TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't sure what all the mental effects of intentionally triggering one's weakness would be. What if using her weakness was reserved for times when she completely loses her sense of self and forgets who she is, in order to shock her back to reality and to herself? Perhaps she shared her weakness with Peregrine so that he would use it in extreme circumstances. The use of the weakness would dampen her powers and bring her back to herself, as well as causing her to panic (which would also remind her of who she is), and then once the weakness was removed, she could proceed in better control of herself? Let me know what you think. Also, I found this video helpful in understanding the refugee crisis, as someone who gets most of their news from social media. It does a good job of breaking things down and explaining the context in a way that is easy to understand. Apparently the EU, Australia, the US and Canada could all be doing a better job. Maybe, though I don't know why an Epic would want that, unless she wanted to stay somewhat decent. I've been getting most of my information on the crisis from Humans of New York. He's in Austria right now, interviewing refugees and posting their stories a few times a day. Horrible, heartbreaking stuff. I can't see why the US government doesn't want to take in as many of these people as we can.
Voidus Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Maybe, though I don't know why an Epic would want that, unless she wanted to stay somewhat decent. I've been getting most of my information on the crisis from Humans of New York. He's in Austria right now, interviewing refugees and posting their stories a few times a day. Horrible, heartbreaking stuff. I can't see why the US government doesn't want to take in as many of these people as we can. Sadly I can see exactly why the Australian government doesn't, it was pretty much their entire campaign platform and they still got elected so I guess unfortunately I have to accept that most Australians don't really care about refugees enough to want to help.
Comatose he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 The current Canadian Government is basically promising to enact blatant anti-Islamic policies if re-elected, and their polling numbers have been steadily improving, so Canadians aren't much better . Here's hoping we get a change in power after the election in two weeks! 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Indeed. I'm kind of jealous of her sometimes, since she says basically every song she hears is like a light show for her. And she can taste books. (By means other than licking them. ) I had her read the first page or so of Szeth's opening chapter in WoK and she said it tasted metallic. What do Obliteration's scenes like... or David's metaphors? A full thread? Hmm... probably not a good idea, unless some other people want to join in, I guess, though that wasn't my original intent in bringing this up. So I might just leave it in FFOO, using a whole lot of double-posts (though the doubleposting is part of what's bugging me.) That's where Ven's thing was going to go, after all. Mostly, I planned to have them avoid population centers for a more "quest-y" sort of journey. They'd be out in the wilderness coming across castles and whatnot, and facing off with apparitions of the Epic who's attacking Eastern Oregon. How many interesting wilderness places does Oregon have anyway? I mean it certainly isn't litered with abandoned castles in the middle of nowhere. and how big a deal would that "Epic attacking eastern Oregon" be anyway? Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't sure what all the mental effects of intentionally triggering one's weakness would be. What if using her weakness was reserved for times when she completely loses her sense of self and forgets who she is, in order to shock her back to reality and to herself? Perhaps she shared her weakness with Peregrine so that he would use it in extreme circumstances. The use of the weakness would dampen her powers and bring her back to herself, as well as causing her to panic (which would also remind her of who she is), and then once the weakness was removed, she could proceed in better control of herself? Let's see facing a highly unstable sociopath that has several skill to be applied for murder with something she absolutely hates. Honestly, sounds like the chances of her lashing out at him with leathal intent would be higher than her calming down. I'd say that using a weakness to control an Epic only really works if one of them is clearly dominating (like with Regalia and Newton).
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 What do Obliteration's scenes like... or David's metaphors? How many interesting wilderness places does Oregon have anyway? I mean it certainly isn't litered with abandoned castles in the middle of nowhere. and how big a deal would that "Epic attacking eastern Oregon" be anyway? I'll have to ask. There's actually some rather large tracts of BLM (Bureau of Land Management) land across the state, meaning it's basically untouched wilderness. There wouldn't be any abandoned castles there, but there might be an odd cabin or two built by an enterprising loner attempting to live off the land. Now, there's always the chance an Epic found this person and took over their operation or just killed them, but there's also the chance they're doing all right for themselves. As for the Epic attacking Eastern Oregon….it'd depend on how many Epics and human settlements there are scattered around. It probably wouldn't be a huge deal to Epics in the cities unless these refugees led this Epic through Corvallis or The Dalles.
