Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 8 hours ago, The Unknown Character said: 1. @Hoid Slayer as Y, an inexperienced sailor with a positive attitude and a secret. Nicknamed Hoid (or Slayerman ) has been around for a decent bit, knows what he's doing. That is not true I only know what I'm doing when I'm elim, which I have been an astonishingly few times Only twice, I believe, and only one of those really counted cause I was largely inactive the second time So, uhh, if my next GM is here, take notes please 8 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: Also I am usually RP heavy. I try to be RP heavy But I am also lazy 8 hours ago, Illwei said: Your read on me seems to be that I am likely an Elim in your eyes, because I am theoretically controlling the thread? Just clarifying. Nope What I meant to say wasn't that I read you as elim, just that I'm tentative to make any read on you at all - some of your behavior makes sense from an elim perspective, but it is also behavior v!me would pursue in a different scenario (to be more specific - less lazyness) 8 hours ago, Ascended Grubberfly said: Alright, final thought before I go to bed. Again, because it didn't save. Hoid, Qianweilian, and Illwei are all active and contributing. I don't think they're elim unless Illwie is pulling a "talk and sound smart and villiagers listen" strategy, but this may not be the best audience for that strat. Mystic and TUC are both inactive and not doing much. I'm leaning elim on them because Mystic seems to be inconspicuous, and TUC's thing about coordinating actions doesnt make much sense. No one said anything against the idea iirc, and if elims knew what actions people took they could counter and cause a Rebuke if we aren't careful. He could also be thief, trying to get the Shardblade out of the hold and into play to work on their win con. I agree with this^. Just feels weird. Coder posted as I was writing this, so I have no thoughts on him. Star is MIA, so lets hope she comes back soon. Wahr seemed a bit exe hungry, is that out of the ordinary? Coco hasn't said much, |TJ| hasn't posted, and all I have on Mint11 is that did seem like they wanted someone exed. But again, I don't know if that is unusual. Hopper poked TJ, but nothing has happened with that. So, Coder since he's busy and can't respond to the poke, and The Unknown Character. Less a poke, and more I think he's elim leaning. LIke other people said, a lot in this post rubs me the wrong way Specifically the correlation between activity and alignment, and then the vote on TUC that feels somewhat umprompted to me However, Grub is a new player, and I have no intent of pursuing an attack on him 7 hours ago, The Unknown Character said: Not many. I don't like Grub's post which I'm about to respond to, but it could just be newbie sheeping the high actives. You may recall that I'm not great at early suspicions. I'm better than I used to be, but I'm still not going to have much at this level of activity after half a cycle This is crazy I'm the only person who is pro-coordination. Hoid is wishy-washy, leaned anti but seems to be leaning pro now. Illwei is anti, and you are too now. Meeting favor is the entire point of this game, are we going to leave it to random chance? To use Illwei's own argument against them, not coordinating favor is like not voting. You're leaving it either up to chance, or to the people who do coordinate. You're the only confirmed Villager, don't let potential elims decide the game for you. If we don't coordinate favor, there's two worlds. 1. Random chance leads to more players raising favor. We will run out eventually. Illwei seems to doubt this, but it was 100% a problem in the Rithmatist games that this is based on. Even if the supplies run out, action economy will. The favor will rise and the amount of players with actions will decrease to the point where random chance doesn't cut it anymore. We have to coordinate then 2. Random chance leads to not enough players raising favor. I doubt it will happen this cycle, and maybe not c2, but I think this is a real danger c3. If players already used their favor items and didn't grab more, or they're saving for later, we could not make it, especially with elim sabotage in play. If we coordinate, we