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I remember those days. It gets better; the first couple of days after each tightening are the worst.

(I played the oboe with braces. I remember your pain.)

Oh yes. Ohhhhh yes.

I remember one of the worst things about having braces was that I couldn't eat corn on the cob. I had to cut the corn off the cob and it it sadly while watching my siblings have way too much fun (on purpose I tell you) eating theirs. Please understand. My life consists of waiting for fall so I can have corn on the cob. I am a corn on the cob addict. Not having that joy... *shudders*

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As someone who has crooked teeth and will likely be getting their wisdom teeth out and braces put on...

...you're not helping. :mellow:

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And the Random Stuff II thread is closed. A moment of silence, please, for that wonderful and random thread...

 

And we almost made it to 100 pages here, too...

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As someone who has crooked teeth and will likely be getting their wisdom teeth out and braces put on...

...you're not helping. :mellow:

Will it help if I eat your corn for you? I'll do that.

To quote Studio C (more specifically, Mallory in a dumpster):

"Oh look, corn! All day corn. Corn for DAYS!"

[/obscure reference]

Also, after rereading Alloy of Law, I may say that Wayne is a five-star novel. All I remember from when I read it last was that I thought it wasn't as good as some of Sanderson's other books. I want to slap myself now. It's got Wayne! Wayne automatically makes it a five-star novel. Plus, lucky hat.

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Will it help if I eat your corn for you? I'll do that.

To quote Studio C (more specifically, Mallory in a dumpster):

"Oh look, corn! All day corn. Corn for DAYS!"

[/obscure reference]

Also, after rereading Alloy of Law, I may say that Wayne is a five-star novel. All I remember from when I read it last was that I thought it wasn't as good as some of Sanderson's other books. I want to slap myself now. It's got Wayne! Wayne automatically makes it a five-star novel. Plus, lucky hat.

That's a great Studio C reference.

The Alloy of Law is actually my favorite book, so I agree! Wayne does make it a five-star book!

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I have a confession for you all.

I love Vin. I love Elend. Kelsier's crew is in top form as usual. Sazed and Tindwyl are amazing, and I want to give Demoux a pug hug. OreSeur is wonderfully snippy. If there are any other decent characters I missed, they're included in spirit.

But I am not enjoying Well of Ascension.

The writing is great. The world is innovative. The characters are well rounded. But only the decent ones are bearable. Every time someone other than one of the aforementioned characters appears on the page, I want to leap into Scadrial with a mannequin made entirely of middle fingers, and I want to beat them over the head with it. I hate them all that much.

I haven't read any more in two days. I have chharacters to root for, and I'm rooting for them, but everyone else is just so despicable that I'm having a hard time getting through.

Help? Or advice? Pictures of Demoux hugging a pug while Straff and Philen choke on their own smug smiles?

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I have a confession for you all.

I love Vin. I love Elend. Kelsier's crew is in top form as usual. Sazed and Tindwyl are amazing, and I want to give Demoux a pug hug. OreSeur is wonderfully snippy. If there are any other decent characters I missed, they're included in spirit.

But I am not enjoying Well of Ascension.

The writing is great. The world is innovative. The characters are well rounded. But only the decent ones are bearable. Every time someone other than one of the aforementioned characters appears on the page, I want to leap into Scadrial with a mannequin made entirely of middle fingers, and I want to beat them over the head with it. I hate them all that much.

I haven't read any more in two days. I have chharacters to root for, and I'm rooting for them, but everyone else is just so despicable that I'm having a hard time getting through.

Help? Or advice? Pictures of Demoux hugging a pug while Straff and Philen choke on their own smug smiles?

How about assurances that Straff eventually gets the crem beaten out of him by Vin, emotionally and physically?

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I remember those days.  It gets better; the first couple of days after each tightening are the worst.

 

(I played the oboe with braces.  I remember your pain.)

I play the Trombone with braces. It was hard for a couple days but I got used to it.

