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Makes me wonder if the Lord Ruler ever said "By the Lord Ruler" when he was frustrated. :ph34r:

 

Or like the Small God of Hangovers, just said, "Oh, me," on occasion.

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Now I'm getting this image of him saying "By Rashek" and when the Inquisitors ask who Rashek is, he just laughs and laughs.

 

Why are the bad guys always so super serious?  Would it kill them to have a sense of humor?

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Why are the bad guys always so super serious?  Would it kill them to have a sense of humor?

Well, that's how you get the Joker... I'm not sure if we need more of him...

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If the answer is yes, then it would make a lot of climactic battle scenes much more humorous.

 

 

That's part of why I love the Master / Missy in Doctor Who. The character's completely evil and irreedemable, but (s)he somehow makes me laugh while doing the most terrible of things. :blink:

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That's part of why I love the Master / Missy in Doctor Who. The character's completely evil and irreedemable, but (s)he somehow makes me laugh while doing the most terrible of things. :blink:

Unlike Lumic, who was so serious he seemed like he was trying to win some sort of contest...which actually sounds like the sort of contest the Master would hold. And pronounce Lumic the winner of. :mellow:

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That's part of why I love the Master / Missy in Doctor Who. The character's completely evil and irreedemable, but (s)he somehow makes me laugh while doing the most terrible of things. :blink:

"I can't decide, whether you should live or die..."
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Unlike Lumic, who was so serious he seemed like he was trying to win some sort of contest...which actually sounds like the sort of contest the Master would hold. And pronounce Lumic the winner of. :mellow:

 

 

See, I doubt John Lumic could even order coffee without shouting bombastic death threats about the future of humanity at the barista.

 

 

(Death in Heaven spoilers)

 

Meanwhile, Missy can kill off my favorite characters while still making me crack a guilty grin in between sobs.

 

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On a completely unrelated note, if I ever wrote an autobiography or had a biography written about me it would just be "She was supposed to be doing homework."

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1. I finished Name Of the Wind, it is amazing.

2. Humorous villains? What do you guys think we do in the Dark Alley?

3. Do I read The Lies Of Locke Lamora or the third Dresden Files first?

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See, I doubt John Lumic could even order coffee without shouting bombastic death threats about the future of humanity at the barista.

(Death in Heaven spoilers)

Meanwhile, Missy can kill off my favorite characters while still making me crack a guilty grin in between sobs.

Which is why it's a darn shame they never met. -_-

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So, a lot of HP fans complain about S.P.E.W. and its presence in the novels, claiming that Hermione was acting irrationally in her attempts to free the elves. They make the same arguments that Ron and Harry make in the novels, claiming that the elves cherish their situation and that campaigning to have them freed from it is morally wrong.

 

I find myself increasingly frustrated by this.

 

 

 

The thing is, Hermione is right. Elves have been enslaved for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, and the way specimens like Kreacher accept actions of utter abuse, even inflicting physical harm upon themselves, is not healthy by any species' standards and couldn't possibly have developed naturally. Whatever elf culture might have existed in the distant past has long since been stamped out, and now all that remains is a self-damaging form of species-wide Stockholm Syndrome.

 

Arguments that house-elves adore their slavery, or worse, that they couldn't live without it, are eerily similar to the arguments of anti-abolitionists of the muggle world, who held that the people of Africa had been designed to serve white people and that trying to free them was acting against God's will.

 

Where Hermione makes her mistake is by trying to force social change via the resources of a fourteen year-old schoolgirl. Her actions would be equivalent to a Southern belle in the pre Civil War days of America trying to chase the family slaves off the farm, paying no heed to the fact that they are uneducated, illiterate, and would be incapable of finding employment or freedom in the outside world. The problem she was trying to tackle was simply too big and too deep-rooted for a single school society to get rid of, and I feel a character as clever as Hermione should have figured out that her approach wasn't going anywhere far sooner.

 

Do not mistake the futility of Hermione's goals with immorality or stupidity, however. The treatment of the elves is a serious problem, and it needs to be addressed as soon as wizardly possible.

