Yata he/him Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, Rawrbert said: Could a Spren become a Vessel? we have a similar WoB. Quote Q: Could a sentient invested object take up a shard? A: Highly unlikely, probably impossible--but impossibility is hard to judge link A sentient invested object is in the end an artificial Spren...therefore the WoB may (probably) apply also to Splinters (like Spren)
Oversleep Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 In the prologue to the Hero Of Ages, Marsh is using a brass spike when spiking the Keeper. Why brass? It would allow to steal only Feruchemical Mental powers and none of them seem particularly important to killing machines the Inquisitors are. Surely Feruchemical healing, or speed, or strength or even age would be more desirable power to steal?
Dunkum he/him Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Oversleep said: In the prologue to the Hero Of Ages, Marsh is using a brass spike when spiking the Keeper. Why brass? It would allow to steal only Feruchemical Mental powers and none of them seem particularly important to killing machines the Inquisitors are. Surely Feruchemical healing, or speed, or strength or even age would be more desirable power to steal? wakefulness or warmth might be useful. an inquisitor who doesn't need to sleep or one who can go into the coldest parts of the world without worry might be useful. could also just be because they want the inquisitor to have a source of brass on hand for soothing.
Oversleep Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) If a spike was covered in blood - stopping the Hemalurgic decay - and then split into smaller spikes, would there be power loss or not? EDIT: Let's say the splitting took place in a bathtub full of blood, so that the spikes would be covered in blood at all times. Edited September 17, 2016 by Oversleep
marsoupial they/them Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Oversleep said: If a spike was covered in blood - stopping the Hemalurgic decay - and then split into smaller spikes, would there be power loss or not? All the mini-spikes would definitely not have the same amount of power as the original, but there would, I would assume, not be a net loss of power. The size of the spike doesn't matter, as seen in Hero of Ages, but I could be wrong. How would one split said original spike, when it's coated in blood, though?
Oversleep Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, bleeder said: All the mini-spikes would definitely not have the same amount of power as the original, but there would, I would assume, not be a net loss of power. The size of the spike doesn't matter, as seen in Hero of Ages, but I could be wrong. That's not what the question is about We know that "spikes which are physically broken into several pieces will split the charge into the broken pieces, and more Hemalurgic power will be lost when spikes are split". So apart from the fragmentation there is additional loss of power. However, we know that covering the spike in blood stops the Hemalurgic decay (we do not know the details but it's a working method). The question is what happens when you do both of these things?
The One Who Connects he/him Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Oversleep said: We know that "spikes which are physically broken into several pieces will split the charge into the broken pieces, and more Hemalurgic power will be lost when spikes are split". So apart from the fragmentation there is additional loss of power. However, we know that covering the spike in blood stops the Hemalurgic decay (we do not know the details but it's a working method). The question is what happens when you do both of these things? I imagine there would be greatly reduced power loss from the blood coating, but the new "edges" created by splitting the spike wouldn't be covered by blood at all, and would let out some power. Its still probably worth asking, as the blood coating may negate this through magical fine print.
Oversleep Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, The One Who Connects said: the new "edges" created by splitting the spike wouldn't be covered by blood at all, and would let out some power I'm changing the question so that splitting the spike takes place in a bathtub full of blood. Now every edge will be covered by blood at any given time. More questions: Could an Elantrian make a typewriter but with Aons instead of letters? Would typing on that Aonwriter produce effects as drawing Aons does? Would drawing Aons in Paint qualify for AonDor? Edited September 17, 2016 by Oversleep
ScarletSabre he/him Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 When a Feruchemist stores age/youth, how does it work if he doesn't use it? For example, if a Feruchemist, aged 50, stored youth to the point he then appeared/was 90, and then stopped, and reverted to 50 again, could he then live to 90 and then use the stored youth? Or would his lifespan be shortened by the youth/age stored in the metalmind?
