coco.pudding she/they Posted April 23 Posted April 23 26 minutes ago, Frozen Mint said: is it possible to be successfully followed by another player without being notified? No, it is not. Anyone who was followed was notified of it. 1
Araris Valerian he/him Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Frozen Mint said: I know its been confirmed in people's PMs but I want this out in the thread considering how weird all this is @Araris Valerian is it possible to be successfully followed by another player without being notified? No. Anyone successfully followed by at least one player is notified (and the notification is the same, regardless of how many people did the following).
Doc12 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 So really. Just comes back down to either Mist lied about following Star, or Star lied about not being followed, which is a really dumb thing to lie about >> The fact they're both doubling down so hard on this impossible contradiction ironically makes me trust them more than if one of them had changed their story to make sense.
Myst He/Him Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: So really. Just comes back down to either Mist lied about following Star, or Star lied about not being followed, which is a really dumb thing to lie about >> The fact they're both doubling down so hard on this impossible contradiction ironically makes me trust them more than if one of them had changed their story to make sense. Honestly fair, I want to trust Star for similar reasons. Idk about her, but I’d be fully exposing myself as Elim in my PM with her, because it doesn’t change the dynamic in thread. considering there’s not much to do right now, Perhaps both Star and I are Elims and we’re just chaos goblins
Through The Living Star She/Her Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Well I've been looking through the rules and I have found nothing that could have caused such a discrepancy, so I have no clue what is going on. The only thing I know is what went on in my GM PM. (below is even further elaboration on what happened on my side of things) So, when Mist first posted that he followed me, I was super grateful to have something to back up my story. You can see my post from there. I had checked my PM and I found a clue and I was feeling pretty good. The day before all this happened, however, I had been going through the rules as I had clearly misunderstood some rules (I.e. what poke vote means) and I remembered the quote about being notified when you are followed. So when I though about that, I checked my GM PM, and noticed that nothing said I was followed. The only thing mentioned there was the clue. At this point I was kind of confused, but I wanted to be sure, so I checked with the GMs, and they did clarify that if I was followed, they would have mentioned it in the PM. So that's how I know that I wasn't followed. I have checked several times, and I know I was not followed last night. 4 minutes ago, Mist. said: considering there’s not much to do right now, Perhaps both Star and I are Elims and we’re just chaos goblins Dang it, why'd you give it away?
StrikerEZ he/him Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I'm honestly beginning to suspect that maybe both Mist and Star are villagers here. To me, the likely sequence of events seems to be that Mist just wanted to throw out a made up following action (either to sow confusion, for chaos gremlin fun, or to obfuscate an action they actually took), and Star initially was like "oh cool, sweet." Then Star went to actually check their GM PM, and the rest of the confusion happens in thread as it occurred. Mist is probably doubling down to avoid admitting they lied. Regardless of what side Mist is on, that doesn't look good. A thought I had while writing this: Mist could have been motivated to lie about a following action N1 to claim an action other than using the smoking gun. If this is the case, would we get anything from exing Mist here? They can't still have the gun, right?
Doc12 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 15 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: I'm honestly beginning to suspect that maybe both Mist and Star are villagers here. To me, the likely sequence of events seems to be that Mist just wanted to throw out a made up following action (either to sow confusion, for chaos gremlin fun, or to obfuscate an action they actually took), and Star initially was like "oh cool, sweet." Then Star went to actually check their GM PM, and the rest of the confusion happens in thread as it occurred. Mist is probably doubling down to avoid admitting they lied. Regardless of what side Mist is on, that doesn't look good. A thought I had while writing this: Mist could have been motivated to lie about a following action N1 to claim an action other than using the smoking gun. If this is the case, would we get anything from exing Mist here? They can't still have the gun, right? The feeling I'm getting is that they're both village and its a misunderstanding but our GMs have clarified they did not make a mistake, so the fact remains that one of them is lying? It just doesn't make sense in either scenario 1 or 2. What's most likely going to happen is one of them dies today and we exe the other tomorrow, so this just drew unnecessary attention to themselves, especially when Mist confirming Star's exploration at first made me file them both away as 'fine'. An elim team wouldn't want attention like this, much less a serial killer. I've thought about this a lot, and while I was fine leaving it to a tie, I think I may end up voting Mist here. The way I'm looking at this is E!Mist has a a reason to lie, to claim an action other than what they actually did. E!Star literally has no reason to deny that she is cleared. While Mist's arguments seem earnest to me, at the end of it, trying to go for the simplest solution here, its more likely that he claimed an action he did not take and had to double down rather than Star deciding to put herself back in the spotlight in some kind of insane gambit when she was upset about being suspected at all D1. Also, really, we might end up exeing them both anyways, and I'd rather give Star a chance as a new player another cycle to prove themselves. I have evening plans tonight so I might not be back before rollover, so just wanted to get this in. Sorry Mist, no hard feelings This still doesn't feel like the ideal solution but its the one that makes the most sense to me.