can account for sabotage with numbers, account for sabotage by knowing everyone's actions, and account for sabotage by holding players accountable. If we don't coordinate, we're vulnerable to all three, and any one of them could lead to us missing the mark. I'm not advocating for coordinating this turn, we don't even need to mass coordinate next turn, but some people need to step forward every turn so there's accountability and a buffer for sabotage of all kinds. The Shardblade is probably the only Rare item the Thief wouldn't bet on. They don't win if they die, unlike villagers and elims. I should also note for the newer players, generally pokes are on players who haven't posted or only made "I'm here" posts. Hence "poking" the sleeping person. Okay so I am somewhat convinced by all this It also makes me pretty heavily v!lean TUC at this moment in time I will be clear right now: I have no way to gain us Favour So if anyone does, I highly recommend they use it now cause I doubt a lot of people do, I wouldn't rely on others I'm not sure to what extent we should go with further coordination As I said before, TUC, the reason I'm kinda flipfloppy on this is cause I think the extent of our coordination should be agreed upon by everyone 7 hours ago, Illwei said: Not using actions there is. People are able to change-amplify, null your action. This is why claiming actions or coordinating is more dangerous than just simply the idea of voting. This is a false relation between the two. Just a suggestion, not really taking a side here but And correct me if I'm wrong Isn't it impossible to both take another action and change someone else's? So, in theory, if everyone claimed an action and someone did something else, we would know who it was Except oh snap we don't know the success of our actions And everyone could just lie that their own action was nullified Yeah this will never work Alright, my own perspective right now off the top of my head cause I'm short on time: I like TUC I like Grub's first post, opinion has been going down since then, but I won't exe him Don't like Qian, but do feel somewhat bad for exeing him first Coder feels weird to me We need to get the inactives in here ... Hey, since I don't see any clear exe candidates, does anyone wanna make a tie and try and force reactions? 8 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: X was glad Y had come along. Ever since they first met, they formed a kinship because of their names. X and Y sounded like a match made in heaven. Either way, X was dead set on getting through this. The treasure on the other side was tantalizing, and he would do whatever he could to get it. Well, not whatever he could. X saw Y out of the corner of his eye, and smiled. Y smiled back, his mind still on the shore. As soon as the small boat stopped and Y stepped out onto the shallows, a tension released in his chest. The sand squished beneath his feet, and he breathed out. Then they were picking up the equipment, and marching towards the new camp - towards the survivors of the other ship, and towards their destiny.
Qianweilian He/him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 8 hours ago, The Unknown Character said: Generally called Qian. A bit less experienced than Myst I think, just came off an elim game where they did will but not particularly notably so Wow. I've been severely burned. Probably true though... 7 hours ago, The Unknown Character said: I'm the only person who is pro-coordination. Hoid is wishy-washy, leaned anti but seems to be leaning pro now. Illwei is anti, and you are too now. I've expressed support for coordinating, and I believe I am the only person to have said an action so far. 7 hours ago, Mystic said: I think Qian’s posted like 3-4 times, and so I first have problems with that. Wdym? Have I not posted enough? 7 hours ago, Illwei said: There is no way in this game for someone to change, cancel, or amplify your vote. That's not true, I think one of the poisons does that afaik. So, I was looking at the previous game (LG112) and idk, Myst feels different. He was more confident and focused on solving. Anyways, I am not interested in getting exed cycle one again after the same thing happened last time I was village, so I'm going to hold on Myst and change to TUC