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So, a lot of HP fans complain about S.P.E.W. and its presence in the novels, claiming that Hermione was acting irrationally in her attempts to free the elves. They make the same arguments that Ron and Harry make in the novels, claiming that the elves cherish their situation and that campaigning to have them freed from it is morally wrong.

I find myself increasingly frustrated by this.

The thing is, Hermione is right. Elves have been enslaved for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, and the way specimens like Kreacher accept actions of utter abuse, even inflicting physical harm upon themselves, is not healthy by any species' standards and couldn't possibly have developed naturally. Whatever elf culture might have existed in the distant past has long since been stamped out, and now all that remains is a self-damaging form of species-wide Stockholm Syndrome.

Arguments that house-elves adore their slavery, or worse, that they couldn't live without it, are eerily similar to the arguments of anti-abolitionists of the muggle world, who held that the people of Africa had been designed to serve white people and that trying to free them was acting against God's will.

Where Hermione makes her mistake is by trying to force social change via the resources of a fourteen year-old schoolgirl. Her actions would be equivalent to a Southern belle in the pre Civil War days of America trying to chase the family slaves off the farm, paying no heed to the fact that they are uneducated, illiterate, and would be incapable of finding employment or freedom in the outside world. The problem she was trying to tackle was simply too big and too deep-rooted for a single school society to get rid of, and I feel a character as clever as Hermione should have figured out that her approach wasn't going anywhere far sooner.

Do not mistake the futility of Hermione's goals with immorality or stupidity, however. The treatment of the elves is a serious problem, and it needs to be addressed as soon as wizardly possible.

I doubt it will, sadly. Wizarding society may have benefits Muggles can only dream of (longer life spans, time-saving spells, Luna Lovegood) but they are woefully backward when it comes to addressing pertinent social issues. Consider that....

Lycanthropy is the wizarding equivalent of AIDS--a highly contagious and debilitating disease with a strong social stigma attached. Yet despite werewolves being a part of wizarding society for far longer than AIDS has even existed, there are no visible efforts to eradicate the stigma or treat werewolves with more compassion.

Hogwarts teachers can publicly humiliate and bully students with no repercussions. If a teacher has enough power--say, if he's the Headmaster--he can even rob one group of students of their victory and give it to another group with, again, no repercussions.

Underage students fought in a highly dangerous and deadly battle, and there was not a single lawsuit we know of.

Between Fluffy, the basilisk, and the giant spiders, their most prestigious school is a death trap.

Students are assigned detentions in the death traptastic Forbidden Forest, at night, with finals looming and a unicorn slayer on the loose. Yet when one of the students (who, by the way, is eleven) threatens to tell his father, he is told that there is nothing his father can do.

All of this (save for the battle) happens before the wizarding equivalent of Hitler takes power, meaning abuse of power and social stigmas for the ill are normal. If Wizarding Britain hasn't seen fit to lift a finger regarding those and other problems, I don't see why they'd feel compelled to abolish slavery within their borders.

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Woah. Umm. Oh. I had never viewed HP in that way before...

I choose to never look at it that way.

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"My father will hear about this."

 

--Perhaps the only soul at Hogwarts who realizes that long walks through monster-infested forests really shouldn't be part of standard disciplinary procedure.

 

But yeah. My personal theory is that the wizarding world lags behind muggle society by a century or two, meaning that in the era of the books wizards are still stuck with all the corruption of the late 1700s / early 1800s. Hence the rigid classism, casual racism, nationalist mindset, obsession with boarding schools, accumulation of the wealth within a few distinct families... need I go on? Not even the constant streams of Muggle-borns are enough to update their society in a meaningful way, considering any of them who raise objections to how things are run are told to shut up and accept that they don't know squat about the magical world.

 

Hopefully the rise of Hermione as a noteworthy member of the Ministry of Magic will start changing things for the better--though given the state of the government, she'll probably spend all her time fighting an uphill battle against those who wish to make things even more backwards and primitive, leaving her with little time for modernization.

 

 

I choose to never look at it that way.

