Mid-Range Game 8: Highborn Intrigue

[Seonid he/him]

Ah. Gotcha. Wait...when you say Alvorn, do you mean Alvom? Because I thought you meant Alvron, who was killed a few cycles back. If that's the case, then I actually think I agree with your suspicions, although I still think there are better targets than him (like Haelbarde). But if we catch one Eliminator, we have a little more breathing space.

[Renegade he/him]

Gamma - not active enough to get a read on. I have lingering suspicions, due to his performance in the last quick fix, but nothing definite. Undecided, leaning towards Eliminator, but could easily not be. I want your analysis, though, and I want it this cycle. I will request an extension until I get it.

 

I pretty much already auto-extended this turn to 48 hours, but seeing as this is only an MR (and is getting fairly long at this point), I won't accept any further extensions from that, or during the Night.

[Seonid he/him]

Fair enough, Ren. I was mostly joking with my whole "request extensions until I get my analysis" shtick, but it's good to know that we're already extended. I wish more people would talk. Even if I haven't been a shining example in that regard.

[Paranoid King he/him]

Oh. Oh, it is AlvoM. Gosh. And all this time I was thinking about how irrational is is to have two players in this game with only one letter switch separating them.

[Adamir he/him]

I don't have enough suspects, and so I'll jump onto whomever Seonid votes for, as the only person I can 97.5% confirm as a villager. Haelbarde.

[Macen he/him]

Well, I guess I was wrong about Araris. So I will refrain from voting for a bit.

[Seonid he/him]

I'd rather you vote wrongly than not at all. Even wrong votes get discussion started again. With an extended cycle, we even have enough time for a decent discussion. But that only works if people talk!

[Paranoid King he/him]

Well, looks like the public opinion is leaning towards Haelebarde. As I want to make sure someone gets lynched, I'm moving my vote from Alvom to Hael.

[Haelbarde he/him]

Adamir - Has seemed to be relatively useful for the village. Gut feeling still begs me to be suspicious of him. Would put about a 65% confidence of him being village.

 

Alvom - While again, he seems to have contributed analysis and discussion, more so than Adamir, I still can't quite shake the thought that he's doing the controlling Eliminator in the center of the village style game. 60% of being good.

 

Paranoid King - While often times his votes seem to be fairly arbitrary, and he seems to be more active in LG14 than MR8, the votes he's actually made, and my gut feeling would make me tend towards believing him to be a villager: 75%

 

TheMightyLopen - I suggested 3 couriers, with 1 being a Conspirator. We've 2 dead noble couriers, so by that logic, I'd suggest Conspirator, but that's not the feel I've been getting from him. I'd put him at about 65-70% likelihood of being Villager

 

The rest will come later - want to get stuff written for LG14 first.

[Shallan she/her]

Vote tally:

0   Alvom Halbin(we can just add the second name if distinguishing is needed): Paranoid King(1)

3   Haelbarde: Paranoid King(2), Adamir, Seonid

 

I don't really know what else to say right now. We still have a full day + 2 hours left in the cycle, so hopefully the people who haven't been on will at least be on the Shard. I'll check right now their last time being on this website... (I realized that these would have been EST, so I will just put how many hours ago.)

Orlok: 7.5 hours since last on

Venture Mistborn: 19.5 hours since last on

Feligon: 16 days, 19 hours since last on

SilverDragon: 10 days, 7 hours since last on

 

So I'll assume we can eliminate(hahahaha) Feligon and SilverDragon as Eliminators, since they just haven't been on at all, but Feligon and Orlok (and Bort) have been on but haven't posted. I hate to say it, but does anyone know where I can find a Contribution Crusade banner?

Bort: (missed him the first time around) 14 hours since last on

Edited September 12, 2015 by Shallan

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Wow. Actually a pretty good amount of discussion today! I will say that I have been suspicious of Haelbarde for a while, but I can't say it's based on anything very conclusive. Mostly just what Seonid said about not really posting much and him defending Hero somewhat. What I find interesting is PK's switch to Hael from Alvom(we could call you Vom like Maill called you in LG14 if you don't mind Alvom). He states the public opinion is leaning towards Hael so he votes for him, but really Seonid is the only one who has voiced suspicions of Hael this cycle. Adamir just said he believes Seonid to be innocent so he voted for him without giving reasons and now you do the same. Last cycle you said you were 95% sure Alvom was guilty, and at the start of this cycle you say you're suspicions have been confirmed and you're twice as sure Alvom is guilty. There is still a lot of this cycle left, so why if you're so sure that Alvom is guilty did you not even try to convince everyone of his guilt? Instead you just bandwagon on Hael, stating that you want the lynch to go through. Bandwagoning right now seems like a very bad idea. So far today you've voted twice without giving adequate reasons, would you care to elaborate on your suspicions?