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Qianweilian said: Wow. I've been severely burned. Probably true though... I've expressed support for coordinating, and I believe I am the only person to have said an action so far. Wdym? Have I not posted enough? That's not true, I think one of the poisons does that afaik. So, I was looking at the previous game (LG112) and idk, Myst feels different. He was more confident and focused on solving. Anyways, I am not interested in getting exed cycle one again after the same thing happened last time I was village, so I'm going to hold on Myst and change to TUC I really don’t feel we should be exeing TUC here I’m gonna leave my vote on Wian and see if a better tie candidate than TUC pops up
Illwei Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) Spoiler Hoid Slayer Votes Qianweilian ^ 1 Wahr Votes Hopper ^ 1 Illwei Votes Qianweilian ^ 2 Wahr Unvotes Hopper v 0 Wahr Votes Illwei ^ 1 Hopper Votes TJ ^ 1 Mystic Votes Hoid ^ 1 Illwei Unvotes Qianweilian v 1 Illwei Votes TUO ^ 1 Mystic Unvotes hoid v 0 Grubberly Votes hoid ^ 1 Grubberly Unvotes Hoid v 0 Grubberly Votes Coder ^ 1 Qianweilian Votes Mystic ^ 1 Grubberly Unvotes Coder v 0 Grubberly Votes TUO ^ 2 Mystic Votes Qianweilian ^ 2 Qianweilian Unvotes Mystic v 0 Qianweilian votes TUO ^ 3 TUO (3): Illwei, Grub, Qian Qian (2): Hoid, Myst TJ (1): Hopper Illwei (1): Wahr There's not really that much going on, yet some people have a lot of posts. (neat feature on the new shard!) Gonna be at work probably until well past rollover, so if I end up not having time to come back to say much, I'll leave some things here. TJ has still not checked in with thread, and he, Stardust, Coco, Mint, Coder, and TUO have not voted so far. Qian's vote on TUO seems a little premature for a self-pres vote, no? edit: just realized i actually forgot to say anything like i said the post would. welp. Off to work now! Edited July 3 by Illwei
Ascended Grubberfly He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 11 hours ago, The Unknown Character said: This is crazy I'm the only person who is pro-coordination. Hoid is wishy-washy, leaned anti but seems to be leaning pro now. Illwei is anti, and you are too now. Meeting favor is the entire point of this game, are we going to leave it to random chance? To use Illwei's own argument against them, not coordinating favor is like not voting. You're leaving it either up to chance, or to the people who do coordinate. You're the only confirmed Villager, don't let potential elims decide the game for you. If we don't coordinate favor, there's two worlds. 1. Random chance leads to more players raising favor. We will run out eventually. Illwei seems to doubt this, but it was 100% a problem in the Rithmatist games that this is based on. Even if the supplies run out, action economy will. The favor will rise and the amount of players with actions will decrease to the point where random chance doesn't cut it anymore. We have to coordinate then 2. Random chance leads to not enough players raising favor. I doubt it will happen this cycle, and maybe not c2, but I think this is a real danger c3. If players already used their favor items and didn't grab more, or they're saving for later, we could not make it, especially with elim sabotage in play. If we coordinate, we can account for sabotage with numbers, account for sabotage by knowing everyone's actions, and account for sabotage by holding players accountable. If we don't coordinate, we're vulnerable to all three, and any one of them could lead to us missing the mark. I'm not advocating for coordinating this turn, we don't even need to mass coordinate next turn, but some people need to step forward every turn so there's accountability and a buffer for sabotage of all kinds. The Shardblade is probably the only Rare item the Thief wouldn't bet on. They don't win if they die, unlike villagers and elims. I should also note for the newer players, generally pokes are on players who haven't posted or only made "I'm here" posts. Hence "poking" the sleeping person. This feels like fearmongering. Could be wrong, but right after your post I asked who can get treasure, to which no one responded. Item coordination never seemed to be the topic of discussion, so unless you are reading into things more than me you are using the threat of a rebuke to make me think we're on the same team. Plus, it benefits the thief if someone else has the Shardblade, as they can just steal it on a later cycle. Edit: The first half of the post didn't save, so @Mystic I apparantly just overlooked your posts, my bad. I think my guesses have been influenced by who I've interacted with. Illwei said something on page two about how elims sometimes post but don't contribute to seem like they are helping but aren't. So I have no guess for Myst. Edited July 3 by Ascended Grubberfly