Voidus Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 The current Canadian Government is basically promising to enact blatant anti-Islamic policies if re-elected, and their polling numbers have been steadily improving, so Canadians aren't much better . Here's hoping we get a change in power after the election in two weeks! Well there goes my backup plan of moving to canada. Anyone know somewhere with cold weather and at least semi-human politicians?
Comatose he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I was thinking that Legacy's weakness would be location based, since I don't have an epic with that sort of weakness yet, so Peregrine could potentially dump her there and avoid reprisal until she's come to her senses. However, I'm also open to scrapping the idea. I just thought it would be an interesting way to self regulate. If her powers make her too unstable without this control, I might just lessen the intensity of her inherited memories and attributes, and make it easier for her to maintain control, aside from right after resurrection, and after intense use of a certain skill, attribute, or memory.
Voidus Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I was thinking that Legacy's weakness would be location based, since I don't have an epic with that sort of weakness yet, so Peregrine could potentially dump her there and avoid reprisal until she's come to her senses. However, I'm also open to scrapping the idea. I just thought it would be an interesting way to self regulate. If her powers make her too unstable without this control, I might just lessen the intensity of her inherited memories and attributes, and make it easier for her to maintain control, aside from right after resurrection, and after intense use of a certain skill, attribute, or memory. You could just use some kind of reinforced habit rather than her weakness, like reading her diary to remind her who she really is or something like that.
Kobold King he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 To be honest, I'm not crazy about the idea of an Oregon game with a rigid, set plot line. To me, the entire point of this game is the crazy, unpredictable way our characters bounce off each other and propel an organically generated story along. A railroad plot goes against everything we've tried to accomplish so far, or at least it could. If you do go through with this, I'd request that you keep the plot confined to a single city before expanding it to cover all of eastern Oregon. If we ever open up a thread that covers an entire half of the state, I'd rather it be in a format that's been proven to work for us, as opposed to a format that's utterly alien to the way we've been playing the game. I admit I'm not 100% sure what's being proposed here, but consider me wary of this proposition.
Comatose he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Well there goes my backup plan of moving to canada. Anyone know somewhere with cold weather and at least semi-human politicians? We do have some semi-human (emphasis on semi) politicians. They just haven't been elected in a while. I'll keep you posted though about the upcoming federal election on the 19th, since things could get better after that. We definitely have the cold weather down though! The diary idea has merit, I'll keep workshopping it.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Well there goes my backup plan of moving to canada. Anyone know somewhere with cold weather and at least semi-human politicians? How about the North- and/or South Pole? 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 How about the North- and/or South Pole? Penguins would probably do a better job of governing than most politicians. And they'd do it adorably. 1
Voidus Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 How about the North- and/or South Pole? Penguins would probably do a better job of governing than most politicians. And they'd do it adorably. Once I finally finish my degree if I ever get the chance to do research in Antarctica I will jump at it. Freezing cold, penguins, auroras and very few people? It would remove basically every form of anxiety I have. Although I'd probably develop some form of anxiety about freezing to death pretty quickly.