The One Who Connects he/him Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Questions about Lift this time: Warning, there are more than I first expected. Would Lift's food to Stormlight ability still function if she lost the ability to Surgebind? If yes, can she do anything with that power? Does Lift's food to Stormlight ability turn food into investiture, or specifically into Stormlight form? Would Lift increasing her friction with the air (wind resistance/drag) reduce her velocity and let her survive a fall? Since Lift exists partially in the Cognitive Realm, can she see into it at all? If yes, can she see into it more often/easily than others? Would existing partially in the Cognitive Realm make it easier for her to Soulcast/Elsecall if she had access to those powers? Each order has a unique aspect (Windrunner squires, Lightweaver memory, etc..) Have we seen the Edgedancer trait in the Lift Interlude? Edit: Another one: Can Lift use her "awesomeness" to slick other objects, or just herself? Edited September 19, 2016 by The One Who Connects
Oversleep Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Rawrbert said: When a Feruchemist stores age/youth, how does it work if he doesn't use it? For example, if a Feruchemist, aged 50, stored youth to the point he then appeared/was 90, and then stopped, and reverted to 50 again, could he then live to 90 and then use the stored youth? Or would his lifespan be shortened by the youth/age stored in the metalmind? Atium Feruchemy does not influence the length of the lifespan (unless Compounding). You could use the stored youth at 90. ... After some thought, it could increase the length of the life a little: If you spend some time in your youth being 90 years old, then at the end of your life, at the point you die of old age, you could use that youth to be a little younger and live a little longer. 1
Yata he/him Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) When multiple people are taken by the Shaod in the same night...Did their trasformations/initiations happen at the same time ? Or they are spread all night long Edited September 19, 2016 by Yata
Darkness he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Excluding the stuff happening on Sel, can people that are normally able to use magic (surgebinders, awakeners, feruchemists, mistings, etc.), actively use their magical ability in all 3 realms? For example, could a soother soothe someone if they were both in the cognitive realm and he had access to his metal? Could they be in the cognitive and sooth someone in the physical? Or vice versa? Is their magic any stronger or weaker if they are in another realm? A simpler way to ask this might be; what would be the affect of a pewterarm burning pewter while in the cognitive realm?
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Did Sel's moon(s) have anything to do with Sel's processes for magic Initiation?
ScarletSabre he/him Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 Is there a planet in the Cosmere that would have a new metal for Allomancers to burn? For example, if we were on Yolen and Dragonsteel was a separate metal with unique properties, would it be Allomantically Inert or have a new effect outside of those already planned for the Godmetal alloys of the normal 16 metals?
The One Who Connects he/him Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Rawrbert said: Is there a planet in the Cosmere that would have a new metal for Allomancers to burn? For example, if we were on Yolen and Dragonsteel was a separate metal with unique properties, would it be Allomantically Inert or have a new effect outside of those already planned for the Godmetal alloys of the normal 16 metals? As far as we are aware, its just the base 16, the God Metals and their alloys. New God Metals (and alloys) would need a shard to invest on Scadrial first. The only counter would be if Yolen had a variant of Allomancy Pre-Shattering. But then the magic system might/would work differently and other stuff..
ScarletSabre he/him Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 4 hours ago, The One Who Connects said: As far as we are aware, its just the base 16, the God Metals and their alloys. New God Metals (and alloys) would need a shard to invest on Scadrial first. The only counter would be if Yolen had a variant of Allomancy Pre-Shattering. But then the magic system might/would work differently and other stuff.. New Godmetals would need to be invested in Scadrial (Aside from Trellium...) , but what I mean is, is there a planet in the Cosmere with a metal completely alien to anything in the periodic and Allomantic table, which would then have an Allomantic effect? We have WOB that base metals like steel or brass from Roshar or Sel can be used by Allomancers so being invested in Scadrial doesn't matter aside from Godmetals... ...... I just realised that Trellium is technically already an answer to my question xD
Dunkum he/him Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Rawrbert said: New Godmetals would need to be invested in Scadrial (Aside from Trellium...) , but what I mean is, is there a planet in the Cosmere with a metal completely alien to anything in the periodic and Allomantic table, which would then have an Allomantic effect? We have WOB that base metals like steel or brass from Roshar or Sel can be used by Allomancers so being invested in Scadrial doesn't matter aside from Godmetals... ...... I just realised that Trellium is technically already an answer to my question xD are we certain that Trellium is not just another godmetal?