Through the Living Hopper He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 12 hours ago, Mystic said: I’d like to be offended by this, but considering my previous games this is fair My second game is still probably my best one Same. I'm probably not going to be on a ton these next two days (actually, probably not at all tomorrow), so @Mystic, keep me alive. From what I've seen so far, this discussion is good. Once I have enough time, I'll go through it and get some reads. 1 breathed the salty sea air. He liked it here. He liked it in all of the places (except for that one on Threnody). It was too bad someone had to die each time.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Illwei said: Reveal hidden contents Hoid Slayer Votes Qianweilian ^ 1 Wahr Votes Hopper ^ 1 Illwei Votes Qianweilian ^ 2 Wahr Unvotes Hopper v 0 Wahr Votes Illwei ^ 1 Hopper Votes TJ ^ 1 Mystic Votes Hoid ^ 1 Illwei Unvotes Qianweilian v 1 Illwei Votes TUO ^ 1 Mystic Unvotes hoid v 0 Grubberly Votes hoid ^ 1 Grubberly Unvotes Hoid v 0 Grubberly Votes Coder ^ 1 Qianweilian Votes Mystic ^ 1 Grubberly Unvotes Coder v 0 Grubberly Votes TUO ^ 2 Mystic Votes Qianweilian ^ 2 Qianweilian Unvotes Mystic v 0 Qianweilian votes TUO ^ 3 TUO (3): Illwei, Grub, Qian Qian (2): Hoid, Myst TJ (1): Hopper Illwei (1): Wahr There's not really that much going on, yet some people have a lot of posts. (neat feature on the new shard!) Gonna be at work probably until well past rollover, so if I end up not having time to come back to say much, I'll leave some things here. TJ has still not checked in with thread, and he, Stardust, Coco, Mint, Coder, and TUO have not voted so far. Qian's vote on TUO seems a little premature for a self-pres vote, no? edit: just realized i actually forgot to say anything like i said the post would. welp. Off to work now! Bye bye! Alright can I get anyone to bite on this Qian train, or yet another counter train? I don't want to exe TUO for actually trying to coordinate, but I don't love the other options of TJ or Illwei either - TJ cause he hasn't even posted, and Illwei cause I don't think we should be eliminating our most vocal figure this early in the game
Mint11 she/her Posted July 3 Posted July 3 alright so I'd like to RP, but given that rollover is tonight, I'd at least like to take care of game play now. and as far as that goes, things feel calm right now. that's not really the atmosphere I'd expect if we were smoking out elims, so I don't think we're on the right track. I agree with Illwei that there are a lot of posts, but not much has happened. I tend to mess these up so I don't usually post counts in the thread, but for my own sake... (ninja'd by Illwei but I'm glad our counts match) Qian (2): Hoid, Myst Illwei (1): Wahr TJ (1): Hopper TUC (3): Illwei, Grub, Qian Qian's reaction to being voted on is pretty typical for him, so I'm going to give him a slight village read. He also made an offhand comment about teaming up with the thief, which I think an elim is less likely to do. I kind of don't want to vote out Illwei right now, because I like their analysis. The vote on TJ was just a poke, he hasn't been around. I don't really get an elim read from TUC. He came in pretty early with a strong opinion on public information sharing and coordination. That'd be a pretty gutsy move for an elim. Hoid's engaging a lot, but it's mostly replies that don't rock the boat. His agreement with TUC on coordination and admission that he can't get favor feels noteworthy... Slight elim read indepedently? But I don't know if Grub would've poke voted him first if they were e/e. Though Hoid also seems to agree Grub is suspicious, after a