Quick Fix Game 79: Death and Murder in the Stars

[Verdance he/him]

Just now, ___ said:

Last time my hunch was right, so I'm inclined to go with it again

*squints*
okay?

i think that it would be a good time to reveal that I have cytonic communication and connected with Myst and Star

[___ He/Him]

1 minute ago, Verdance said:

*squints*
okay?

i think that it would be a good time to reveal that I have cytonic communication and connected with Myst and Star

What's star said?

[Verdance he/him]

2 minutes ago, ___ said:

What's star said?

Shes confused

and some stuff i am not allowed to tell you

let me ask permission 

[Verdance he/him]

Okay. 
she was confused, thinks me and Myst are clear, 

i mentioned thst inhibition can be used to protect someone and she mentioned maybe protecting drake or penguin

i talked about how myst was planning to mindblade someone

and then jokes about how we were going to win

and i just asked permission to share about her inhibition power

thats about it

[___ He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Okay. 
she was confused, thinks me and Myst are clear, 

i mentioned thst inhibition can be used to protect someone and she mentioned maybe protecting drake or penguin

i talked about how myst was planning to mindblade someone

and then jokes about how we were going to win

and i just asked permission to share about her inhibition power

thats about it

Alright

I'm disappearing for now y'all be back later

[Stardust She/Her]

1 hour ago, coco.pudding said:

I would love to hear from @Through The Living Star where were you last cycle? Also, I did attempt to target you, but since I was blocked it didn’t count. I’m curious if you have PMs with anyone other than Fizz? (And also if you’re the one who inhibited me, if that’s the case, it was very rude and I am not appreciative)

 

Sorry, I haven't been online too much, I got hammered with six finals that I didn't realize were this week. I've been trying desperately to study, which leads to little to no time on the Shard, if any on some days. Plus my competiton, which didn't help. 

I do have a PM with Verdance, as he's already said. Not one with anyone else though, now that Fizz has been exed. 

I didn't inhibit you, but I did put up an inhibition barrier around myself, so if you targeted me you may have hit that. 

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Well that could have gone better.

5 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

See but last time I did that it made everyone decide I’m elim, which is why I’ve decided to not do it again.

Nobody was voting for you yesterday, is self-preservation really more important than averting a misexe?

 

Anyways. My kneejerk response is that today should have Mippo and Coco fighting it out.

Mippo is suspicious because I still believe the Fizz v Mippo wagons on Day 2 probably had an elim in it, and Fizz was a villager.

Coco is suspicious because I still find her scanner claim hard to believe. A potential 2 clears per day is a lot to give one player, even with caveats. And we've only got 1 cycle's worth of results to work with, and that seems unlikely to change.

...but, I also think it's fairly unlikely that they're both evil together. Coco voted Mippo on Day 2 and I don't really think that would've been necessary in that case. I dunno conceivably they could be hellbussing but I think we should exhaust other possibilities before going there, the simpler read is they're unteamed.

So, I kinda think there's exactly 1 evil between the 2 of them.

...between the 2, I think our best option today is probably Mippo. As much as I'm skeptical of Coco, if her claim is real I just really don't want to kill her. I think if we flip one of these players it will tell us how to proceed with the other, and that being the case it's just good sense to not flip the one claiming a really valuable role first.

[Wahrheitswächter He/Him]

So, turns out my feeling was right, now I should have probbably done something about it but unfortunnately Mysts Reasoning seemed vedy logical.

8 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Coco is suspicious because I still find her scanner claim hard to believe. A potential 2 clears per day is a lot to give one player, even with caveats. And we've only got 1 cycle's worth of results to work with, and that seems unlikely to change.

But the thing is her ability only identifies villagers, not Elims, and not all Villagers scanned with it lwill be cleared. Also with the Game progressive forward its more unlikely to identify Villagers. So I am inclined to believe her in the moment (Hopefully this doesnt turn out to be a Doc Situation)

I am more sus of ___/mippo they were the First to consolidate Votes onto Qian C1 (and didnt have a good reason for it) they were in the tie C2 and now they brought the Penguin message up again which Was probably nothing more than a Reaction test by Myst.

