god metals and splitting.

[chipofIsharsblade He/Him]

I just watched a theory video on the fourth moon on Roshar and how it might me Adonalsium's god metal. that made me think about splitting it into the various god metals of the Cosmere.

we know that harmonium can be split into Atium and Lerasium. does this mean that Adonalsium's god metal could be split into other god metals. 

I think there is the problem of how to split harmonium you need autonomy's metal. 

also do you think you can split warlight back into stormlight and voidlight to get new stormlight for radiants?

just a random idea. probably wouldn't work.

I just realized I should have posted this on general discussion. 

sorry yall

[Someone]

So, I'm not quite sure if I agree that the fourth moon on Roshar has adonalsium's god metal. 

I think splitting metals is difficult - just like for how splitting Adonalsium, you need the Dawnshards to do it, I imagine something pretty powerful would be necessary. I imagine that if you were to split Adonalsium's god metal, yes it would split, the question is, how would you do it?

[PanLin they/he]

8 hours ago, chipofIsharsblade said:

we know that harmonium can be split into Atium and Lerasium. does this mean that Adonalsium's god metal could be split into other god metals. 

So, as I understand it, harmonium isn't an alloy in the traditional sense:

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Questioner

If I were to alloy atium and lerasium, would I get harmonium? Or is harmonium different after the Shards combined?

Brandon Sanderson

It's different after the Shards combined.

Questioner

If I was to take harmonium and separate it out through distillation, would I get lerasium and atium or something that functions similarly?

Brandon Sanderson

No, you would-- It actually has become a different--

Questioner

Can't be split?

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah. I mean, you could find a way, but you're not going to get it through normal, mechanical means.

Skyward Houston signing (Nov. 19, 2018)

When Wax does split harmonium, there are a few things going on:

• a huge amount of energy feeding directly into the harmonium
• Autonomy's god metal (which is probably the most important factor)
• a specific Intent from Wax (an Invested individual himself) to create lerasium and atium

Brass, for example, is made of mostly copper with a fair bit of zinc. The copper and zinc still exist in brass; they're just arranged differently.

Harmonium doesn't contain bits of lerasium and atium. God metals are pure, solid manifestations of a Shard's Investiture, so it's more like harmonium is the spiritual child of lerasium and atium, and (to further the analogy) splitting harmonium into lerasium and atium is like someone trying to split your DNA down the middle to create a DNA sample of each of your parents.

My theory (but this is an extrapolation of what we know) is that some of the harmonium in Wax's experiment was essentially shunted into the spiritual realm by the trellium, forced to be keyed to different Shards based on Wax's Intent and the nature of harmonium, and then yanked back into the physical realm.

 

8 hours ago, chipofIsharsblade said:

does this mean that Adonalsium's god metal could be split into other god metals. 

We don't even have proper confirmation that Adonalsium has a god metal. There are a bunch of WoBs (technically a tiny spoiler for Stormlight in one of them, but nothing important) under this search string.
 

Going to answer the next one in a spoiler seeing as we're in the Mistborn forum:

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8 hours ago, chipofIsharsblade said:

also do you think you can split warlight back into stormlight and voidlight to get new stormlight for radiants?

FYI this should either be spoiler-tagged, or the post should be in the Cosmere forum.

But yeah, maybe! Stormlight and voidlight can be fused with the right Intent to make warlight.

Still, the introduction of another form of Investiture might be needed to split it back out to stormlight and voidlight. It's plausible that Lifelight could be used, but I don't think it will work—I think part of Wax's success came specifically from using Autonomy's god metal, rather than it just being the case that any god metal would work.

 

8 hours ago, chipofIsharsblade said:

I just realized I should have posted this on general discussion. 

Ah, just seen this! Probably, yeah 

Edited yesterday at 11:22 AM by PanLin

[Jult]

14 hours ago, chipofIsharsblade said:

also do you think you can split warlight back into stormlight and voidlight to get new stormlight for radiants?

I'd bet on yes. Navani was able to split the illumination given off by Towerlight into the colors that corresponded to Stormlight and Lifelight.

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When she tried the prism experiment with this light, two separate rainbows of colors -distinct from one another- split out of the prism.

She couldn't recombine them. When she tried sending the colors through another prism, she ended up with one beam of white-blue light and a separate beam of white-green light, overlapping but not combined as Towerlight was.

-RoW 65

She herself admitted that this was different from actually splitting the Lights:

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"I couldn't get Lifelight and Stormlight to recombine, but I don't know if this counts as truly splitting them apart - as I've only split their radiation, not the pooled Light itself."

-Navani RoW 65

But I think her experiments at least imply that un-mixing them is possible.

She compared the behavior to two emulsified liquids. Like forcing oil and water to mix. Most emulsions can be separated in some way.

[chipofIsharsblade He/Him]

15 hours ago, PanLin said:

FYI this should either be spoiler-tagged, or the post should be in the Cosmere forum.

Yeah, sorry about that.

[PanLin they/he]

8 hours ago, chipofIsharsblade said:

Yeah, sorry about that.

I see it's been moved no harm done!