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Posted (edited)

Well, gee, thanks, Assassin. I was planning on keeping my shardplate as my trick up my sleeve to try and have a lynch be wasted on me, so I could try and see if any Conspirators would take the chance and jump on the lynch train that seems to slowly be rolling into the station for me. >.>  Speaking of, interesting it was only an assassin attack last night. O.o Does that mean inactivity on the eliminators, or feigned inactivity? Not entirely sure one way or another, but it might give us a chance to recover if we can get a good lynch through. 

Obviously my suspicions have been way off from the limited browsing of the game I've done. So no idea who to honestly vote for, and a lot has been going on so I just haven't had as much time as I'd like to to be able to actually dedicate to this game, but I will try get a vote in later this cycle, as I dont want to get one in now if I can't retract or change it later.

 

Edit: Also going to have to come up with some magnificent RP to follow up that write-up with! Manky kudos, Glorious GM!

Edited by Gamma Fiend
Posted (edited)

So who are your suspicions? You must have gotten something right if the conspirators are attacking you.

EDIT: oops, misread above post. You were either attacked by a villager assassin or a conspirator assassin. If attacked by a conspirator this late in the game, you're probably not a conspirator.

Why didn't the conspirators ambush anyone? Are most of them inactive?

Also, the reason people would pay hundreds of broams for just a piece of shardplate is because they can grow the rest from that one piece. That's probably why Gamma's shardplate was so weak.

Edited by Paranoid King
Posted

I'm still alive? Well, one more cycle for me to try and work out this conundrum. I was not expecting Alvom to be good. That's thrown my thinking for a loop, made me start wondering if some of the files who I thought I could trust are really all that trustworthy. But gamma is still on my watch list.

For a sport time last cycle, I started believing he might be good, and then I did the math and found that he was among the who could be evil.

My confidence in that math is a little lower now. I need to go back and work more out. It might still be worth lynching him.

Whoever we lynch, we need to watch the vote carefully, though.

Posted

I'm automatically extending the cycle by 24 hours because I will be busy tonight.  I would apologize for the inconvenience, but it appears as though this extension would probably be helpful anyway. :P

Posted

Probably would. Alright, to heck with this. Venture Mistborn, you're up for the lynch right now. What do you have top say?

Posted

I was going to vote for Ven, but with two votes I don't think I need to. I was thinking it was almost the end of the cycle, but since I'll have time to take it back if need be I will go ahead. Ven

Posted

It's nobody going to say anything? Paranoid King? Gamma? Macen? Anybody want to admit to being an eliminator? We'll lynch you last!

Posted

Um, I know there's bit much time left before rollover (assuming another extension isn't allowed?) but shouldn't we actually discuss Venture's guilt before lynching him? As it stands, Seonid called him out, Shallan voted on him immediately after, and Venture counter-voted on Seonid - there doesn't seem much evidence-based reasoning going on here...

We really need to get this lynch right, and a shot in the dark doesn't seem like the way to do it...

Posted (edited)

The only reasoning I have is that he was not active during the time a conspirator would have needed to be not active. Besides, Ven is being lynched even without my vote. I am sure Seonid is Edittofix: NOT a conspirator, so I'm willing to follow up this lead rather than tie it.

Edited by Shallan
Posted

Sorry, but correct me if I've misinterpreted you.

You are sure Seonid is a conspirator, so you are going to vote on the person Seonid is voting for?

Wouldn't a vote on Seonid be more appropriate, so that another player can ensure their demise?

I am still waiting for some analysis before I cast my vote - surely someone must have some?

Posted

Ah. I left out a not, and it reversed the meaning of my post. From Seonid's early attacks on Hero, I am sure he is NOT a conspirator.

Posted

Ok, that makes more sense.

Still, just because he is a villager, he is still fallible - I'm not going to vote for him unless someone sets out he evidence clearly, and we have a response - otherwise we cannot draw anything, and are no closer to finding the other eliminators

Posted

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Shallan.

I'm not an eliminator, but I feel like I've been helping them more than the village. If I hadn't just come jumping back in, we wouldn't have lynched Haelbarde. We still would have lynched Alvom, and maybe have hit gamma instead of hael, giving us potentially more useful information.

Even this lynch is practically unopposed. Maybe my suspicions are all as valuable as leaves on the wind.

Anyways, you want analysis, orlok? On my trusted folks: Shallan and paranoid king. Both come from their interactions with hero. Shallan attacked hero enough that hero called her out and tried to get her lynched because she was targeting him without evidence, as he put it.

Paranoid King put in a vote on hero that would have killed him a cycle earlier of it hasn't been two minutes late. I don't think an eliminator would risk that - no way to know whether or not ren would be merciful and count it. I think it even came in before ren posted the end of cycle notice.

My suspects: Gamma started the most recent lynchtrain on Alvom, on the pretext that he could have been saved by the eliminators because of the tied lynch earlier. However, he was the only living player that voted for the tired person, and all of the dead voters were good. I wanted to try and get some lynch discussion, and have the assassin finish gamma off tonight.