 

Shallan, I agree with you that Feligon and SilverDragon are probably not eliminators since they haven't been on in so long. Also, I sent a message to Venture asking him to participate a little. He looked at the message but he never replied so I don't know what's up with him. Bort I believe is innocent, especially since he said he was leaving the game. Now, Orlok I would like to hear more from. He has been on but hasn't posted for a while.

 

Right now, my suspicions are all messed up. I suspect Adamir for going after Araris like that and it doesn't seem to me like he has been very helpful, but then he goes and votes on Haelbarde who I also suspect.

 

Haelbarde doesn't have very much evidence against him, but he has voted for Winter and Sart and was on the wrong side about Hero. However, he has almost no evidence for him. Basically the only thing positive about him in my mind is that early on he said Hero seemed more suspicious for putting the first vote on Phat then I did for putting the last vote on him, and that he's been trusting of me pretty much throughout the game. I can't tell if that's because he knows I'm innocent so he's trying to get on my good side or he's being sincere and truly thinks my play so far points to me being good. Really these points aren't particularly valid for everyone else since they kind of center on me being innocent but that's why I haven't pushed for a lynch on him yet.

 

I will say that my suspicion on Gamma has risen considerably for his vote on me last cycle and that he is a very good player and it seems like the eliminators would go after him since he seems like he would be the most dangerous Noble we have left.

 

Macen is also suspicious to me for his constant voting on Araris which was only based on dead people's apprehension of him, and for being very quiet this whole game.

 

I agree with Seonid about Shallan. I believe she is most likely innocent.

 

Now, I have questions for Adamir and Haelbarde:

Adamir, what makes you say that Seonid is 97.5% likely to be a villager?

Hael, in what way has Adamir seemed relatively useful to the village?

 

Well, this is getting long and I still haven't voted. As much as I fussed at PK for voting for Hael I would be okay with him getting lynched, but I don't want to kill conversation when we still have a little while till the end of the cycle so I'm gonna put my vote on Macen. You say you're going to refrain from voting because you were wrong about Araris, but how does that help us? You have been very uninformative in your posts and accusations.

 

Edit: Oh yeah, I'd like to apologize for not getting on until this late. My internet has been down all day but it's back now so no worries. 

Edited September 12, 2015 by TheMightyLopen

[Paranoid King he/him]

Hael's on my suspicions list too. I'm okay with either of them being lynched, and I figure I would rather get one of my suspects lynched than start competing with the other suspect. That sort of thing tends to lead to a tie.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Okay, that's understandable, but mostly I'd like to hear your reasons for suspecting Alvom and Hael. 

[Paranoid King he/him]

Well, I wrote down who voted for who each cycle, looked at the list, and picked out the most suspicious people. I did the same to determine who was innocent. Alv and Hael were possible suspects before Araris was killed, mostly because his voting patterns made him seem like he was a good guy. After Araris was killed, I was even more sure that Alv was a conspirator, because I now knew for sure that Araris was good. Hael had been a suspect all along.

Edited September 12, 2015 by Paranoid King

[Herowannabe he/him]

I hate to say it, but does anyone know where I can find a Contribution Crusade banner?

 

 

 

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[TheMightyLopen he/him]

A dead man is the last person that's posted, and that was almost 20 hours ago. We had some good discussion going yesterday, what happened? I'm fine with Hael being lynched, but that doesn't mean we have to stop talking does it? Gamma, Orlok, and Alvom haven't even posted this cycle, Haelbarde and Macen haven't voted, and the inactives are still inactive. I guess everyone's having a busy weekend.(Except me) I guess we didn't even need an extended Day cycle this time, since we "decided" on a lynch pretty fast. I think I'm just worried since no one has defended Hael, but he didn't even try to defend himself so I don't know what to think.