Oversleep Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, Dunkum said: are we certain that Trellium is not just another godmetal? Nope. Not at all. @Rawrbert, where are you drawing the conclusion that Trellium is not a godmetal from?
ScarletSabre he/him Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Oversleep said: Nope. Not at all. @Rawrbert, where are you drawing the conclusion that Trellium is not a godmetal from? Oh no, I wasn't concluding Trellium isn't a Godmetal, just that it IS an alien metal with unknown effects for Allomancers, that as far as we know isn't a metal we've seen on any planet like steel, iron, bendalloy etc. As for whether it's a Godmetal or not... would Trell be able to invest in Scadrial to create it with Harmony's red haze shield/interference? Because if Trell couldn't, then couldn't it be a Godmetal?
Yata he/him Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, Rawrbert said: Oh no, I wasn't concluding Trellium isn't a Godmetal, just that it IS an alien metal with unknown effects for Allomancers, that as far as we know isn't a metal we've seen on any planet like steel, iron, bendalloy etc. As for whether it's a Godmetal or not... would Trell be able to invest in Scadrial to create it with Harmony's red haze shield/interference? Because if Trell couldn't, then couldn't it be a Godmetal? The topic is more complex but actually "trell" has not need of invest directly on Scadrial to create a godmetal...He/she/it may invest in an meteor with an inner trellium core and send among the cosmere to hit Scadrial. He need to made "certain thing" (that I actually don't know) to made his metal integrated with the people and for exampe made possible a Trellium Misting or Trellium Ferring....But until now we see his effect only through Hemalurgy, a magic art who don't need a specific sDNA to be used
ScarletSabre he/him Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 Ah, fair enough then, I wasn't aware it was more complex than simply having to invest in Scadrial itself.... so to pose another question, which I'm sure has already been asked; Did the 17th Shard exist before the events of The Final Empire? If not, was Kelsier their founder? I LOVE the idea of him going around the Cosmere recruiting people in his Kelsier-esque way. I picture a montage of Kel going around planet to planet, just appearing with a grin in front of Demoux and Galladon, and conning or convincing them to join a Cosmere wide crew ^-^
Oversleep Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 A question (not mine): TLR genetically engineered people to survive in world full of ash and plants which were not as nutritional as they should. What did Hoid do to adapt to Scadrial? Since he was there long periods of time when he led Terris refugees. Did he just heal constantly? What did other worldhoppers do?
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Was the chasm and as a by-product, the Reod, the result of the Dor condensing too much/ (and developing some limited sense of a mind) in the Spiritual Realm (as both Aona and Skai are dead), causing the barrier between the Spiritual and Cogntive to crack under the immense pressure, thereby as a domino effect, disrupting the balance between the Physical and Cognitive Realms? Edited September 24, 2016 by AnanasSpren
Yata he/him Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, AnanasSpren said: Was the chasm and as a by-product, the Reod, the result of the Dor condensing too much/ (and developing some limited sense of a mind) in the Spiritual Realm (as both Aona and Skai are dead), causing the barrier between the Spiritual and Cogntive to crack under the immense pressure, thereby as a domino effect, disrupting the balance between the Physical and Cognitive Realms? First of all the Dor is in the Cognitive Realm (if someone will have to ask this question it would avoid some weird trick by mister sanderson) and probably his concentration may be a problem there...while the Spiritual Realm is quite location-indipendent and may easy contain the whole Investiture of all the Shards without problem. Anyway it's possible there is some Realmatic reason for the Chasm but I find it unlikely for a couple of reason: - This kind of situation isn't reported somewhere else on Sel. It's strange it will happen in the Arelon...the only country where the Dor is a stable release valve (Elantris, the Elantrian and all the AonDor uses) - If there is a risk of something like that and this mean it was in some measure predictable by Realmatic Aware people. The older Elantrian would probably put effort to avoid it.
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