iBambam Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I wonder if he decided to tap some luck after seeing the broadsheets and found out "oh [insert Yolish curseword here] there's Cosmere stuff going down." He did show up unexpectedly just in time for Wax to put his earring back in, after all. That's when he gets into the carriage and Hoid is the driver right? Then has the long conversation with Harmony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copperkeep Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Weight? I'm not sure where, but I thought we had confirmation that storing too much weight for too long would make you sick? I'm still generally confused because I've heard it said that it kind of is and kind of isn't storing gravitational pull, kind of is and kind of isn't storing mass, and kind of does and kind of doesn't affect your body's density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure where, but I thought we had confirmation that storing too much weight for too long would make you sick? I'm still generally confused because I've heard it said that it kind of is and kind of isn't storing gravitational pull, kind of is and kind of isn't storing mass, and kind of does and kind of doesn't affect your body's density. Wax stores weight all the time and seems fine. I've never heard it said that storing weight makes you sick. Edited December 22, 2015 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Wax stores weight all the time and seems fine. I've never heard it said that storing weight makes you safe. Unless SoS says something new, Wax goes around with the 70% of his weight. But there is WoB about the Feruchemist/Ferring that tap/store very often (or always) Attributes may have some kind of side effect. For example Wax's body usually is more light of how it should and probably his bones/muscles with the time may adapt with this condition. He may be not as efficient as a normal human when he does'nt store his weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 He can't store while unconscious so it's not a 24/7 thing for him honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I would still think Wax's muscles would atrophy, at least to am extent. But Feruchemy also changes the users body chemistry so their body can withstand the changes correct? Or else wouldn't increasing their weight to an absurd degree, as we've seen Wax do, eventually crush your organs and skeletal system under the sheer density of your body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 The only Feruchemical support that we've seen Wax have is added strength necessary to function normally when tapping metalminds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Which would have to be a change in his body chemistry to support the added weight, it must do something to the body because their size doesn't increase when they increase weight if memory serves me correctly. So I would think if his compensates strength for added weight, it must also compensate for reducing weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ninja Yodeler he/him Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Which would have to be a change in his body chemistry to support the added weight, it must do something to the body because their size doesn't increase when they increase weight if memory serves me correctly. So I would think if his compensates strength for added weight, it must also compensate for reducing weight.Maybe Brandon will throw something in about tapping & storing higgs boson particles, and it doing something to help with the whole organ crushing thing. That would be awesome for him to throw in the higgs boson. *In the future era books obviously. I highly doubt era 1.5 will discover it.EDIT* Edited December 23, 2015 by The Ninja Yodeler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 That is an awesome idea! It would let him explain a lot of different things with Feruchemy. I don't think he'd call it the Higgs Boson Particle though, he'll probably develop some name linked to Scadrial that is a mirror image of the Higgs Boson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Are Higgs Bosons part of a person's Physical-realm state, or Spiritual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ninja Yodeler he/him Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Are Higgs Bosons part of a person's Physical-realm state, or Spiritual? Thats a good question. Gonna have to think about tht one. That is an awesome idea! It would let him explain a lot of different things with Feruchemy. I don't think he'd call it the Higgs Boson Particle though, he'll probably develop some name linked to Scadrial that is a mirror image of the Higgs BosonDefinitely he will come up with an in world name for it (if he incorporates it that is). Yeah it would give him a scientific tool to work with, so it isnt just 'Magick did it'. I love seeing that in his stories, magick being explained and demystified by science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Definitely he will come up with an in world name for it (if he incorporates it that is). Yeah it would give him a scientific tool to work with, so it isnt just 'Magick did it'. I love seeing that in his stories, magick being explained and demystified by science. Well, demystification leads ultimately to "it's because we have a bunch of 1/16 parts of force of creation sitting on the planet". Edited December 23, 2015 by Oversleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Thats a good question. Gonna have to think about tht one. Definitely he will come up with an in world name for it (if he incorporates it that is). Yeah it would give him a scientific tool to work with, so it isnt just 'Magick did it'. I love seeing that in his stories, magick being explained and demystified by science. Magic(why the "k"?) making bosons disappear is still magic doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Human souls in the cosmere are made of the same stuff magic is. That's how their universe works really, and people study the stuff. It has its own rules; it might as well just be science our world doesn't have, so the way it bends physics should matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 It definitely should, I look forward to him diving into that when we approach the more futuristic novels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I know how it does things matters, but saying magic changes the mass of stuff and magic manipulates bosons doens't change the fact there is magic. The fact said magic obeys well defined rules does not change that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks for undermining the purpose of the Cosmere Theories board Not entirely sure why that is brought up as an issue. The entirety of Mistborn exists because of magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Suspension of belief, people! We have it easy, we just have to accept the existence of Adonalsium and its Shards, everything else is just a consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 OH. Dragons. We're supposed to accept dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks for undermining the purpose of the Cosmere Theories board Wait, what is wrong with magic doing magical things? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Twit he/him Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Wait, what is wrong with magic doing magical things? O_oHe may have been saying that accepting that it's magic which makes you lighter means that we won't delve any further into the issue to see exactly what mechanisms, magical or not, are causing the change.Magic is often seen as a buzzword for anything that we can't understand or explain in scientific terms. I think there may have been some miscommunication going on, if that was not what you were meaning to imply. Edited December 24, 2015 by King's Twit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 There's a meme that I've been thinking about. I'm so sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Ohhhhhh the lolz, that deserved an upvote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 He may have been saying that accepting that it's magic which makes you lighter means that we won't delve any further into the issue to see exactly what mechanisms, magical or not, are causing the change. But saying investiture isn't magic just because it follows measurable rules is false. That is my point, when discussing fantasy you can't just turn magic into a dirty word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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