weakness ? More probably Calamity had "just" one power. Something like "powers creation" and with this power he gave himself any other think that he may need and begin to create other Epics. But also this explaination is very strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citadel16 he/him Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I don't know how to respond to with pictures, so just imagine a "why not both meme" in the place of txt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runyan Firetree Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Really? I think it's time for a re-read. I don't remember that at all. There was the scene prior to the climax of Firefight where Regalia admits to being in contact with Calamity and that Calamity agreed to give David a "thematically appropriate" power. She then raised David way up in the air to the point where he could make out Calamity in the sky, then later David hears Calamity’s voice telling him to take the power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 *facepalm* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unodus he/him Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 The only strange thing is about the Weakness. Because if Calamity is just a Overpowered Gifter with all the powers. How may we explain the weakness ? More probably Calamity had "just" one power. Something like "powers creation" and with this power he gave himself any other think that he may need and begin to create other Epics. But also this explaination is very strange to me. Perhaps his weakness has something to do with "fearing fear itself", which is why every epics weakness is their ultimate fear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citadel16 he/him Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I will bet money that calamity is going to have yet another trick ending like elantris, and that its going to be somethng along the lines of "the epics weren't made by calamity, but calamity by the epics" or some other brandon sanderson sterreotypical mumbo jumbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozndevl Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I will bet money that calamity is going to have yet another trick ending like elantris, and that its going to be somethng along the lines of "the epics weren't made by calamity, but calamity by the epics" or some other brandon sanderson sterreotypical mumbo jumbo And that mumbo jumbo is why we all keep coming back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard he/him Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 ...brandon sanderson stereotypical mumbo jumbo I am offend! Although, thinking seriously, it physically wouldn't be possible, as Epics (regular ones, that is) only appeared a year after Calamity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I am offend! Although, thinking seriously, it physically wouldn't be possible, as Epics (regular ones, that is) only appeared a year after Calamity. Well there was one who appeared before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citadel16 he/him Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 And that mumbo jumbo is why we all keep coming back! Exactly! I am offend! Although, thinking seriously, it physically wouldn't be possible, as Epics (regular ones, that is) only appeared a year after Calamity. yes but still... its probably going to be the exact opposite of whatever everyone's thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye_Meii she/her Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 But if Calamity was a gifter, the Epics wouldn't run wild, would they? Since the Reckoner's could use Prof's powers an not run wild… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 But if Calamity was a gifter, the Epics wouldn't run wild, would they? Since the Reckoner's could use Prof's powers an not run wild… I think he's more of a super-gifter, one whose gifts are permanent rather than temporary. David mentioned in Steelheart that the Diggers went insane, and Prof has said that if he gifts his power to just one person for too long, they'll start to change. So I think Calamity's giftings operate by a slightly different set of rules than those of Epic gifters, but the same principle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos he/him Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Editing this topic title to not have all caps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Editing this topic title to not have all caps. While you're here, is there a reason this subforum isn't protected like the firefight one? Edited December 2, 2015 by Voidus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 About Gifting power contamination: I just reread Steelheart, and it talks about how gifting powers eventually corrupts the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard he/him Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 About Gifting power contamination: I just reread Steelheart, and it talks about how gifting powers eventually corrupts the person. If they're given too much, yes. I just had my re-read as well. The problem is, I always think of something that's intriguing, but not incorrect. My original thought for Steelheart's weakness was the crossfire thing, until David mentioned it. Then I knew that wasn't it. It's a similar story with this. I've actually been tinkering around with the theory since before Firefight, but now I know that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citadel16 he/him Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 If they're given too much, yes. I just had my re-read as well. The problem is, I always think of something that's intriguing, but not incorrect. My original thought for Steelheart's weakness was the crossfire thing, until David mentioned it. Then I knew that wasn't it. It's a similar story with this. I've actually been tinkering around with the theory since before Firefight, but now I know that's not the case. Exactly! Mumbo Jumbo! we never truly know whats going on in his books! its part of why we like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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