Mckeedee123 he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 How many interesting wilderness places does Oregon have anyway? I mean it certainly isn't litered with abandoned castles in the middle of nowhere. and how big a deal would that "Epic attacking eastern Oregon" be anyway? There's actually some rather large tracts of BLM (Bureau of Land Management) land across the state, meaning it's basically untouched wilderness. There wouldn't be any abandoned castles there, but there might be an odd cabin or two built by an enterprising loner attempting to live off the land. Now, there's always the chance an Epic found this person and took over their operation or just killed them, but there's also the chance they're doing all right for themselves. As for the Epic attacking Eastern Oregon….it'd depend on how many Epics and human settlements there are scattered around. It probably wouldn't be a huge deal to Epics in the cities unless these refugees led this Epic through Corvallis or The Dalles. Yeah, I know that there isn't too much interesting stuff out there right now, but part of the fun of this concept to me is experimenting with just how crazy the wilderness of a post-Calamity Oregon could get. All of that stuff would be a result of the Epic Apocalypse. To be honest, I'm not crazy about the idea of an Oregon game with a rigid, set plot line. To me, the entire point of this game is the crazy, unpredictable way our characters bounce off each other and propel an organically generated story along. A railroad plot goes against everything we've tried to accomplish so far, or at least it could. If you do go through with this, I'd request that you keep the plot confined to a single city before expanding it to cover all of eastern Oregon. If we ever open up a thread that covers an entire half of the state, I'd rather it be in a format that's been proven to work for us, as opposed to a format that's utterly alien to the way we've been playing the game. I admit I'm not 100% sure what's being proposed here, but consider me wary of this proposition. Right. I wasn't really asking for a separate thread for this or anything, it would just be a subplot written by me, similar to Paladin in The Dalles thread, and I was wondering where it would go. Probably FF's, as even though I was intending for it to be canon, that's where Ven's thing went. I was planning to keep it pretty self-contained, so don't worry. The Epic in question would be a powerful projector, capable of creating tangible versions of himself with different, random Epic powers, and he'd be expanding out of Idaho mostly eastward, but sort of westward. The characters don't know how far he's come, though, so they avoid cities.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) To be honest, I'm not crazy about the idea of an Oregon game with a rigid, set plot line. To me, the entire point of this game is the crazy, unpredictable way our characters bounce off each other and propel an organically generated story along. A railroad plot goes against everything we've tried to accomplish so far, or at least it could. If you do go through with this, I'd request that you keep the plot confined to a single city before expanding it to cover all of eastern Oregon. If we ever open up a thread that covers an entire half of the state, I'd rather it be in a format that's been proven to work for us, as opposed to a format that's utterly alien to the way we've been playing the game. I admit I'm not 100% sure what's being proposed here, but consider me wary of this proposition. Knowing that Twilyght proposing WHIO was the first exposure to freeform RPGs that this forum had mean I don't know your experience on role playing, but I've played in a few story based games and they tend to work when the story is a bit vague. Things like: Two nations, one war. The nation of Koboldia and the nation of Cadencor have been at war for three generations, but an opportunity to end the war has presented itself. The King of Koboldia and his four daughters, and the Queen of Cadencor and her four sons, have announced that the princes and princesses are to wed, in the hopes that the unions will result in at least one stable relationship, and that the nations might finally end this war. But not all citizens would like for the war to end. In a political environment of unrest and distrust, with enemies lurking around every corner, can the two nations find the peace they are so desperate to claim? Players would then control various characters, with eight to twelve pre-made characters ready to be adopted. The story exists, but it's vague enough that the players can introduce their own twists, and have control over the endings of their characters. I've also seen role-plays with much more rigid stories, and have even participated in one that went very well. So it's doable, and even enjoyable, so long as all the players understand the story that they are progressing. I don't think that's what is being discussed though. It sounds to me that Mckeedee wants to tell a story about a bunch of characters that he controls, but he wants to use the WHIO universe as the canon background to the story. My two cents, I think it belongs in the Fanfictions of Oregon thread, considering we might want to use eastern Oregon later on. Once we begin Eugene, using the final major city, we're still capable of branching further should we choose to do so, so I don't think we should eat up all that real estate for just one person's characters. Edit: Ninja'd Edited October 6, 2015 by Blaze1616