few other people said the same. ngl I don't feel great about Grub, but its his first game so I'm going to ignore the elim lean I have on him for this cycle. Myst's felt off to me this cycle. I had to go through the posts again to figure out why. Myst's village read of Grub was a little premature, but I don't really think that's alignment indicative. His hesitation to vote before having a better elim read is normal for him. But I think what triggered my gut feeling is that while Myst has posted a lot, it's mostly been replies to others questions. An elim saying that elims would be motivated to self NK is kind of wild though. Myst also has an elim read on Grub now which is interesting and was the first person to have an issue with Grub's latest reads. So I'd want to ex either Hoid or Myst. I'm going to go with Hoid new VC Qian (2): Hoid, Myst Illwei (1): Wahr TJ (1): Hopper TUC (3): Illwei, Grub, Qian Hoid (1): Mint honestly this will probably make me sound suspicious, but if anyone wants to coordinate via PM, you should create one with me. I'd be down for exchanging info. but I don't want to do that kind of coordination in the thread. the downside of PMs is that no one else knows whats gone on in there, but the upside is the same. you can deduce what the elims know based on the info they've acted on, who they have PMs with. maybe. I haven't figured out the trick of it, but it would be fun to try
Illwei Posted July 3 Posted July 3 ^^ Which is why I asked @the unknown character what coordination would look like. Saying "we need to coordinate" isnt really a topic to discuss or sway people on. Saying "this is what coordination looks like, this is how we could do it l, and this is what my offering is to the pot" For example we could all claim via pm, but theres a lot of IKYKs that can happen when pms are involved. It would also mean only one or two people would have a full picture. They might end up being village, and us keeping that out of elims eyes, but unlikely. We could all claim fully in thread: - it would tell us who crew could pass keys to or give expertise to further help coordinate favour. Then we could assign days for people to not only pass keys or mentorship to specific people, but also of course Favour. - It would also give the Elims stronger targets that they might wanna eliminate first. We could claim if we have favorable items every round and then each round assign specific people to do it. Since no one is guaranteed to have favorable items, you cant really police this. If the elims dont want to have to add favour, they can simply claim they have none that round. If they know they need Honestly I dont really care much for any coordination attempts. If you care for it please suggest an idea and how to go about. Then claim. Personally as I mentioned earlier, I have no way to add to Favour right now. So its out of my hands. I dont remember much from LG73 in terms of how we coordinated defense. I'm not good at mech and all that- I'm no Kas.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Hallooo, i'm actually on a trip away from home where phone signal is weak so my participation is limited but i'll be back tomorrow!
Illwei Posted July 3 Posted July 3 18 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Bye bye! Alright can I get anyone to bite on this Qian train, or yet another counter train? I don't want to exe TUO for actually trying to coordinate, but I don't love the other options of TJ or Illwei either - TJ cause he hasn't even posted, and Illwei cause I don't think we should be eliminating our most vocal figure this early in the game I want to clarify that I am not on TUO because he "wants to coordinate" Its the fact that he wants to voice opinions on mech without breaking them down, posted a summary of people without any opinions, and saw my post about coordination seeming to be pointless to harmful as the whole thread thinking it was wrong. It was the idea in his head that since I (and Hoid) had talked somewhat negatively about coordination, everyone was talking about it. The only way though for this to be a solid elim lean would be his being teamed with either hoid or ascend. Because that is the only reason that he would be suspicious at all for ignoring their comments in thread. Anyways.
