Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 10 hours ago, Doc12 said: I also chose upstairs for my exploration. As I didn't receive a role and am still a villager, it's for sure scenario 2 Jokes aside, I do think it would be interesting for everyone to share where they explored last night. Won't be of any help in scenario 1, where (14x20%=3) players are motivated to lie, but in scenario 2 and 3 there's only 1 person motivated to lie would lie. One of the actual concrete hints could be the butler's gift. If in the vote count tonight a player's vote counts twice, we know we're in either scenario 1 or 3. The other way is clue-searching. I'm not completely sure of the mechanics between searching the house for clues or items, but from what I understand we have a 65% chance of finding a relevant clue and a 10-70% chance of finding an item (70% for the shoe, 10% for a useful item) It seems like searching for clues for the first couple rounds would be the helpful to determine exactly what kind of situation we've found ourselves in, but not after that. ------------------------------- Verna gasped in delight. Placing her hand on the deck, she closed her eyes. Her slender fingers tapped the cards, before settling on one that called to her. She pulled it. A great crescent moon in the sky, a goddess watching, moon motes like possibilities drifting into the city below. "Art thou pale for weariness Of climbing Heaven, and gazing on the earth, Wandering companionless Among the stars that have a different birth,— And ever changing, like a joyless eye That finds no object worth its constancy?" Verna let out a happy sigh. "What a gift. Thank you, dearest." She lifted her veil, just slightly enough that Brax might catch a glimpse of a pale face and dark lips curved into a smile. "Now, you must name something I might give you in return." (Poem by Percy Bysshe Shelley) Brax slid the deck into his pocket, bowing as he did so. “That’s hardly necessary, the cards do the talking, not me” He smiled back, “Though… There’s an entire house here, filled with secrets and surprises. It’d be a shame to waste it.” “Verna, isn’t it? I don’t think I introduced myself, I’m called Brax, a magician of sorts”
Miss Fallen she/her Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 hours ago, Mist. said: Yeah, but it’s all a numbers thing, regardless, with clues it’s numbers, with exploration it’s numbers. I actually think the gift is the best way to figure it out, whoever has the gift knows they do, and can watch their vote to see if they got anything(unless their Elim or Kandra or have the gun) Edit: I suppose I should clarify, the person with the gift should only claim that once they know for sure what the scenario is, if we haven’t figured it out by then(the NK could be helpful in figuring it out) until then do not claim it. Fair; we just try to figure out the scenario all the ways, combining our info, and only use gift as a last resort. I like this plan
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 Just now, Miss Fallen said: Fair; we just try to figure out the scenario all the ways, combining our info, and only use gift as a last resort. I like this plan Theoretically, if we got perfect search results, we could figure it out, but even that I’d say is sketchy, because I wouldn’t put it past the Elim team(either the actual team, Kandra, or person with the gun) to lie about finding a clue. But the percentages on the clues(from what I understand) plus the fact that it’s either searching or using a role ability, means we probably won’t get many clues quickly, and so it’s best to search when we can(there’s no downside if you don’t have a role) but it may not be the best thing to rely on. Oh, also, to clarify even more about the NK thing. From what I’m getting from the rules, the person with the gun has to NK someone or else they die, which isn’t true of the Kandra or normal Elim team, so that means if no one dies N1, we know it’s not scenario 2, if someone does, and they have a role, I think that means we’re not in scenario 3, because I believe all Kandra people are revealed as not having a role(I think). Feel free to correct me, but the NK could be very informative 1
StrikerEZ he/him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 Oh that’s a good point about the role thing. Roles do get revealed upon death right? We can theoretically rule out the Kandra if we see a role upon death. Because the only way to die at night in each scenario is by the elim(s)/gun. All that assumes we do get roles upon death though. I’m busy right now so can’t go check the rules.
