TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I'm also sad that Andrew Garfield doesn't get to keep the role. I really liked him as Peter. Same here. As an American, I was especially impressed with how convincing his accent was--Robert Pattinson (who I always think of as Shovel Face, thanks Honest Trailers) couldn't pull it off without it sounding very forced. Plus Garfield is an all-around good actor, and I liked seeing him in that role. Edited October 19, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles 2
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Same here. As an American, I was especially impressed with how convincing his accent was--Robert Pattinson (who I always think of as Shovel Face, thanks Honest Trailers) couldn't pull it off without it sounding very forced. Plus Garfield is an all-around good actor, and I liked seeing him in that role. What do you mean? Only Toby Maguire played Spider-Man? *wink wink*
Zathoth Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Hello sharders, how are your fundamentally meaningless lives?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Hello sharders, how are your fundamentally meaningless lives? I'm working a little late today, and because of a last-minute scheduling goof, I wound up going on a break. I used it to buy fabric to sew Bruce a Batman cape. Edited October 19, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles 3
+Slowswift Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Not bad, 'cept for the fact that I still have a cold. I just watched Clash of the Titans, the 2010 one. It was actually really good. Except everyone dies. I laughed way too hard when: "But Charon only ferries the dead." *unsheaths sword* "Any volunteers?" Also: "I am Groot." -- Charon 1
Delightful Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Too bad, you'll get an answer anyway! Strictly speaking, it is simply "denying" something. In common parlance, though, it usually connotes "existential nihilism", where you view the universe around you as being "absurd" (without perceivable meaning) and conclude that there is no meaning behind anything, so angst. You bury nihilism in routine? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Zathoth Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I'm working a little late today, and because of a last-minute scheduling goof, I wound up going on a break. I used it to buy fabric to sew Bruce a Batman cape. Bruceman? Pugman? I like Pugman. Definitely Pugman. Speaking of nihilism. I once tried to question everything. I ended up with "Why should I be happy? --->To function properly---->Why?" Today I made the leap of "Well, if everything is fundamentally meaningless I might as well go with whatever is the most fun." Sooo... that was interesting, to me. 1
Delightful Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Bruceman? Pugman? I like Pugman. Definitely Pugman. Speaking of nihilism. I once tried to question everything. I ended up with "Why should I be happy? --->To function properly---->Why?" Today I made the leap of "Well, if everything is fundamentally meaningless I might as well go with whatever is the most fun." Sooo... that was interesting, to me. which boils down to meaning of life questions. IS everything meaningless? How can you be sure? 1
DreamEternal Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Bruceman? Pugman? I like Pugman. Definitely Pugman. Speaking of nihilism. I once tried to question everything. I ended up with "Why should I be happy? --->To function properly---->Why?" Today I made the leap of "Well, if everything is fundamentally meaningless I might as well go with whatever is the most fun." Sooo... that was interesting, to me. Weird. When depression forces me into nihilism I usualy come to the conclusion that fun is irrelevant. Sometimes I also have some stray thoughts considering if it is better to be happy or to leave your mark and look good while doing it.Ruin, I hate nihilism. Edited October 19, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern
Orlion Blight he/him Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 You bury nihilism in routine? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Doesn't matter, nothing means anything Hello sharders, how are your fundamentally meaningless lives? Great! I did a bunch of work that won't be noticed or appreciated in a month, ate some food to prolong my absurd existence, and laughed into the Abyss for a few minutes before I got vertigo and had to step back for a bit. 2
Delightful Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Weird. When depression forces me into nihilism I usualy come to the conclusion that fun is irrelevant. Sometimes I also have some stray thoughts considering if it is better to be happy or to leave your mark and look good while doing it. Ruin, I hate nihilism. Fun and happiness aren't the same thing. One is in the moment and situation based, the other is a positive outlook and general satisfaction in life which I believe comes from finding a purpose. 1
Delightful Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Doesn't matter, nothing means anything Great! I did a bunch of work that won't be noticed or appreciated in a month, ate some food to prolong my absurd existence, and laughed into the Abyss for a few minutes before I got vertigo and had to step back for a bit. Nervous laughter then?
Guest Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 which boils down to meaning of life questions. IS everything meaningless? How can you be sure? Does it matter? After all, if we discovered in some conclusive manner that everything was meaningless, could we change it? No. We would be forced to live out the rest of our meaningless existences in an increasingly bitter state, doomed to wither and become husks of our former selves. We might go insane. I don't believe that any person truly believes in nihilism, and it's ultimately a destructive thing for everybody involved. The modern world, with all its inventions and wonders, has not been brought about by nihilists. Though nihilism is certainly fun to think about, it's ultimately a bad path to follow. Nothing intrinsically matters. Things matter when a mind values them. We attach value and meaning to things, so when one decides that nothing matters, it only makes a difference to that one person. Mostly, nihilism is all coming from a perspective of despair (though some prominent antifoundationalists would contradict the idea of despair existing).