[coco.pudding she/they]

2 hours ago, Through The Living Star said:

I do have a PM with Verdance, as he's already said. Not one with anyone else though, now that Fizz has been exed.

Very interesting. This is in fact a lie. You also have a PM with Drake. Very curious indeed.

24 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Nobody was voting for you yesterday, is self-preservation really more important than averting a misexe?

I couldn’t have done much either way, with how many votes were already on him and how limited my time was today. So I elected to not.

Anyways I would like to propose an elim team consisting of Star, Drake, and one other.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

11 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Very interesting. This is in fact a lie. You also have a PM with Drake. Very curious indeed.

I don't have a PM with Star.

Also, are you claiming to have 3 scans a cycle now?

Coco.

18 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

I couldn’t have done much either way, with how many votes were already on him and how limited my time was today. So I elected to not.

you're just making things up at this point  Fizz only had three votes

what is even going on

[coco.pudding she/they]

1 minute ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I don't have a PM with Star.

Also, are you claiming to have 3 scans a cycle now?

Okay. You can claim that.

And yes, I am claiming I have three actions. Please keep in mind that I never overtly claimed any number of actions and any extrapolation on your part was entirely yours. This is not something I have lied about.

2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

you're just making things up at this point  Fizz only had three votes

Three is a lot compared to just me when everyone that’s active is completely tunneled on Fizz.

3 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

what is even going on

I do believe what’s going on is you’re scrambling to frame me so you can survive one more cycle. I’m fine with that. Even if you do exe me this cycle, I’ve identified two elims and two confirmed villagers. If I die and flip village, you’re even more screwed.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

24 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

And yes, I am claiming I have three actions. Please keep in mind that I never overtly claimed any number of actions and any extrapolation on your part was entirely yours. This is not something I have lied about.

I'm not saying you previously claimed a different number of actions, I'm saying you don't have 3

24 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Three is a lot compared to just me when everyone that’s active is completely tunneled on Fizz.

with respect, it's really not

24 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

I do believe what’s going on is you’re scrambling to frame me so you can survive one more cycle. I’m fine with that. Even if you do exe me this cycle, I’ve identified two elims and two confirmed villagers. If I die and flip village, you’re even more screwed.

.....yeah so this is just a lie pretty much

let's reassess some things:

there's 8 players alive right now.

There could very well be 3 elims. Three elims out of 12 would be 25%, and while I'm often telling GMs to put less than 25% elims, it's actually fairly reasonable in a high-power game like this one. In the very least it makes a lot more sense than the other alternatives.

That means a probable 5 v 3. If we execute village today and the elims kill again, that brings us down to 3 v 3. Not technically an elim victory per the win conditions, but pretty grim for the village even with some elims outed. Like at that point it's a coin flip if the village can vote out elims even if everyone votes for an elim. And even if the village wins the coin toss multiple times and it gets down to 1v1 the elims still win.

...so I was incorrect. We cannot in fact afford to take our time with sorting out Coco and Mippo. The elims wouldn't be forcing the issue otherwise. Coco and Mippo are probably teamed, then, because I doubt there's any use in disrupting the vote if there's already a villager on the chopping block. Coco is the more sure thing though, in that I don't particularly buy this is a reaction test gone wrong.

@Verdance @___ @Through The Living Star @Through the living Wahr @IcedOutPenguin sorry for the ping but it is probably a good idea to vote today

not gonna tell you how to vote, but, read the conversation between me and coco immediately above this message please

(edit: to Star in particular though, Coco claims to have used an ability to scan that we share a PM, and is currently trying to get you voted out based on that. I know you've been somewhat hesitant to vote people so far which is kinda fair but in my estimation it is very definitely in your interest to vote Coco here)

Edited May 12 by DrakeMarshall

[coco.pudding she/they]

18 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

with respect, it's really not

No? Not when nearly everyone else was a) completely tunneled on Fizz and b) distrusting everything I said? I’d say that’s pretty good odds it wouldn’t have worked out.
But that’s not really what we need to be focused on right now anyways. Kindly stop steering the conversation in an unproductive direction, thank you!