Mystic He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said: Same. I'm probably not going to be on a ton these next two days (actually, probably not at all tomorrow), so @Mystic, keep me alive. From what I've seen so far, this discussion is good. Once I have enough time, I'll go through it and get some reads. 1 breathed the salty sea air. He liked it here. He liked it in all of the places (except for that one on Threnody). It was too bad someone had to die each time. What? Why me? Anyways, I personally don’t like the train on TUC. Especially given that both Qian and Grub are on it. (I’m leaning village on Illwei, and it would be super weird if all three of them are Elim.) 3 hours ago, Qianweilian said: Wdym? Have I not posted enough? Hmm? Oh, your amount is fine. I don’t care for your number of posts. The problem was that Grub called you active - 4 posts is not the number I would call that at, especially since he called me inactive, when I had over 4 times your post count at the time.(edit: the actual numbers like 3 times) It’s just not something I liked. I had other issues as well. And I can’t go after Grub right now, so I may as well get you. (Edit: plus if you flip Elim that, to me, suggests I’m on the right track) 1 hour ago, Ascended Grubberfly said: This feels like fearmongering. Could be wrong, but right after your post I asked who can get treasure, to which no one responded. Item coordination never seemed to be the topic of discussion, so unless you are reading into things more than me you are using the threat of a rebuke to make me think we're on the same team. Plus, it benefits the thief if someone else has the Shardblade, as they can just steal it on a later cycle. Edit: The first half of the post didn't save, so @Mystic I apparantly just overlooked your posts, my bad. I think my guesses have been influenced by who I've interacted with. Illwei said something on page two about how elims sometimes post but don't contribute to seem like they are helping but aren't. So I have no guess for Myst. …. What? I know I have nothing on the first page, and half the second, but literally after that I’m all over the place. I highly doubt you missed that. That does not seem likely Edited July 3 by Mystic
Qianweilian He/him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mystic said: Anyways, I personally don’t like the train on TUC. Especially given that both Qian and Grub are on it. I'm mostly on it for self preservation. If a good counter train shows up, I'd be open to jumping off it. 10 minutes ago, Mystic said: Hmm? Oh, your amount is fine. I don’t care for your number of posts. The problem was that Grub called you active - 4 posts is not the number I would call that at, especially since he called me inactive, when I had over 4 times your post count at the time.(edit: the actual numbers like 3 times) Oh, yeah that makes sense. You're right, that is odd. Edit: Has the shard been painstakingly slow for anyone else today? Edited July 3 by Qianweilian spag
Ascended Grubberfly He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Mystic said: …. What? I know I have nothing on the first page, and half the second, but literally after that I’m all over the place. I highly doubt you missed that. That does not seem likely Missed it/wasn't involved in it. Just didn't stick in my brain. The Illwein and Hoid I've interacted with, so they stick in my brain. Some of my other reads were probably just been me piggybacking. There's probably a reason why I remember Qianweilian, but its unrelated to this so I will answer when asked but thats a tangent.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 11 minutes ago, Qianweilian said: I'm mostly on it for self preservation. If a good counter train shows up, I'd be open to jumping off it. Start it 11 minutes ago, Qianweilian said: Edit: Has the shard been painstakingly slow for anyone else today? Yes it has but I thought that was just my internet
Illwei Posted July 3 Posted July 3 18 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Bye bye! Alright can I get anyone to bite on this Qian train, or yet another counter train? I don't want to exe TUO for actually trying to coordinate, but I don't love the other options of TJ or Illwei either - TJ cause he hasn't even posted, and Illwei cause I don't think we should be eliminating our most vocal figure this early in the game I want to clarify that I am not on TUO because he "wants to coordinate" Its the fact that he wants to voice opinions on mech without breaking them down, posted a summary of people without any opinions, and saw my post about coordination seeming to be pointless to harmful as the whole thread thinking it was wrong. It was the idea in his head that since I (and Hoid) had talked somewhat negatively about coordination, everyone was talking about it. The only way though for this to be a solid elim lean would be his being teamed with either hoid or ascend. Because that is the only reason that he would be suspicious at all for ignoring their comments in thread. Anyways.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 okay so just blazed through the thread - pages 1-2 a bit more thoroughly gut myst village. vote is on wahr i did not like their reaction to illwei's vote on qian. i thought the reasoning was quite obvious that qian sounded a little defensive for a poke vote. even if illwei's vote was a 'poke', there is nothing suspicious about a 2-length poke-vote train early game at all. also, historically, whenever tuc has come out of the gate swinging making strong statements, he has been village. evil tuc tends to lay low, i think.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: I want to clarify that I am not on TUO because he "wants to coordinate" Its the fact that he wants to voice opinions on mech without breaking them down, posted a summary of people without any opinions, and saw my post about coordination seeming to be pointless to harmful as the whole thread thinking it was wrong. It was the idea in his head that since I (and Hoid) had talked somewhat negatively about coordination, everyone was talking about it. The only way though for this to be a solid elim lean would be his being teamed with either hoid or ascend. Because that is the only reason that he would be suspicious at all for ignoring their comments in thread. Anyways. Did you just post the same thing twice or is my computer glitching out?