Delightful Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 What if we conclusively discovered that everything is meaningful? Will reply to the rest later. Just came to post this relevant image . 3
Orlion Blight he/him Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Nervous laughter then? Nah, regular laughter I live by that famous quote that I may or may not have modified: "When you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss stares back at you...and then you laugh at its stupid face and ridiculous outfit." 3
Delightful Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Nah, regular laughter I live by that famous quote that I may or may not have modified: "When you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss stares back at you...and then you laugh at its stupid face and ridiculous outfit." sounds like a boggart. 4
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 What if we conclusively discovered that everything is meaningful? Will reply to the rest later. Just came to post this relevant image . There would probably still be people who questioned the veracity of the findings, for a variety of reasons. Maybe they'd do it as a philosophical exercise, maybe out of genuine curiosity or concern, or maybe because they were just feeling in a funk that day and weren't sure if life really was as meaningful as science declared. Or they might wonder if everyone else's actions were meaningful, but theirs were too small, insignificant, or filled with mistakes to count toward anything. 1
Zathoth Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) which boils down to meaning of life questions. IS everything meaningless? How can you be sure? Well, I cant, which is what is so interesting about human existence. You could try my exercise of questioning everything and see if you end up finding meaning somewhere. Weird. When depression forces me into nihilism I usualy come to the conclusion that fun is irrelevant. Sometimes I also have some stray thoughts considering if it is better to be happy or to leave your mark and look good while doing it. Ruin, I hate nihilism. I disagree. I put (subjective) value in emotions. Fun, enjoyment, awe and all that is worth a lot. Which is why I also value art and creativity so much because it creates more complex emotions rather than just sadness or happiness. Great! I did a bunch of work that won't be noticed or appreciated in a month, ate some food to prolong my absurd existence, and laughed into the Abyss for a few minutes before I got vertigo and had to step back for a bit. Whats the point in being appreciated? XD Ah, the lovely abyss. I think Orlions point is that the universe is one gigantic absurd and incredibly hilarious joke. It just takes a bit of thought to find the comedy. Now please stop ninjaing me. Edited October 19, 2015 by Morzathoth 1
Orlion Blight he/him Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I think Orlions point is that the universe is one gigantic absurd and incredibly hilarious joke. It just takes a bit of thought to find the comedy. A bit. I find it supremely amusing that in the face of an absurd universe, humanity has the narcissistic tendency to assert and believe they are of paramount importance. Nihilism, in this sense, serves as a punchline and a means to knock Man off his hubric horse. It's also somewhat freeing. I am not "created for a purpose" and have to worry about when I don't live up to that. I can find meaning that fits with me and feels right instead of taking someone else's word that my purpose and everyone else's purpose is "X". 1
Zathoth Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) A bit. I find it supremely amusing that in the face of an absurd universe, humanity has the narcissistic tendency to assert and believe they are of paramount importance. Nihilism, in this sense, serves as a punchline and a means to knock Man off his hubric horse. It's also somewhat freeing. I am not "created for a purpose" and have to worry about when I don't live up to that. I can find meaning that fits with me and feels right instead of taking someone else's word that my purpose and everyone else's purpose is "X". I agree. You have to be careful to not have the nihilism be a source of hubris though. But everything can be a source of hubris, or so experience has told me. Exactly. And even if there was a meaning it would be easy to ask the question "Well whats the meaning of the meaning?" Edited October 19, 2015 by Morzathoth 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I find believing in a purpose is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it can easily lead to egotism, either on the part of the person believing in their own purpose or on the part of the person revealing another's purpose to them. On the other hand, it helps me when I'm feeling hopeless to believe I was made for something important. Not that I'm destined to be the leader of the free world, or even famous; rather, that my existence will be instrumental in improving the life of another person, then I can find the motivation I need to keep going when I just want to give up. 3
Mistrunner Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Is it weird that I'm really excited that I have a forum nickname? 1
Zathoth Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I find believing in a purpose is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it can easily lead to egotism, either on the part of the person believing in their own purpose or on the part of the person revealing another's purpose to them. On the other hand, it helps me when I'm feeling hopeless to believe I was made for something important. Not that I'm destined to be the leader of the free world, or even famous; rather, that my existence will be instrumental in improving the life of another person, then I can find the motivation I need to keep going when I just want to give up. There is nothing wrong with that, but my brain does not work like that. It would start questioning the point in helping others, that their existence is in the end of the day going to be forgotten, even if it didnt for a couple thousand years the sun will still end up swallowing the earth, and even if humanity survives that there is still the inevitable heat death of the universe. Not saying that helping people isnt worth it. It feels good to help others and that is the only reason I need, even if it is unreasonable. Is it weird that I'm really excited that I have a forum nickname? Not at all. How did your sleep deprivation turn out? 1
+Slowswift Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Is it weird that I'm really excited that I have a forum nickname? Nope. What is it? 1
Kestrel she/her Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 What is even happening on this thread anymore
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