18 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

.....yeah so this is just a lie pretty much

If you say so, I guess.

18 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

There could very well be 3 elims. Three elims out of 12 would be 25%, and while I'm often telling GMs to put less than 25% elims, it's actually fairly reasonable in a high-power game like this one. In the very least it makes a lot more sense than the other alternatives.

That means a probable 5 v 3. If we execute village today and the elims kill again, that brings us down to 3 v 3. Not technically an elim victory per the win conditions, but pretty grim for the village even with some elims outed. Like at that point it's a coin flip if the village can vote out elims even if everyone votes for an elim. And even if the village wins the coin toss multiple times and it gets down to 1v1 the elims still win.

I believe this is accurate. If we don’t get an elim today, we are pretty much screwed.

Luckily, I’ve just caught two people in a lie that pretty much guarantees they’re elims! Isn’t that fun?

Just for all the doubters out there, here are my actions. Cycle 1: got inhibited. Cycle 2: scanned Wahr, TUM, and Drake. Wahr and TUM both have no PMs. Drake has a pm with Star. Cycle 3: inhibited again.

@Through the living Wahr and @The Unknown Medallion would yall mind confirming that you have no PMs? If my claim is invalid and I did not scan you, there would be no possible way for me to know this. Also, you both lose nothing by confirming this.

I asked Star this cycle if she had PMs with anyone, as I figured if she is elim she would likely lie about it. Lo and behold, she did, and now Drake is as well. This pretty much confirms for me that they are elims together.
I would like to vote Star first because she’s likely the one who inhibited me and I would like to be able to use my ability.

Edited May 12 by coco.pudding

[Wahrheitswächter He/Him]

@DrakeMarshall I already voted for ___/mippo

Regarding Coco, I kind of want to believe her, because she is saying the truth about me having no PMs the things is I have communicated that previously, (you remember Coco lamenting having no PMs and me saying that I too had no PMs) and If I remember correctly, this happened before her Claim regarding her Scan Results. I am also plagued by the fear that this is a Doc Situation (he fooled me twice with fake scan results, the first time was a similar situation where I believed he was village based on him claiming that je scanned me as village)

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

6 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

@Verdance @___ @Through The Living Star @Through the living Wahr @IcedOutPenguin sorry for the ping but it is probably a good idea to vote today

I already voted, I don't know why your pinging me

[Wahrheitswächter He/Him]

I think Drake pinged everyone that didnt vote last cycle

[Verdance he/him]

I’m really not quite sure what’s going on here, to be honest. I’ll give Coco one round of benefit of the doubt, and vote _____/Mippo

[StrikerEZ he/him]

@Verdance @coco.pudding @___ @Through The Living Star @Through the living Wahr @DrakeMarshall @IcedOutPenguin @The Unknown Medallion Heads up that we’re gonna need to delay rollover by an hour today probably. I’ll be busy at normal rollover time. So the Cycle will close at 8 pm CDT. So you now have just under 12 hours to get any and all votes/actions in.

Not doing a proper VC right now because I’m on mobile.

[Verdance he/him]

_____/Mippo (3): Penguin, Wahr, Verdance

Penguin (1): _____/Mippo

Star: (1): Coco

Coco (1): Drake

[Stardust She/Her]

9 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

Very interesting. This is in fact a lie. You also have a PM with Drake. Very curious indeed.

I couldn’t have done much either way, with how many votes were already on him and how limited my time was today. So I elected to not.

Anyways I would like to propose an elim team consisting of Star, Drake, and one other.

8 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

I asked Star this cycle if she had PMs with anyone, as I figured if she is elim she would likely lie about it. Lo and behold, she did, and now Drake is as well. This pretty much confirms for me that they are elims together.
I would like to vote Star first because she’s likely the one who inhibited me and I would like to be able to use my ability.

Okay, let's get this straight. 

You are accusing me of two things:

1) Lying about having a PM with Drake

2) Inhibiting you

Neither of these things I did.

I do not have a PM with Drake. He's already confirmed that, and if you need more proof, I'll give you this. If I was an Elim, why would I lie? Seriously, you had just said you were an intercepter. I've read the rules- the elim doc counts as a PM. So if I was an Elim, would I lie? Especially when you could have incriminating proof against me?