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

Wish I could have gotten on sooner to be able to actually post something, although it looks like the votes are already in Hael's favor with seemingly no opposition, so not really sure what to make of that. So I could either bandwagon on the vote and make it a run away, but I'll instead just put a vote on Alvom for now. I've had a gut feeling about them since re-reading through the earlier thread, and it seems like other people have too, just there's never been a follow through on the lynch for them yet. Which is something we should probably start doing??? How many tied or shardplate lynches have their been? And how many times have people just moved on to other targets the next cycle? If people were up for the lynch, being the most suspected players at the time, then why do we just ignore them afterwards?

[Renegade he/him]

1 hour to go!  Get your votes in, and get 'em in soon, 'cause this won't last long!

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I believe there has been 2 Shardplate lynches and 1 or maybe 2 tied ones. I thought we were going to follow through with Adamir but that didn't happen.

 

Edit: Just looked through, Raven was lynched and had Shardplate and then assassinated and Adamir was lynched and had Shardplate and then nothing since, and there was indeed 2 tied lynches. The first one was Hero, Araris, and Alvom with 2 votes each I believe and the 2nd one was Alvom and Lopen(me) with 2 votes each. So that means we've actually only lynched 4 people so far, with Hael being the fifth.

Edited September 13, 2015 by TheMightyLopen

[Seonid he/him]

I'm ok with lynching Alvom too, but haelbarde was my top suspicion. Alvom was my next suggestion. Honestly though, I'm a little worried. The fact that no one has said anything is suspicious.

I'd expect the eliminators to have tried to vote for someone else if hael was guilty. Too late at this point, though.

[Renegade he/him]

The day is over (and has been for 3 minutes )!  Write-up coming shortly!

[Renegade he/him]

Night 10: De-scribed

“Another death,” Draela Heb sighed, writing down a few words in her personal notebook; a log of all of the events since the dinner of doom.  “At this point, I feel that there is little reason to be surprised.”

Caesarae snorted.  “Of course you’d think that… because you’re the one making those kills!”

Owain put his head in his hands.  “Here we go again… each day, we’re always just accusing someone almost arbitrarily.  Shouldn’t we come up with a better system or something?”

“Nah,” Rengar said from behind all of the gathered nobles.  It was almost midday now, and they were all gathered just outside of Dalinar’s warcamp, as usual.  Unlike yesterday, it was mostly cloudy out, and most of the Shattered Plains were covered in shade.

“Didn’t Dalinar fire you?” Draela Heb asked, pointing her pen at the crazy executioner.

“No,” Rengar said, seeming slightly taken aback by the statement.  “Dalinar allowed me a second chance.  As long as I tell him who to execute beforehand.  Which I have decided to do by bringing him here myself!”

The nobles gasped silently as the mighty Blackthorn himself rode into the circle of the nobles, flanked by two members of the Cobalt Guard.  Dalinar was in his slate-gray Shardplate, riding atop Gallant.  The Ryshadium whinnied as Dalinar stopped.  The nobles stood silently around him, staring at him, but hoping that he would not return the stare.

“Half of you,” Dalinar announced, boldly and firmly, “are dead.  It is a fact that I believe you should be aware of.”  Some of the lighteyes nodded slowly at this, struggling to remain calm and comprehend the highprince’s words.  “It has been nearly two weeks, and yet you’ve only found two of these conspirators.  If you fail to apprehend them soon, all of you will no doubt be dead.  Understand?”

“Highprince Kholin,” Eradin spoke softly.  “I believe that Brightness Draela Heb may be one of these conspirators.”

“What?” Draela asked incredulously, her face reddening in embarrassment and rage.  “I have been working under Brightness Katara’s employment until several days ago, and…”

“Irrelevant,” Eradin said, waving a hand dismissively.  “In fact, that makes me more suspicious of how you were able to outwit her fabrial system.  Plus, there’s the fact that you should’ve known who she was guarding that night.”

“She did not tell me…”

“I agree,” Sheon Idris said.  “This evidence adds up rather conveniently, I’m afraid.  Either you’re a conspirator, or luck is just really not in my favor.”

“That means I can kill her, right?” Rengar asked Dalinar, smiling menacingly.  Dalinar just held out a hand, gesturing him to stop.

“Please tell me that this isn’t the kind of evidence you’ve been using to accuse each other,” Dalinar said, absently rubbing his face with his hands.

The nobles glanced around, shamespren flitting around them.  Dalinar sighed.