Qianweilian He/him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Start it I tried a bit with Myst but it didn't pan out. Maybe I'll do some more analysis and look for candidates. 3 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Yes it has but I thought that was just my internet My Internet has been just fine, except for the Shard.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, |TJ| said: okay so just blazed through the thread - pages 1-2 a bit more thoroughly gut myst village. vote is on wahr i did not like their reaction to illwei's vote on qian. i thought the reasoning was quite obvious that qian sounded a little defensive for a poke vote. even if illwei's vote was a 'poke', there is nothing suspicious about a 2-length poke-vote train early game at all. also, historically, whenever tuc has come out of the gate swinging making strong statements, he has been village. evil tuc tends to lay low, i think. Hiya TJ I actually agree with you on TUC, and was gonna say that I feel like he always sees somewhat suspicious On a similar note, I felt like Hopper's one post was almost too cheerful, but anyways We need to get on the same page about this exe People I feel comfortable exeing due to activity: Coder, Qian, Myst, Mint, Wahr, Illwei, TUC, Grub Alert me if I'm forgetting someone Of those, people I don't want to exe for external reasons: Grub (newbie), Illwei (main thread controller, we don't want to lose all of those) Qian (somewhat) (says he's been exed a lot) (well but if it was his last village game not even his last game... bro's lucky he even got to be elim recently ykw I don't feel bad for him anymore) That leaves our exe candidates: Coder, Qian, Myst, Mint, Wahr, TUC I've said I v!read TUC. I have blank reads on Myst and Coder, they both seem friendly and natural enough but hard to read Mint I can't think anything of so far I legit can't remember a thing they've said so far off the top of my head I propose we try and tie Qian and Wahr Any takers?
Mystic He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: Hiya TJ I actually agree with you on TUC, and was gonna say that I feel like he always sees somewhat suspicious On a similar note, I felt like Hopper's one post was almost too cheerful, but anyways We need to get on the same page about this exe People I feel comfortable exeing due to activity: Coder, Qian, Myst, Mint, Wahr, Illwei, TUC, Grub Alert me if I'm forgetting someone Of those, people I don't want to exe for external reasons: Grub (newbie), Illwei (main thread controller, we don't want to lose all of those) Qian (somewhat) (says he's been exed a lot) (well but if it was his last village game not even his last game... bro's lucky he even got to be elim recently ykw I don't feel bad for him anymore) That leaves our exe candidates: Coder, Qian, Myst, Mint, Wahr, TUC I've said I v!read TUC. I have blank reads on Myst and Coder, they both seem friendly and natural enough but hard to read Mint I can't think anything of so far I legit can't remember a thing they've said so far off the top of my head I propose we try and tie Qian and Wahr Any takers? I’m still confused by Hopper’s post. I’m leaning TUC as village, more so with how both Qian and Grub are on him. Agreed that Illwei should not be exed As for tying the two, my votes already on Qian, so… ask someone else I guess? Not really much I can do. I’m currently not reading Wahr as anything. One thing I would like to note though is that with a thief ( @Archer can you confirm whether we have one? The part in the write-up about PMs happening until one gets exed seems to suggest that but it’s not clear), someone acting weird may not be E!indicative. I don’t actually know how to play with/around a neutral role. The only time I ever played with one was Hoid’s conversion where Archer and I got killed C1 and only managed to not lose by converting Doc
Qianweilian He/him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, |TJ| said: vote is on wahr i did not like their reaction to illwei's vote on qian. i thought the reasoning was quite obvious that qian sounded a little defensive for a poke vote. even if illwei's vote was a 'poke', there is nothing suspicious about a 2-length poke-vote train early game at all. Actually, looking back at that, I can kinda see what you're going at with Wahr. I'm still not convinced though. 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: Qian (somewhat) (says he's been exed a lot) (well but if it was his last village game not even his last game... bro's lucky he even got to be elim recently ykw I don't feel bad for him anymore) I'm assuming it's been a while since you were last elim? 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: I propose we try and tie Qian and Wahr Any takers? I don't really want to get a 50/50 chance to die... I'll pass for now. 5 minutes ago, Mystic said: Agreed that Illwei should not be exed At least not this cycle, yeah.
CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted July 3 Posted July 3 That being said, I don't really have any real e!reads. 3 minutes ago, Mystic said: I’m still confused by Hopper’s post. I’m leaning TUC as village, more so with how both Qian and Grub are on him. Agreed that Illwei should not be exed As for tying the two, my votes already on Qian, so… ask someone else I guess? Not really much I can do. I’m currently not reading Wahr as anything. One thing I would like to note though is that with a thief ( @Archer can you confirm whether we have one? The part in the write-up about PMs happening until one gets exed seems to suggest that but it’s not clear), someone acting weird may not be E!indicative. I don’t actually know how to play with/around a neutral role. The only time I ever played with one was Hoid’s conversion where Archer and I got killed C1 and only managed to not lose by converting Doc Ok so actually what I don't like (but don't actually think is e!indicitive) is that you are going after grub and qian because... what? 1 hour ago, Mystic said: What? Why me? Anyways, I personally don’t like the train on TUC. Especially given that both Qian and Grub are on it. (I’m leaning village on Illwei, and it would be super weird if all three of them are Elim.) Hmm? Oh, your amount is fine. I don’t care for your number of posts. The problem was that Grub called you active - 4 posts is not the number I would call that at, especially since he called me inactive, when I had over 4 times your post count at the time.(edit: the actual numbers like 3 times) It’s just not something I liked. I had other issues as well. And I can’t go after Grub right now, so I may as well get you. (Edit: plus if you flip Elim that, to me, suggests I’m on the right track) …. What? I know I have nothing on the first page, and half the second, but literally after that I’m all over the place. I highly doubt you missed that. That does not seem likely Grub called Qian active and you inactive when you had more posts than him. I think that's just Grub messing up, and I don't like that a real e!read is forming on someone because grub said something not really correct about you and someone else. I don't understand how your thought process went "Newbie messed up" too "So newbie and person the newbie was talking about must be elim" If there is more to your theory, I would love to hear it, but I just don't see it right now.
Mystic He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: That being said, I don't really have any real e!reads. Ok so actually what I don't like (but don't actually think is e!indicitive) is that you are going after grub and qian because... what? Grub called Qian active and you inactive when you had more posts than him. I think that's just Grub messing up, and I don't like that a real e!read is forming on someone because grub said something not really correct about you and someone else. I don't understand how your thought process went "Newbie messed up" too "So newbie and person the newbie was talking about must be elim" If there is more to your theory, I would love to hear it, but I just don't see it right now. The majority is just that one post about his reads. I don’t buy his reason for the slip up. And there definitely is a part of me that was slightly annoyed, but I’m reasonably confident I’m being mostly rational. As for the part of Qian being elim, that’s just me assuming that an Elim would try to v!read another Elim. Plus I don’t like how Qian’s situated in the post. Plus there’s the assumption he made that inactivity = Elim and activity = village But yes, I might be tunneling a bit. It’s a fault of mine(just ask Coco)
Wahrheitswächter He/Him Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Sorry that I didnt check in earlier, I know i havent been the most active this Cycle, life happens. So I see there are already attempts to get me exed C1, so far so normal, but its not a danger right now. I dont like the exe on TUC. My gut says that Qian feels Village to me. I dont know how I feel about TJ, but I really dont like Hoid proposing a Tie between Me and Qian, I dont want RNG to decide my Fate again. So I will move my Vote from Illwei to Hoid @Qianweilian wanna join?
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