Second, I DID NOT INHIBIT YOU. Seriously, I protected myself. I'm tired of you saying that I did. I can't prove this, but seriously, I didn't inhibit you.

Just because I am the only Inhibitor you know of does not mean that I am the one that inhibited you. I'd be willing to bet there is at least one other inhibitor out there (actually, there has to be, because I didn't inhibit you). I'm just the only one that you know of because Fizz told everyone what we talked about in our PM!

I've been debating who to vote, you or Mippo, but then you accused me. 

Coco

 

[Verdance he/him]

24 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said:

Okay, let's get this straight. 

You are accusing me of two things:

1) Lying about having a PM with Drake

2) Inhibiting you

Neither of these things I did.

I do not have a PM with Drake. He's already confirmed that, and if you need more proof, I'll give you this. If I was an Elim, why would I lie? Seriously, you had just said you were an intercepter. I've read the rules- the elim doc counts as a PM. So if I was an Elim, would I lie? Especially when you could have incriminating proof against me?

Second, I DID NOT INHIBIT YOU. Seriously, I protected myself. I'm tired of you saying that I did. I can't prove this, but seriously, I didn't inhibit you.

Just because I am the only Inhibitor you know of does not mean that I am the one that inhibited you. I'd be willing to bet there is at least one other inhibitor out there (actually, there has to be, because I didn't inhibit you). I'm just the only one that you know of because Fizz told everyone what we talked about in our PM!

I've been debating who to vote, you or Mippo, but then you accused me. 

Coco

 

I keep seeing stuff like this and saying, “ill give Coco the benefit of the doubt, i was wrong about Fizz,” but Coco just keeps lying. She was on Myst’s list, and Myst near the end said he was possibly wrong about TUM and we know he was wrong about Fizz, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be right about Coco. 
_____/Mippo, Coco.

—

_____/Mippo (2): Penguin, Wahr

Penguin (1): _____/Mippo

Star: (1): Coco

Coco (3): Drake, Star, Verdance

[coco.pudding she/they]

2 hours ago, Through The Living Star said:

1) Lying about having a PM with Drake

Yes. I scanned Drake during the second cycle and it said he had a pm with you. When asked, you said you only had pms with Ver and Fizz. The only reason you would lie about this is if it’s not a pm and is instead the elim doc.

2 hours ago, Through The Living Star said:

2) Inhibiting you

I don’t know if you did this, I’m just assuming you did since the elims would obviously want to inhibit me so I can’t clear any more villagers/discover a connection between elims, and you are the only elim inhibitor I know of.

2 hours ago, Through The Living Star said:

He's already confirmed that

Yeah, but he’s lying about that too, so that’s not particularly helpful.

2 hours ago, Through The Living Star said:

why would I lie?

I don’t know what’s going on in your head. I did purposely phrase it in a way that indicated I had not scanned you yet, and I’m assuming you felt safe knowing I had been inhibited and couldn’t possibly have more information than I had had in the previous cycle. That was my intention. If you aren’t an elim, you have nothing to hide, and therefore nothing to lie about. Both you and Drake’s reactions to this indicate to me even further than you are both elims.

I would like to point out to everyone that neither of them have made any arguments except “nuh uh” and “gms wouldn’t balance the game like that.” These are not good arguments, and to me just prove it further that they are scrambling.

Oh, and another thing: Yall could have avoided this whole mess by simply saying “oh, I forgot, yeah I have a pm with Drake too” and that would have been considerably less suspicious. But you didn’t. And now we’re here.

2 hours ago, Verdance said:

he can’t be right about Coco. 

The biggest reason he was sus of me was because he thought me and Fizz were elims together. He started campaigning against me after I switched off of Fizz and started defending him. Turns out I was right about Fizz not being an elim. So Myst’s “evidence” against me was proven to be untrue, he just didn’t get a chance to say it.