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Oh that’s a good point about the role thing. Roles do get revealed upon death right? We can theoretically rule out the Kandra if we see a role upon death. Because the only way to die at night in each scenario is by the elim(s)/gun. All that assumes we do get roles upon death though. I’m busy right now so can’t go check the rules. So, I did go and check the rules, and I found this. Quote Each Night turn you can steal another player’s body (by attacking them) and discard your current one, which will be revealed as a dead Explorer in the writeup. And that makes me think that they’re revealed as having no role, especially when paired with this Quote Exploration roles of attacked players are not retained So I think that we can. @Araris Valerianmind checking me on that?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 14 minutes ago, Mist. said: So, I did go and check the rules, and I found this. And that makes me think that they’re revealed as having no role, especially when paired with this So I think that we can. @Araris Valerianmind checking me on that? Yeah, rules as written, a body the Kandra discards would always flip as vanilla.
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 3 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: Yeah, rules as written, a body the Kandra discards would always flip as vanilla. Alright, that’s nice. We’ll have to keep it in mind when the NK results are in. I just remembered that we try not to vote new people(I’m pretty sure Striker is new, I haven’t played a game with you, so idk) VC: Mint(1): Striker Qian(1): Wahr Doc(1): Dive Fizz(1): ____ Wahr(1): Fizz Yeah, that’s not helpful either, yeah, we don’t have much. And I don’t think there’s anything mechanical that could help us right now. I guess I’ll add to the ties. Fallen cause why not, I wasn’t able to vote her last game. Updated VC: Mint(1): Striker Qian(1): Wahr Doc(1): Dive Fizz(1): ____ Wahr(1): Fizz Fallen(1): Mist
StrikerEZ he/him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 11 minutes ago, Mist. said: I just remembered that we try not to vote new people(I’m pretty sure Striker is new, I haven’t played a game with you, so idk) Nah you can keep your vote on me if you want. I’ve been playing since 2017. 2
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 29 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Nah you can keep your vote on me if you want. I’ve been playing since 2017. Nevermind then : ) I probably won’t switch it back, there’s not really a reason for me to. One person’s as good as another right now. Besides, Sibling Backstabbing
Doc12 Posted April 20 Posted April 20 10 hours ago, Mist. said: Brax slid the deck into his pocket, bowing as he did so. “That’s hardly necessary, the cards do the talking, not me” He smiled back, “Though… There’s an entire house here, filled with secrets and surprises. It’d be a shame to waste it.” “Verna, isn’t it? I don’t think I introduced myself, I’m called Brax, a magician of sorts” Sounds like a invitation to find a bedroom to me Wouldn't happen to have "The Lovers" in that deck of yours would you? Sounds like we've got some ideas on how to rule scenarios out. Clue searching, butler's gift , NK. So it's just waiting til tonight. Lot of poke votes so far, no one's really acting suspicious yet. Who hasn't shown up yet ? Akimiko is the cutest how are you? You're the only one who hasn't responded to my PMs. @Akimikoisthecutest
Verdance he/him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: Sounds like a invitation to find a bedroom to me Wouldn't happen to have "The Lovers" in that deck of yours would you? Sounds like we've got some ideas on how to rule scenarios out. Clue searching, butler's gift , NK. So it's just waiting til tonight. Lot of poke votes so far, no one's really acting suspicious yet. Who hasn't shown up yet ? Akimiko is the cutest how are you? You're the only one who hasn't responded to my PMs. @Akimikoisthecutest She hasn’t been online since Friday. I have a feeling the mods wouldn’t like this but it’s funny —— Harley stares at Brax from the top of the stairs, attempting to find something smart to say, then just leaves silently, irritated.
Qianweilian He/him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 On 4/19/2026 at 3:19 AM, Through the living Wahr said: Now I will poke vote Qian Sorry for my inactivity, I was super busy Saturday and Sunday. I'll analyze people's stuff more later. I explored the basement.
Conure1243 He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 I explored ground floor for character reasons. As for a vote, I'm not sure I have one yet... We'll see
Akimikoisthecutest Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 hours ago, Doc12 said: Sounds like a invitation to find a bedroom to me Wouldn't happen to have "The Lovers" in that deck of yours would you? Sounds like we've got some ideas on how to rule scenarios out. Clue searching, butler's gift , NK. So it's just waiting til tonight. Lot of poke votes so far, no one's really acting suspicious yet. Who hasn't shown up yet ? Akimiko is the cutest how are you? You're the only one who hasn't responded to my PMs. @Akimikoisthecutest Hi, yeah sorry. I was offline all weekend and will be most weekends... But I'm here now!