“Look,” Dalinar said.  “The best that I’ll do is get Draela locked up, and try to get some information from her.  The rest of you, stay here and don’t try anything.  Same goes for you, Rengar.”

Rengar glared at Dalinar and opened his mouth to speak, but promptly closed it after a stern look from the Blackthorn.  Draela frowned, taking her papers with her and walking up to Dalinar.  On the bright side, Draela thought, at least I’ll be safer in jail, and the rest of the conspirators can be killed off in my absence.  I’ll at least be free.

The crowd parted, allowing Dalinar to lead the oddly excited Draela back to the warcamp’s jail cell.  Some of them began to realize that being in jail in these dangerous times didn’t seem like a half bad idea.  After all, it’d guarantee free protection from the conspirators.  However, the nobles -- however indignant -- remained silent.

“Gah, storm this,” Rengar muttered to himself, slipping away before anyone noticed.  “I need to bring justice the right way.”

-----

Draela Heb looked down at her cell as the door slammed shut with a booming clang.  Perhaps this jail would be calming.  Except, obviously, for the interrogation that was to come.  That might be a little less pleasant.  Nevertheless, she knew that she was innocent, so she had nothing to fear, right?

Hours later, a figure walked down the corridor to Draela’s cell.  He immediately waved off the guards.  “Hello,” the voice of Rengar echoed.  “I will be your interrogator today.”  The executioner grinned madly, and sliced open the lock to her door.

"No, stop!  This isn't right!"  Draela screamed loudly as Rengar lifted his blade and brought it downwards.  Several half-written papers fluttered from her clenched hands to the ground.

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Vote Tally
Draela Heb (3): Sheon Idris, Caesarae, Eradin
Mace (1): Owain
Efrihm (1): Maggus

Draela Heb was executed!  She was a Noble Brightlady!

Night 10 has begun!  The turn will end in 23 hours and 30 minutes.  Good luck!

Edited October 28, 2016 by Alvron

[Seonid he/him]

Crap. Colors-cursed storming something or the other. My last realization came too late. Alvom next time, then. And gamma, your analysis tonight would be most appreciated.

If I don't make it through the night, my biggest suspicions are alvom, followed by gamma if alvom's innocent

[Paranoid King he/him]

Whoops. Hael being a villager was both unexpected and uninformative.

I suspect Alvom as well, and would also like to add Adamir to my list of suspicious people.

 

Also, I suspect Dalinar is going like this:

I tried to remedy that before you caught me. Yeah, I tried, Dalinar, but nobody was around for me to question.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Paranoid King

[Seonid he/him]

So, we have really two options here. It is certainly obvious that the Eliminators didn't care about the lynch this cycle. This upcoming cycle may well be our last viable lynch cycle barring inactives coming back (I'll PM Bort and ask him pretty please or something. Heck, I'll do that with all of them. Everyone else do it too.)

 

Anyways. Two options. Either the Eliminators didn't even bother hopping on that bandwagon because they didn't care, or one or two jumped on to seal the deal. And I can't tell which. If Alvom's guilty tomorrow, we've bought ourselves a little bit of time. If not, well, we're losing already. I'm going to make a plea, because I strongly suspect I won't last tonight. Look at tomorrow's lynch. Watch to see if it is unopposed. If nobody comes up as an alternative, talk about the stupid thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

We are going to lose this game because nobody is willing to say anything. Or maybe you've all lost interest, or maybe all of the active players left but me are Eliminators, but somebody has to say something or the village loses. So if nobody is brought up as an alternative, stop the lynch train tomorrow. Find a better target. If it's not opposed, chances are it's not an Eliminator. That's what we saw this past day. Hael was innocent, and nobody bothered to try to stop it. Except Gamma, and that was half-hearted. We will have 2 days of discussion. That's more than enough to ferret out an eliminator if you have the storming discussions.

 

Now I'm just ranting. When I die, you'll know that I'm innocent. Kill Alvom tomorrow, but watch for tricks. I could be wrong on him. Watch out for Gamma. He hasn't even posted his analysis yet. That might be worth lynching him for. Or at least putting him on the block.

 

Shallan is almost certainly good. I feel the same about Adamir. It might be worth looking at voting patterns for Adamir's attempted lynch. If I have time, I will, but I'm not likely to be on for the rest of the cycle. If I live past rollover, I'll talk then.