10 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said:

@DrakeMarshall I already voted for ___/mippo

Regarding Coco, I kind of want to believe her, because she is saying the truth about me having no PMs the things is I have communicated that previously, (you remember Coco lamenting having no PMs and me saying that I too had no PMs) and If I remember correctly, this happened before her Claim regarding her Scan Results. I am also plagued by the fear that this is a Doc Situation (he fooled me twice with fake scan results, the first time was a similar situation where I believed he was village based on him claiming that je scanned me as village)

It did happen before, yes. I hadn’t gotten results in by that time since it was still cycle two and I was blocked cycle one.

This is not a Doc situation. Doc was confirmed a villager at that point (or so we thought). I am not, and therefore the elims are able to turn it back around onto me.

Anyways, if you vote for either Star or Drake with me, I can prove that I’m telling the truth, and we won’t end up in a situation with 3 on 3 where village is basically doomed. If I’m wrong, feel free to vote me after, but I promise you I have not lied about anything this entire game, and I am 100% confident Drake and Star are elims.

I don’t think there’s much to be gained this cycle by voting mippo. The discussion so far has revolved almost entirely around Drake, Star, and myself. Please choose one of those to vote for, preferably Drake or Star. If a train gets going on Drake instead, I will happily switch my vote. Just as long as we get one of them out today we should be fine.

[Verdance he/him]

Just now, coco.pudding said:

Yes. I scanned Drake during the second cycle and it said he had a pm with you. When asked, you said you only had pms with Ver and Fizz. The only reason you would lie about this is if it’s not a pm and is instead the elim doc.

I don’t know if you did this, I’m just assuming you did since the elims would obviously want to inhibit me so I can’t clear any more villagers/discover a connection between elims, and you are the only elim inhibitor I know of.

Yeah, but he’s lying about that too, so that’s not particularly helpful.

I don’t know what’s going on in your head. I did purposely phrase it in a way that indicated I had not scanned you yet, and I’m assuming you felt safe knowing I had been inhibited and couldn’t possibly have more information than I had had in the previous cycle. That was my intention. If you aren’t an elim, you have nothing to hide, and therefore nothing to lie about. Both you and Drake’s reactions to this indicate to me even further than you are both elims.

I would like to point out to everyone that neither of them have made any arguments except “nuh uh” and “gms wouldn’t balance the game like that.” These are not good arguments, and to me just prove it further that they are scrambling.

Oh, and another thing: Yall could have avoided this whole mess by simply saying “oh, I forgot, yeah I have a pm with Drake too” and that would have been considerably less suspicious. But you didn’t. And now we’re here.

The biggest reason he was sus of me was because he thought me and Fizz were elims together. He started campaigning against me after I switched off of Fizz and started defending him. Turns out I was right about Fizz not being an elim. So Myst’s “evidence” against me was proven to be untrue, he just didn’t get a chance to say it.

It did happen before, yes. I hadn’t gotten results in by that time since it was still cycle two and I was blocked cycle one.

This is not a Doc situation. Doc was confirmed a villager at that point (or so we thought). I am not, and therefore the elims are able to turn it back around onto me.

Anyways, if you vote for either Star or Drake with me, I can prove that I’m telling the truth, and we won’t end up in a situation with 3 on 3 where village is basically doomed. If I’m wrong, feel free to vote me after, but I promise you I have not lied about anything this entire game, and I am 100% confident Drake and Star are elims.

I don’t think there’s much to be gained this cycle by voting mippo. The discussion so far has revolved almost entirely around Drake, Star, and myself. Please choose one of those to vote for, preferably Drake or Star. If a train gets going on Drake instead, I will happily switch my vote. Just as long as we get one of them out today we should be fine.

Star and Drake are the only people I’m becoming confident aren’t elims

[coco.pudding she/they]

4 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Star and Drake are the only people I’m becoming confident aren’t elims

Why are you inclined to believe them over me?

[Verdance he/him]

3 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Why are you inclined to believe them over me?

I have PMs with Star and am inclined to read her as village. She basically immediately told me she had cytonics, while i am more inclined to lie and hide them in case of elims. 
Drake is doing a good job at analysis, strategy, and acting more in the village’s favor. He defaulted to mippo over you, which I find interesting.