Macen wanted me to try and lynch gamma because he thought gamma was the assassin. And he didn't think we could afford the extra kill if the assassin picks wrong. I find that incredibly suspicious.

Finally, my vote on Venture is due to paranoid kings earlier suspicions, which may or may not be valid. I really bored for him to try and get discussion, See who agreed and who tried to stop the lynch.

Not much of that happened. So I'm going to vote for the one who I am most certain is evil: Gamma

Posted

Well, right now Venture is going to be lunched due to the night vote and my vote. I don't really think he is evil, with my only suspicion being his lurkiness, but we NEED this lynch. Assuming there is still an active Eliminator, and with 8? (can't see sigs right now due to mobile) people left, we have maybe 2 days until it's 2-2.

I think that, while I don't like just agreeing with other people, I should vote for Gamma.

Ven.

I hope I'm making the right decision here. Of course, if Orlok decides to tie it then all these melodramatics will be pointless.

Posted

Hmm. Ok then.

I dislike your logic regarding voting for Ven, Seonid. Yes, Paranoid King's vote on hero does exonerate him, but does not give him any greater ability to judge the alignment of other players.

Gamma, on the other hand, does seem a more plausible suspect - although if an adequate defence is mounted, I shall, of course, reevaluate.

Posted (edited)

Night 12: Vanishing Act Redux

Maggus emerged from his long gauntlet of dark underground corridors straight into one of the deep chasms at the edge of the Shattered Plains.  It was daybreak, though from this far down, he was completely shadowed from the sun.  “Ah, storms,” he cursed.  “Forgot where this led to.  Guess I’ll have to find… the magic rope.”

Maggus turned around to see a rope in front of the chasm wall, leading up to the surface above.  He stretched, flexing his arms.  “This’ll take a bit of time,” he sighed, grabbing onto the rope and heaving himself upwards.

-----

“Where is Maggus?” Sheon Idris demanded.  “He was just here yesterday, so he should be here by now today!”

“I don’t know,” Vin Elendel said, frowning.  “Couldn’t he just be running late?”

“We promised to meet here an hour ago!” Sheon Idris said indignantly.

“I agree,” Nivina Odict said, crossing her arms.  “He could be having some secret meetings during the night.”

“But why would he?” Orlok countered.  “The conspirators didn’t even attempt to kill anyone yesterday.”

“True,” Nivina admitted.

Dalinar watched the proceedings, nodding slowly.  Inside, though, he was greatly troubled.  Ten left, he thought.  And only a fraction of those have the heart to care.  How will these conspirators be defeated?  He slowly let out a breath he had been holding.  Does anyone really care anymore?

The remaining nobles paused.  A single anticipationspren, like a red streamer whipping through the wind, blew around them.  It would appear that they would have to wait for Maggus to arrive before questioning him.

But then they heard a loud groan coming from the direction of the Shattered Plains.  The nobles looked at each other for a second, then to Dalinar, and then rushed over to the edge of the nearest chasm.  A rope was tied to the cliff face here, and Maggus was slowly inching his way to the top.

“Erm, what are you doing there?” Orlok shouted down.

“I am putting on a great act,” he puffed.  “A great feat!  I shall escape from this pit of despair, and out into the light!”

“Yes, but why are you there in the first place?”

“Did you not just hear me?” Maggus frowned, gesturing.  “I put myself down here on purpose!  It’s a great vanishing act, of a sort!”

Dalinar sighed.  “Alright, help the poor man get out of there.”

“Wait!  I don’t need help!” Maggus shouted, pointing upwards.  “You’ll--”  Maggus suddenly lost his balance and tumbled from the rope, falling downwards.  “No!” he screamed, falling.  “This is not the final vanishing act I was expecting!”


Vote Tally
Maggus (3): Sheon Idris, Nivina Odict, Orlok
Sheon Idris (1): Vin Elendel
Vin Elendel (1): Night Vote

Maggus was "executed"!  He was a
Noble Brightlord!

Night 12 has begun!  PMs are now closed, and the turn will end in 23 hours and 44 minutes.  Good luck!


Player List (due to the sig restrictions, I'm going to have to put this here now)

 

Draela Heb (Haelbarde) Noble Brightlady
Sheon Idris (Seonid)
Brightlord Wannan (Herowannabe) Conspirator Brightlord
Arilir (Araris Valerian) Noble Brightlord
Seavul Karlon (TheSilverDragon)
Brightness Katara (little wilson) Noble Guardswoman
Merilee Kavdar (RippleGlyf) Conspirator Brightlady
Kipper (Kipper) Noble Assassin Shardbearer
Cleo (Winter Cloud) Noble Con Artist
Bortholemew the Blind (Bort) Shardbearer
Seixa (phattemer) Noble Worldsinger
Leyton (IrulelikeSTINK) Noble Courier
Mace (Macen)
Brightlady Nivina Odict (Shallan)
Em-son-of-none/Maggus (Emerald101/Gamma Fiend) Noble Brightlord Shardbearer
Caesarae (Adamir) Shardbearer Con Artist
Orlok (OrlokTsubodai)
Norlav (Alvron) Noble Courier
Resha (RavenRadiant7) Noble Brightlady Shardbearer
Eradin (Paranoid King)
Vin Elendel (Venture Mistborn)