 

You're missing out. Some of the best fun as a fan is sifting through the setting and focusing on the horrendous implications and quirks of the world. You should hear me compare Princess Celestia to the Lord Ruler sometime. :P

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--Perhaps the only soul at Hogwarts who realizes that long walks through monster-infested forests really shouldn't be part of standard disciplinary procedure.

But yeah. My personal theory is that the wizarding world lags behind muggle society by a century or two, meaning that in the era of the books wizards are still stuck with all the corruption of the late 1700s / early 1800s. Hence the rigid classism, casual racism, nationalist mindset, obsession with boarding schools, accumulation of the wealth within a few distinct families... need I go on? Not even the constant streams of Muggle-borns are enough to update their society in a meaningful way, considering any of them who raise objections to how things are run are told to shut up and accept that they don't know squat about the magical world.

Hopefully the rise of Hermione as a noteworthy member of the Ministry of Magic will start changing things for the better--though given the state of the government, she'll probably spend all her time fighting an uphill battle against those who wish to make things even more backwards and primitive, leaving her with little time for modernization.

You're missing out. Some of the best fun as a fan is sifting through the setting and focusing on the horrendous implications and quirks of the world. You should hear me compare Princess Celestia to the Lord Ruler sometime. :P

Despite his many character flaws and outdated views, Draco Malfoy really was ahead of his time on that point. :P

Wizarding Britain does seem to be stuck in the 17-1800s socially, proving that the Statute of Secrecy should've been abolished by now. All it does is stunt progress for wizards and give the worse among them an excuse to fear and distrust Muggles.

Personally, ever since hearing the theory that Draco is a werewolf and that he left his parents' beliefs behind after the war, a fanfic has been clattering through my head. In it, he befriends a chipper Muggle barista, who begins to erode at his prejudices; as he becomes increasingly disillusioned, he takes an extended trip to America where he drifts between the American wizarding underground and the Muggle world, adopting many Muggle pastimes and drifting further and further from the person he was during his Hogwarts years. This, when he finally gives Harry thst solemn nod in the DH epilogue, it isn't resentful acknowledgement over Harry saving his life, but an acceptance that they have even less to say to each other than they did during the war. Draco knows things Harry refuses to accept, one of them being that he has changed for the better.

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WHAT?

 

 

Both came to power after defeating an ancient spirit of entropy.

 

Both ruled for approximately a thousand years.

 

Both use pawns and ancient magic to maintain power against various foes.

 

Both are functionally immortal.

 

Both are constantly seen wearing specific items of jewelry for potentially magical reasons.

 

Both inhabit palaces with an excessive number of spires...

 

 

Despite his many character flaws and outdated views, Draco Malfoy really was ahead of his time on that point.  :P

Wizarding Britain does seem to be stuck in the 17-1800s socially, proving that the Statute of Secrecy should've been abolished by now. All it does is stunt progress for wizards and give the worse among them an excuse to fear and distrust Muggles.

Personally, ever since hearing the theory that Draco is a werewolf and that he left his parents' beliefs behind after the war, a fanfic has been clattering through my head. In it, he befriends a chipper Muggle barista, who begins to erode at his prejudices; as he becomes increasingly disillusioned, he takes an extended trip to America where he drifts between the American wizarding underground and the Muggle world, adopting many Muggle pastimes and drifting further and further from the person he was during his Hogwarts years. This, when he finally gives Harry thst solemn nod in the DH epilogue, it isn't resentful acknowledgement over Harry saving his life, but an acceptance that they have even less to say to each other than they did during the war. Draco knows things Harry refuses to accept, one of them being that he has changed for the better.

 

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I would totally read that fanfiction. :D

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Both came to power after defeating an ancient spirit of entropy.

Both ruled for approximately a thousand years.

Both used pawns and ancient magic to maintain power against various foes.

Both are functionally immortal.

Both are constantly seen wearing specific items of jewelry for potentially magical reasons.

Both inhabit palaces with an excessive number of spires...

Worldhopper!Celestia?

TLR as Celestia's evil twin of which she and Luna never speak?

Equestria most likely part of the Cosmere?

All confirmed. :ph34r:

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