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I don't think that's what is being discussed though. It sounds to me that Mckeedee wants to tell a story about a bunch of characters that he controls, but he wants to use the WHIO universe as the canon background to the story. My two cents, I think it belongs in the Fanfictions of Oregon thread, considering we might want to use eastern Oregon later on. Once we begin Eugene, using the final major city, we're still capable of branching further should we choose to do so, so I don't think we should eat up all that real estate for just one person's characters. Edit: Ninja'd Pretty much this, yeah. How do I phrase this... This is a group effort. If you want to do your own thing seperate from everyone else, then do your own thing seperate from everyone else. And I really do mean seperate as in will not influence anybody else in any way. I know that something similair happend with Palladin but 1)That was before we really reached the critical mass point of needing several cities so circumstances were different and I wouldn't really want something like that happen again either. 2)It was fully contained in one location, meaning it took up relatively little space and had no larger implications. 3)At least Paladin was supposed to play into the Dalles and not just be its own thing. 1
Mckeedee123 he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Knowing that Twilyght proposing WHIO was the first exposure to freeform RPGs that this forum had mean I don't know your experience on role playing, but I've played in a few story based games and they tend to work when the story is a bit vague. Things like: Two nations, one war. The nation of Koboldia and the nation of Cadencor have been at war for three generations, but an opportunity to end the war has presented itself. The King of Koboldia and his four daughters, and the Queen of Cadencor and her four sons, have announced that the princes and princesses are to wed, in the hopes that the unions will result in at least one stable relationship, and that the nations might finally end this war. But not all citizens would like for the war to end. In a political environment of unrest and distrust, with enemies lurking around every corner, can the two nations find the peace they are so desperate to claim? Players would then control various characters, with eight to twelve pre-made characters ready to be adopted. The story exists, but it's vague enough that the players can introduce their own twists, and have control over the endings of their characters. I've also seen role-plays with much more rigid stories, and have even participated in one that went very well. So it's doable, and even enjoyable, so long as all the players understand the story that they are progressing. I don't think that's what is being discussed though. It sounds to me that Mckeedee wants to tell a story about a bunch of characters that he controls, but he wants to use the WHIO universe as the canon background to the story. My two cents, I think it belongs in the Fanfictions of Oregon thread, considering we might want to use eastern Oregon later on. Once we begin Eugene, using the final major city, we're still capable of branching further should we choose to do so, so I don't think we should eat up all that real estate for just one person's characters. Edit: Ninja'd Pretty much this, yeah. How do I phrase this... This is a group effort. If you want to do your own thing seperate from everyone else, then do your own thing seperate from everyone else. And I really do mean seperate as in will not influence anybody else in any way. I know that something similair happend with Palladin but 1)That was before we really reached the critical mass point of needing several cities so circumstances were different and I wouldn't really want something like that happen again either. 2)It was fully contained in one location, meaning it took up relatively little space and had no larger implications. 3)At least Paladin was supposed to play into the Dalles and not just be its own thing. Yes and yes. Don't worry, I understand exactly what everyone's been saying. I'm not trying to start a new thread, control the broader fate of Oregon, or set canon for any city or region not yet created. This is a very self-contained thing about a small town on the very edge of the state, with one or two interactions with my own characters as it travels primarily through the woods. I never imagined it as anything else. Edited October 6, 2015 by Mckeedee123
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I decided to reread Alloy first, but I misjudged how much time I'd have for reading this week and so I'm only halfway through Alloy. Hopefully I can start Shadows by tomorrow, but I'll be avoiding the spoiler board for a few days.
Blackhoof Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 The Cornucopia/Atrophy plotline is fine with me. Swert What do you think, Voidus? Well at one point I think the UN was investigating a refugee camp as a potential violation of the convention against torture. So yeah. Well the Prime Minister just got replaced so hopefully something might change but it's the same party calling the shots so I doubt much will. And the other party isn't much better. As a member of the Labor Party (the other party) I am also disappointed by the policies that my party has stuck to. However, they have promised better oversight of the detention centres, and a doubling of our humanitarian intake, so I am comfortable in supporting them over the Liberal Party. Bad things with some good bits are better than bad things with no good bits, after all. Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't sure what all the mental effects of intentionally triggering one's weakness would be. What if using her weakness was reserved for times when she completely loses her sense of self and forgets who she is, in order to shock her back to reality and to herself? Perhaps she shared her weakness with Peregrine so that he would use it in extreme circumstances. The use of the weakness would dampen her powers and bring her back to herself, as well as causing her to panic (which would also remind her of who she is), and then once the weakness was removed, she could proceed in better control of herself? Let me know what you think. Also, I found this video helpful in understanding the refugee crisis, as someone who gets most of their news from social media. It does a good job of breaking things down and explaining the context in a way that is easy to understand. Apparently the EU, Australia, the US and Canada could all be doing a better job. as others have said, I'm not sure this would work well. Given how Epics have reacted with their weaknesses in the past, I'd think she would be incredibly wary and paranoid about giving her weakness to anyone. Epics aren't known to be trustworthy after all. She is essentially giving him complete power over her. At any point he could kill her for good by using her weakness, and I can't see any Epic really tolerating that hanging over them, unless they have no choice, or are being otherwise dominated. Like Newton for instance, who couldn't really escape Babilar and Regalia even if she wanted to. 1
Voidus Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Swert What do you think, Voidus? As a member of the Labor Party (the other party) I am also disappointed by the policies that my party has stuck to. However, they have promised better oversight of the detention centres, and a doubling of our humanitarian intake, so I am comfortable in supporting them over the Liberal Party. Bad things with some good bits are better than bad things with no good bits, after all. as others have said, I'm not sure this would work well. Given how Epics have reacted with their weaknesses in the past, I'd think she would be incredibly wary and paranoid about giving her weakness to anyone. Epics aren't known to be trustworthy after all. She is essentially giving him complete power over her. At any point he could kill her for good by using her weakness, and I can't see any Epic really tolerating that hanging over them, unless they have no choice, or are being otherwise dominated. Like Newton for instance, who couldn't really escape Babilar and Regalia even if she wanted to. Sounds good then, any ideas for justifications? I tend to vote labor too but more because I really don't want to vote liberal than any sense of supporting the labor party.
Blackhoof Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Sounds good then, any ideas for justifications? I tend to vote labor too but more because I really don't want to vote liberal than any sense of supporting the labor party. I suggested an idea a few pages back, but it must have gotten lost amid all the chatter Firstly, he mildly wants to thank her for maintaining all the trees and greenery around Corvallis, so he can have a nice view. For an actual reason, what if she asks/demands his help in subduing the ghouls that she has captured? Obviously she has them well restrained now, but in order to move and study them it would certainly be safer to have Atrophy around, weakening or outright killing their arm, leg and mouth muscles. Do the Greens appeal to you at all, then? Thanks to our preferential voting system we can vote for whomever we like without the vote going to waste! yay!
Voidus Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I suggested an idea a few pages back, but it must have gotten lost amid all the chatter Firstly, he mildly wants to thank her for maintaining all the trees and greenery around Corvallis, so he can have a nice view. For an actual reason, what if she asks/demands his help in subduing the ghouls that she has captured? Obviously she has them well restrained now, but in order to move and study them it would certainly be safer to have Atrophy around, weakening or outright killing their arm, leg and mouth muscles. Do the Greens appeal to you at all, then? Thanks to our preferential voting system we can vote for whomever we like without the vote going to waste! yay! Sounds pretty plausible, given how much damage was likely done to her fields she has some justification for dealing with the matter personally too. She'll probably ask someone nearby to get in touch with 'that skeleton man, Apathy or whatever it was' and then head over to pick him up if that sounds good to you? Yeah more so than any of the other major parties but I don't completely agree with their policies either (Mostly relating to GMOs since that's basically my future career) Still better than labor or liberals though, at least they treat people like actual human beings.
Blackhoof Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Sounds pretty plausible, given how much damage was likely done to her fields she has some justification for dealing with the matter personally too. She'll probably ask someone nearby to get in touch with 'that skeleton man, Apathy or whatever it was' and then head over to pick him up if that sounds good to you? Yeah more so than any of the other major parties but I don't completely agree with their policies either (Mostly relating to GMOs since that's basically my future career) Still better than labor or liberals though, at least they treat people like actual human beings. haha sounds good. Want to take it to PM now to plan their interactions, or just eave the PMing until you've made the post where she sends for him? Yeah I don't agree with the anti-GMO stance they take either. Edited October 7, 2015 by Blackhoof
Voidus Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) haha sounds good. Want to take it to PM now to plan their interactions, or just eave the PMing until you've made the post where she sends for him? Yeah I don't agree with the anti-GMO stance they take either. Probably leave it for now and see whether or not we'd need it, unless there are going to be secret plans of some kind forged there's not really much need for it to be dealt with in pm. Or if we need a collab post I suppose. Edit: Also random Meliability post for Salem wherin a goth-loli with a giant scythe contemplates gravity while turning bullets into a tiara. Edited October 7, 2015 by Voidus
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