Myst He/Him Posted April 23 Posted April 23 25 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: I'm honestly beginning to suspect that maybe both Mist and Star are villagers here. To me, the likely sequence of events seems to be that Mist just wanted to throw out a made up following action (either to sow confusion, for chaos gremlin fun, or to obfuscate an action they actually took), and Star initially was like "oh cool, sweet." Then Star went to actually check their GM PM, and the rest of the confusion happens in thread as it occurred. Mist is probably doubling down to avoid admitting they lied. Regardless of what side Mist is on, that doesn't look good. A thought I had while writing this: Mist could have been motivated to lie about a following action N1 to claim an action other than using the smoking gun. If this is the case, would we get anything from exing Mist here? They can't still have the gun, right? I’m a bit confused by the first bit because I was given multiple chances to say that it was a test or something. Doc straight up was like, “what’d you actually do” I could’ve claimed to have actually followed doc. I’m saying I followed Star 6 minutes ago, Doc12 said: The feeling I'm getting is that they're both village and its a misunderstanding but our GMs have clarified they did not make a mistake, so the fact remains that one of them is lying? It just doesn't make sense in either scenario 1 or 2. What's most likely going to happen is one of them dies today and we exe the other tomorrow, so this just drew unnecessary attention to themselves, especially when Mist confirming Star's exploration at first made me file them both away as 'fine'. An elim team wouldn't want attention like this, much less a serial killer. I've thought about this a lot, and while I was fine leaving it to a tie, I think I may end up voting Mist here. The way I'm looking at this is E!Mist has a a reason to lie, to claim an action other than what they actually did. E!Star literally has no reason to deny that she is cleared. While Mist's arguments seem earnest to me, at the end of it, trying to go for the simplest solution here, its more likely that he claimed an action he did not take and had to double down rather than Star deciding to put herself back in the spotlight in some kind of insane gambit when she was upset about being suspected at all D1. Also, really, we might end up exeing them both anyways, and I'd rather give Star a chance as a new player another cycle to prove themselves. I have evening plans tonight so I might not be back before rollover, so just wanted to get this in. Sorry Mist, no hard feelings This still doesn't feel like the ideal solution but its the one that makes the most sense to me. Fair, none of it makes sense to me either.
Verdance he/him Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I would like to live in a game where Mist doesn’t die early, so only for that reason will I be voting against Star
Fizz9 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 One, that's a pretty lame reason @Verdance . I am going to vote for Mist, I agree with @Doc12's reasoning.
Verdance he/him Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fizz9 said: One, that's a pretty lame reason @Verdance . I am going to vote for Mist, I agree with @Doc12's reasoning. What, I ended up v!/Ver/v!Mist in Hufflepuff last round, but he got exe’d or NK’d first round. Plus, someone was trying to get me to vote earlier, and “I am honestly quite ssstymied on a sssuitable sssubject. No one has ssseriously caught my sssuspicions ssso far,” Harley hisses to Patrick. He seems to have gotten caught up in some snake roleplay or something, or maybe he’s simply using the wrong definition of hiss. Edited April 23 by Verdance Whisssper
Myst He/Him Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Well, I certainly don’t like dying, so Star sorry, but I know I’m telling the truth. If I’m right, I have one more vote than Star, so it’s not a tie right now. But I’m not going to check right now.
___ He/Him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 I really don't like this back and forth. It draws all the attention. 2 hours ago, StrikerEZ said: I'm honestly beginning to suspect that maybe both Mist and Star are villagers here. To me, the likely sequence of events seems to be that Mist just wanted to throw out a made up following action (either to sow confusion, for chaos gremlin fun, or to obfuscate an action they actually took), and Star initially was like "oh cool, sweet." Then Star went to actually check their GM PM, and the rest of the confusion happens in thread as it occurred. Mist is probably doubling down to avoid admitting they lied. Regardless of what side Mist is on, that doesn't look good. A thought I had while writing this: Mist could have been motivated to lie about a following action N1 to claim an action other than using the smoking gun. If this is the case, would we get anything from exing Mist here? They can't still have the gun, right? I was thinking the same; in the case of scenario 2 it does us no good to be suspicious of things from previous rounds. It would make more sense to see who is more suspicious now Obviously that's only for 2 tho Ok so I just spent more time than I wanted to looking through last night/day In the case that this is scenario 1, I think Mist is elim For 2, I have a feeling that Ver had the gun last time. I think the best chance we have to find who has the gun and properly vote them, as that seems the best course of action. But that means that the only real clues we have is changes in behavior between cycles. I wasn't able to find anything myself behavior-wise, other than a weird comment from Ver about not getting his message from the GMs @Araris Valerian/@coco.pudding does using the gun count as an action? Like can you use the gun and something else?