Efrihm (Alvom Halbin) Noble Brightlord
Badhab Eony (The Honey Badger) Noble Guardsman
Klanal (Clanky) Noble Artifabrian
Patch (Feligon)
Mallan (Mailliw73) Noble Brightlord
Owain (TheMightyLopen) Noble Courier
Mortago (a smart guy) Noble Ardent

Edited by Alvron
Posted

Venture didn't really defend himself, it's more that we went back through a little voting analysis, and I found that my only reason for voting for Venture was because you thought he was suspicious. If there were no other targets, that wouldn't have made a difference, other than us calling you out to explain your suspicions.

 

But Gamma's vote on Alvom last cycle was extremely suspicious...and we thought we had a better lead. I still can't understand how it is possible for him not to be an Eliminator. But he wasn't. I'm planning on lynching either Venture or Macen next round. They're the only suspicions I have left. But after this run of misses, I won't be surprised if they are both good, and you and Shallan and Orlok are all evil and have totally played me.

 

If that's the case, good job guys, and good game. I don't think there's anything more I can do. But if not, then you know what I'm looking to do next round. I also still don't know why I'm still alive, unless it is because I've been such a good pawn for the Eliminators that they've kept me around. Not even the decency of a threat kill after I come back and bring back a few of the inactives. I'm ok with that. If this character lives through to the end of the game, I can keep using him in other games, and I'm rather attached to the Worldhopping King of Arelon now. He's also my character in the Long Game, so it would be weird if he died here and not there. And I'd like him to survive there for a long time...

 

Ah well. I have contingency plans set up. You'll see what they are. My highest suspicion is Macen right now, and even if the assassin misses, I've set things in motion to be able to lynch or at least tie a lynch on him, even if there are 3 active eliminators at present.

 

I doubt that, honestly, though. And I'm almost certain now that there aren't 4. If there were 4, and most of them active, then missing a kill last cycle makes no sense. That's why I suspect Macen. I think he was inactive that round. I wish I'd thought to check the moment I saw that the Eliminators had missed their kill, so that I could be sure, but he didn't post. It's a data point I should have thought through with Gamma.

 

I'm even unsure about whether I expect to die or not this night. The Eliminators are probably searching for the Assassin, and it's fairly obviously not me. Compared to a threatening role like that, what's one vocal player? Unless the Assassin is, in fact, on their team. Which is a possibility I haven't ruled out, but I prefer to hope that we have a chance of winning.

Posted (edited)

I think that Shallan and Seonid are eliminators personally (or at least one of the two). I will be voting for Shallan as well once I can.

*EDIT* I have been active near every cycle (some of the earlier ones I wasn't). Also it seems to me that anyone who voices suspicion of Seonid / Shallan ends up dead. 

Lastly, Seonid has lead the voting in the last two cycles (and is about to lead it onto me in a 3rd cycle). If I get lynched that is 3 days in a row where Villages have been lynched when the odds of hitting a Eliminator have been 3/11 3/10 and 3/9 (assuming there are only 3 eliminators left).

The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why Seonid tried to rouse the inactives back to playing when the Eliminators were on a role. This is the reason I am putting Shallan above Seonid on my list. Seonid stated he fully trusts Shallan - so that means he would weigh anything Shallan said pretty highly. I think Shallan has been pushing Seonid towards voting for certain people - and having Seonid be the voice so he gets blamed.

That is just a theory, they may also both be Eliminiators and they wanted to make their win more sweety by rousing inactives.

 

Edited by Macen
Posted (edited)

Totally forgot I was in this game, I have a lot of reading to do... >.>

 

 

 

EDIT:

Ok, I read through the entire thread again (only took me two hours) and here is what I came up with:

Suspicions:

eliminators: Venture, Macen, Bort, Shallan

 

villagers: Seonid, Orlok

 

I did my best to put every player into one of these categories.  I only put people I really trusted onto the village side

Edited by Feligon
Posted

Glad to have you back, Feligon. Also, this is a night cycle to there's no lynch, Ven.

As to the suspicions about Seonid and I: I don't really like how we're connected at this point. I'm fairly sure that Seonid is a villager because of Hero, but he is a good enough player to ne playing (haha) me and everyone else. I don't think I'd agree with a lynch on Seonid, and certainly not on myself, but also I don't think discussion during the night is a great idea unless people won't be on during the day. Saying who we suspect just tells the Eliminators who to and who not to kill. If everyone can wait a bit, I'd like to see who they kill before determining who I suspect.

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