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I feel you, Twi. I don't express this much, but I only really cared for the first Mistborn and the Alloy of Law books. The other two just get too dang dark and bleak and depressing and irritating. :mellow:

 

 

Meanwhile, Reddit reminds me that after all this time, my emotions still haven't recovered from Up.

 


We say Riley's control room in "Inside Out." What does it look like inside the minds of other Pixar characters?

...

Sadness is in charge, but is too apathetic to get anything done, so Anger keeps taking the wheel.

 

Darn it Reddit. Don't do this to me. :(

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My siblings assured me that all of the awful characters get their comeuppance, but....I just don't know how much more of this I can take. I think I'll need to take a break for a while. Go back to rereading TFE for the memes, maybe go back to the Alcatraz books. I'm not saying that as a criticism of Sanderson; to the contrary, he's elicited some very strong emotional reactions from me, which is good! I just....don't think I can handle this many chulls having this much power. :mellow:

Though if anyone wants to draw Demoux being mobbed by pugs, I'd be much obliged. :ph34r:

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I'm also rereading WoA right now, and I understand what you mean, Twi. This book and the next don't have the quick, upbeat pace of the first. The second one is the hardest to get through. But then again, I love Mistborn, maybe more than SA now that I'm rereading it, and so I might be biased.

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I have a confession for you all.

I love Vin. I love Elend. Kelsier's crew is in top form as usual. Sazed and Tindwyl are amazing, and I want to give Demoux a pug hug. OreSeur is wonderfully snippy. If there are any other decent characters I missed, they're included in spirit.

But I am not enjoying Well of Ascension.

The writing is great. The world is innovative. The characters are well rounded. But only the decent ones are bearable. Every time someone other than one of the aforementioned characters appears on the page, I want to leap into Scadrial with a mannequin made entirely of middle fingers, and I want to beat them over the head with it. I hate them all that much.

I haven't read any more in two days. I have chharacters to root for, and I'm rooting for them, but everyone else is just so despicable that I'm having a hard time getting through.

Help? Or advice? Pictures of Demoux hugging a pug while Straff and Philen choke on their own smug smiles?

I know your pain, I felt the same way when I read it, but it does get better. To paraphrase Alcatraz (evil librarians series):

this is the middle book, everything always goes wrong in the middle book. It's a trick we authors use to make readers scared for the characters.

Don't worry, if it weren't for the pain that is The Well of Ascention, we wouldn't get the epicness that is The Hero of Ages. :)

Also, Beeing gone for a day is too long, look at all the fun you guys had without me!

My library is so cool. ^_^ I walk in and see this shelf:post-14607-0-84770400-1446600381_thumb.jpost-14607-0-39816100-1446600452_thumb.jpost-14607-0-39947800-1446600492_thumb.j And if you look at the third picture, you'll see a book called Written in Red. Wow. Started it last night and finished it today. I haven't had a book get me this excited since I first read Sanderson. :mellow:

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I know your pain, I felt the same way when I read it, but it does get better. To paraphrase Alcatraz (evil librarians series):

Don't worry, if it weren't for the pain that is The Well of Ascention, we wouldn't get the epicness that is The Hero of Ages. :)

Also, Beeing gone for a day is too long, look at all the fun you guys had without me!

My library is so cool. ^_^ I walk in and see this shelf: image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg And if you look at the third picture, you'll see a book called Written in Red. Wow. Started it last night and finished it today. I haven't had a book get me this excited since I first read Sanderson. :mellow:

That's part of the problem--I know most of the major spoilers, so I'm tempted to just fill in the gaps with the Coppermind, then skip to HoA and then AoL.

I've heard WiR is good...I take it the rumors are true?

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That's part of the problem--I know most of the major spoilers, so I'm tempted to just fill in the gaps with the Coppermind, then skip to HoA and then AoL.

I've heard WiR is good...I take it the rumors are true?

Oh yes. She is so good at characterization and making nonhuman characters relatable. (And you really have to for this book, large cast and only 3 human PoVs.)

