TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I think they are quite a few older people who just don't answer to general survey about their personal life. Many simply won't venture into the General Discussion topic. Others may have gone quiet as the discussion has dimmed down recently. I also have this weird theory older (I hate word old, I certainly don't feel old) people have a different relationship with Internet than the younger ones due to the fact they didn't grow up with it. That's definitely the case with me and my parents. I grew up as the internet did--I remember being six or seven years old and using the pretty primitive websites for my favorite 90s TV shows, going along with each new advancement without a ton of awe. My parents were the ones who shook their heads in wonder at each new technological advancement, because they knew how amazing it was. I didn't really have a frame of reference for the changes, so I just went along. When it comes to friendships, I've made some pretty close friends over the internet. I see them the same way I see real life friends; we just interact differently. My parents used to mock my internet friendships, reminding me that the people I talked with might not be who they said they were. I saw it as--okay, fine, but I don't give out my personal information and I haven't seen any red flags. They're my friends, just as much as the people you talk with on the phone are your friends. Those friendships are just as real to me as yours are to you.
Guest Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I'd agree with maxal about school being actually pretty easy from 17-19. I'm 17, in my senior year of high school, dual-enrolled at a community for calc w/analytic geometry and trig, and honestly, I'm finding school pretty easy. I have more time management issues than actual difficulty with school.
Guest Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 That's definitely the case with me and my parents. I grew up as the internet did--I remember being six or seven years old and using the pretty primitive websites for my favorite 90s TV shows, going along with each new advancement without a ton of awe. My parents were the ones who shook their heads in wonder at each new technological advancement, because they knew how amazing it was. I didn't really have a frame of reference for the changes, so I just went along. When it comes to friendships, I've made some pretty close friends over the internet. I see them the same way I see real life friends; we just interact differently. My parents used to mock my internet friendships, reminding me that the people I talked with might not be who they said they were. I saw it as--okay, fine, but I don't give out my personal information and I haven't seen any red flags. They're my friends, just as much as the people you talk with on the phone are your friends. Those friendships are just as real to me as yours are to you. Since I am between you and your parents, my relationship with the Internet is a hybrid between the two. I didn't grow up with the Internet. I remember a time before VHS recorder invaded the households. I recall how we all sat in front of the new purchase and we simply recorded the Pink Panter, we rewind it and we re-watched it in pure delight. I recall how we used to browse through the TV guide (oh storms I miss those, I got into a frenzy when I found out they were discontinued a few years back) trying to see which shows we would want to record. We carefully managed those cassette such as to never miss space. Of course, we had Star Wars and Indiana Jones promptly recorded: when a movie passed on TV, it was a happening. We just pressed fast forward during the publicity who were quite shorter I must say. As a teenager, I carefully recorded my favorite video clips so I could watch them over and over and over again nearly making a map of which clip was on which cassette after which other show. I grew up in the years where kids sit in front of their radio, a cassette ready, finger close to the record button to promptly push it should OUR song, by pure happenstance, start to play so we could record it.... Having our own personal phone in our room was considered a privilege and made OUR parents frown due to the unseemly amount of time we spend talking. I was 10 years old when our first computer enter the house: a 286 which was considered advanced at the time. We all staring at the thing wondering, but what does it do? Not much it happened.... but my mother showed me how to use Word Perfect 5.0 and I thus proudly returned a few of my school work printed instead of written. Wow, such marvel. I was 15 years old when I heard the word Internet for the first time. Nobody had a modem back then, nobody used it even though the BBS existed, I never knew anyone who used them. I was 17 years old when my father deemed our old 286 too old and bough a Pentium, with a modem and yes, he agreed to pay for the Internet. So yeah, I discovered Internet as an "old" teenager and yeah, there always was this detachment towards it. Some of my generation jumped into it while others, like your parents, were more careful. Having friends on the Internet was not "normal" for many of us so we perhaps didn't treat them the same way. We came and go. We didn't put as much weight on anything happening on the Internet as real life. However, we still were young enough to engage into it. It's hard to label truly (everyone's different, some people my age are very into the whole social media stuff, but many just think it's stupid and a waste of time), but I do see a difference. Younger people seem more attached to all of it while older people tend to treat it as artificial life. Makes me think of this post in another topic where people talked of a rude forumer, now banned, who turned out being some middle-aged guy when most people thought his lack of decorum meant he must have been a teenager. Well no. That's hardly surprising. It's a pattern that can be seen in older people and one I may be guilty of using myself. I am often puzzled people would take anything I say, in a discussion about a book, personal as we are "just on the Internet", which is a very older people kinda way of thinking. You should also hear the lunch hour discussion between my colleagues on how to deal with their teenagers and Facebook. Should they ban it? At which age is it fine to let them use it? It is interesting to hear comments such as: "Well 15 minutes on the Internet is 15 minutes too much. I'd rather they do something else". "My daughter is pestering to create a Facebook account... I don't know, all this bullying...". "Not before 16 years old in my household." These are the things old people casually chat about when the young ones are not around. I sit in between. I hear all voices, but so is my generation, stupidly squeezed in between the X and the Y.
Kestrel she/her Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 It is not. I am just laughing at this. (Emphasis mine) it was tho.Like, no homework, easy class work, hardly anything to do. And I was in this highest part of my class. In high school you're suddenly faced with the fact that now you're average and/or struggling. Basically it was with me Sixth grade: college reading level, advanced math, science, etc Eleventh grade: suddenly average with classmates now who progressed, struggling because I never learned how to properly study
Guest Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 it was tho. Like, no homework, easy class work, hardly anything to do. And I was in this highest part of my class. In high school you're suddenly faced with the fact that now you're average and/or struggling. Basically it was with me Sixth grade: college reading level, advanced math, science, etc Eleventh grade: suddenly average with classmates now who progressed, struggling because I never learned how to properly study Bah you're so young. Everyone needs to learn to study at one point. Be glad you are learning now and not later
Kestrel she/her Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 True. I could be learning in college. Truth be told I still have no idea how to and I'm passing all my classes. Not with flying colors, but I'm keeping a solid 85 in most things. Except pre-cal but i will forever blame the teacher.
Guest Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 True. I could be learning in college. Truth be told I still have no idea how to and I'm passing all my classes. Not with flying colors, but I'm keeping a solid 85 in most things. Except pre-cal but i will forever blame the teacher. Personally, I think pre-calc was harder than calc. Keep it up!
Kestrel she/her Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I feel like I would be having a better time if my teacher actually taught instead of reading from the textbook and then not covering anything on the homework and taking a grade on said homework. The only reason why I have a 75 is because I fail almost every homework assignment.
Mestiv he/him Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I'm out of schools for a couple of years now, having graduated from university and all and I don't feel old! That's the wonder of the Internet, we can talk like we're all the same age as the age doesn't really matter here So yeah, we're all young and beautiful! For me the hardest part of education was without a doubt second year of higher education on the university. I finished high school with 98% on my math exam and got accepted on the university without any problems. However, comparing math from high school to math on the university here is like paper plane vs. Boeing 777 :/ For the first time in my life I had to study really hard to even pass some of the classes and I failed to do so anyway on the first try. Fortunately the programming part of my field of study was more natural to me and allowed me to continue studying
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