Through The Living Star She/Her Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) So here is everything that has happened so far. Claims about Actions Mist: Searched Star Mint: Searched Doc Fallen:Found Jeskeri Paraphernalia Doc: Found remnants of a Rithmatic defense Star: Found a Voidlight gemstone Mippo/___: Found a Voidlight gemstone Striker: Found a skull with steel spikes Akimo: Found a spent aluminum bullet casing Verdance: Found an old boot Qianwellian: Found a boot Conure: Did nothing Fizz: Did nothing Votes Star: 3 (Striker, Mist, Verdance) Mist:4 (Mippo/___, Mint, Doc, Fizz) People who haven’t voted yet/ are not planning on voting: Conure, Akimo, Qianwellian, Star, and Fallen. *sighs* I really don't want to vote anyone. I'm not sure who to vote at this point. I really want to think that Mist is genuine, but then again, this is my first time playing SE, so I don't know how good I am at judging people's character. The only thing I am sure about is what happened in my PM. So... argh, I don't know what to do... Edited April 24 by Through The Living Star changed "voidlight sphere" to "voidlight gemstone"
Verdance he/him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ___ said: I really don't like this back and forth. It draws all the attention. I was thinking the same; in the case of scenario 2 it does us no good to be suspicious of things from previous rounds. It would make more sense to see who is more suspicious now Obviously that's only for 2 tho Ok so I just spent more time than I wanted to looking through last night/day In the case that this is scenario 1, I think Mist is elim For 2, I have a feeling that Ver had the gun last time. I think the best chance we have to find who has the gun and properly vote them, as that seems the best course of action. But that means that the only real clues we have is changes in behavior between cycles. I wasn't able to find anything myself behavior-wise, other than a weird comment from Ver about not getting his message from the GMs @Araris Valerian/@coco.pudding does using the gun count as an action? Like can you use the gun and something else? I actually did get my GM PM regarding my search for items. I was just lazy (or possibly sleep deprived) and said so without checking at all. I corrected that basically immediately after. My PMs are a bit messy right now. Edited April 24 by Verdance
___ He/Him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Verdance said: I actually did get my GM PM regarding my search for items. I was just lazy (or possibly sleep deprived) and said so without checking at all. I corrected that basically immediately after. My PMs are a bit messy right now. Fine either way it doesn't really matter whether you're lying or not if it's scenario 2
Araris Valerian he/him Posted April 24 Author Posted April 24 41 minutes ago, ___ said: @Araris Valerian/@coco.pudding does using the gun count as an action? Like can you use the gun and something else? The gun counts as an action, so other actions cannot be taken at the same time. I'd also just strongly encourage everyone to go read the parts of the rules you believe to be relevant at this point in time.
Verdance he/him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said: The gun counts as an action, so other actions cannot be taken at the same time. I'd also just strongly encourage everyone to go read the parts of the rules you believe to be relevant at this point in time. Does this mean that people have incorrect assumptions about the rules?
Myst He/Him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said: Star: 3 (Striker, Mist, Verdance) Mist:4 (Mippo/___, Mint, Doc, Fizz) People who haven’t voted yet/ are not planning on voting: Conure, Akimo, Qianwellian, Star, and Fallen. Alright. I think I’m going out then. Unless someone pops in to vote in the next two hours. Good luck finding the elims(whichever they may be) I’m going to ping everyone who hasn’t voted, and if it still looks like I’m going out 15ish before rollover I’ll get some final thoughts out Edit: lol forgot to ping them @Miss Fallen @Conure1243 @Akimikoisthecutest @Qianweilian @Through The Living Star Edited April 24 by Mist.
___ He/Him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Mist. said: Alright. I think I’m going out then. Unless someone pops in to vote in the next two hours. Good luck finding the elims(whichever they may be) I’m going to ping everyone who hasn’t voted, and if it still looks like I’m going out 15ish before rollover I’ll get some final thoughts out Edit: lol forgot to ping them @Miss Fallen @Conure1243 @Akimikoisthecutest @Qianweilian @Through The Living Star Let's make this interesting I sure hope this is scenario 2 Mist. 2
Through The Living Star She/Her Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) Okay, so I'm just gonna include the votes, because I feel like everyone knows the claimed actions by now Votes Star: 3 (Striker, Mist, Verdance) Mist:3 (Mint, Doc, Fizz) People that haven't voted: Star, Qianwellian, Conure, Akimo, Fallen, and Mippo/___ Edited April 24 by Through The Living Star Adding people that didn't vote
___ He/Him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 I'm gonna be gone for rollover sooooo Don't be dumb people 1
Fizz9 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Lets all cross our fingers and sincerely hope that we get the elim. Unless you are the elim, in which case I say, You Must Die. 1
Verdance he/him Posted April 24 Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, Fizz9 said: Lets all cross our fingers and sincerely hope that we get the elim. Unless you are the elim, in which case I say, You Must Die. Agreeth, most verily. Let it be so. 1
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