My biggest issue was that she's a little less clean then Sanderson. Real swear words, a bit more description when it comes to certain scenes, but the book was great overall. And felt strange and refreshing because of the lack of Sanderson Avalanche. I give it a 19/20.

Edit: though Anne Bishop is still a very evil author. I NEED BOOK 2.

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That's part of the problem--I know most of the major spoilers, so I'm tempted to just fill in the gaps with the Coppermind, then skip to HoA and then AoL.

I honestly found Well of Ascension to be almost boring. It wasn't as fast-paced as the first and didn't seem to be resolving anything. But it needs to be read. I'll start to make sense later and it'll get better. And then you can have Hero of Ages, which is amazing and filled with awesomeness and wonderfulness. And then you can have Alloy of Law, which has Wayne.

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I just got braces. Eating is so hard.....I think I'll just quit it. Nobody really needs to eat, right?.....

I got braces recently too! It gets worse for the next couple of days (your teeth hurt) (sorry :( ) but it eventually gets better

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I honestly found Well of Ascension to be almost boring. It wasn't as fast-paced as the first and didn't seem to be resolving anything. But it needs to be read. I'll start to make sense later and it'll get better. And then you can have Hero of Ages, which is amazing and filled with awesomeness and wonderfulness. And then you can have Alloy of Law, which has Wayne.

It's not the pacing for me; I'm fine with slower paced books, so long as what's happening to the characters holds my interest. The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane is slow and quiet, but I'd never call it boring. It's just that in WoA, there are so many characters I can't stand. If Sanderson wrote "And then Szeth Son-Son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, leaped in out of nowhere. Straff, Cett, Penrod, Philen and all their compatriots died with their eyes burning, and then Vin and Elend took OreSeur and Demoux out for ice cream," I would be okay with that.

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It's not the pacing for me; I'm fine with slower paced books, so long as what's happening to the characters holds my interest. The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane is slow and quiet, but I'd never call it boring. It's just that in WoA, there are so many characters I can't stand. If Sanderson wrote "And then Szeth Son-Son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, leaped in out of nowhere. Straff, Cett, Penrod, Philen and all their compatriots died with their eyes burning, and then Vin and Elend took OreSeur and Demoux out for ice cream," I would be okay with that.

Shh.... Spoilers... :ph34r:

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Well of Ascension is the Empire Strikes Back.  It's the Attack on Titan.  It's the... well, the couple of years following the Russian Revolution.  It's dark, and unsettling, and you don't have familiar tropes to fall back on.  But things turn, and twist, and turn more.  It's arguably a shaggy dog story, but only in the sense that it makes the first book a shaggy dog story too.  But read on - what downer treats await you!

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*Sniff* I'll always remember you, Random Stuff II! What cruel, soulless mod could strike you down just as you reached your Golden years! Perhaps, it is just the Human thing to destroy beautiful things...

 

A Divine Image

BY WILLIAM BLAKE

Cruelty has a Human Heart
And Jealousy a Human Face 
Terror the Human Form Divine 
And Secrecy, the Human Dress 

The Human Dress, is forged Iron 
The Human Form, a fiery Forge. 
The Human Face, a Furnace seal'd 
The Human Heart, its hungry Gorge.
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Well of Ascension is the Empire Strikes Back. It's the Attack on Titan. It's the... well, the couple of years following the Russian Revolution. It's dark, and unsettling, and you don't have familiar tropes to fall back on. But things turn, and twist, and turn more. It's arguably a shaggy dog story, but only in the sense that it makes the first book a shaggy dog story too. But read on - what downer treats await you!

Empire Strikes Back didn't have any characters that made me want to leap through the screen and stab with a fork, though. It seems every time WoA introduces a POV that doesn't belong to one of the main characters, it's a character I want to stab with a fork. A rusty one.

Argh, maybe it's my job. It's normal for me to get yelled at by self-centered jerks who would watch the world burn for a 50% off coupon, so reading about lovable characters who get the same treatment on a much grander scale just ticks me off.

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