Qianweilian He/him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) I'm going to poke vote mippo (or ____ if I must). You haven't responded, and your username is atrocious. @___ Edited April 20 by Qianweilian
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 4 hours ago, Doc12 said: Sounds like a invitation to find a bedroom to me Wouldn't happen to have "The Lovers" in that deck of yours would you? Sounds like we've got some ideas on how to rule scenarios out. Clue searching, butler's gift , NK. So it's just waiting til tonight. Lot of poke votes so far, no one's really acting suspicious yet. Who hasn't shown up yet ? Akimiko is the cutest how are you? You're the only one who hasn't responded to my PMs. @Akimikoisthecutest Unfortunately that’s not a card I have, the closest I think would be either Star or sun yeah, it’s just waiting, as for people showing up, I think we’re just missing @Conure1243
Mint11 she/her Posted April 20 Posted April 20 5 hours ago, Doc12 said: Sounds like a invitation to find a bedroom to me Wouldn't happen to have "The Lovers" in that deck of yours would you? well now I'm shipping it I do think voting is more productive in finding baddies when we put pressure on players, so I'm going to break the tie. These are all over the place rn which makes it easy for someone (or many someone's) to hide. Quote I’m seeing a lot of ground floor and upstairs. So unless the luck went wonky, that seems to suggest scenario 1 or 2. Just going by weights(remember this is all chance do there’s no guarantee that this is accurate) In scenario 1, that would suggest an Elim in Striker or I(I admit, I explored the basement for the express purpose of weighting my chances of being Elim, since I felt scenario 1 was likely from what people said) or perhaps both. In scenario 2, that suggests the gun in Wahr, Fizz, Star and ____ *these aren’t complete lists and it’s very chance based, so I’m not sure how helpful it’ll be, but the weighting should be mostly accurate in scenario 1, since there’s 3 chances of Elim. I think either way though we can soft clear the people who explored upstairs for now(obviously not anyone after this post, but the people who claimed before this) because while it’s not bulletproof, it leaves the chances in our favor Striker this post from mist reads village to me. not many people are putting out suspicions so far, so I don't see an incentive for someone who's against the village to draw attention to themselves like that I'm also inclined to read fallen as village for suggesting we prioritize clues. Information is the main advantage whoever the elim(s) is has over the village right now, I imagine they'd want to keep it. Not much to go on, but I'm going to vote Wahr. I'm seeing a couple posts pointing out that exploration and clues are unreliable. Which is true, but I'd be curious on thoughts on how we should best go about solving this @Through the living Wahr Mint(1): Striker Qian(1): Wahr Doc(1): Dive Fizz(1): ____/mippo Wahr(2): Fizz, Mint Fallen(1): Mist Akimiko(1): Doc ___/mippo(1): Qian Upstairs: Dive, Doc, Ver, Fallen, Middle Floor: Wahr, Star, ____, Fizz, Conure, Basement: Mist, Striker, Mint,
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 Why is it always me? So there is not much we can do, we need to vote out someone, that much is true but maybe not me? Now I agree that we need to search for clues to find out whats going on, problem is we will need a lot of clues and have to hope that they are reliable, so that we can determine based on how often the diffrent Clues appear what the most likely Scenario is. If we get Lucky an execution tells us whats going on. Now I know that most of this has already been said by other people but there isnt really anything to add at the moment, will need to see how it goes. For self preservation Purposes I will move my Vote from Qian to Mint so that there is a tie again and I may survive. Its also interesting how none of us (me included) had a very strong reaction to being poked.
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 14 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said: Why is it always me? So there is not much we can do, we need to vote out someone, that much is true but maybe not me? Now I agree that we need to search for clues to find out whats going on, problem is we will need a lot of clues and have to hope that they are reliable, so that we can determine based on how often the diffrent Clues appear what the most likely Scenario is. If we get Lucky an execution tells us whats going on. Now I know that most of this has already been said by other people but there isnt really anything to add at the moment, will need to see how it goes. For self preservation Purposes I will move my Vote from Qian to Mint so that there is a tie again and I may survive. It’s also interesting how none of us (me included) had a very strong reaction to being poked. I mean, for now it’s a kinda “why not you?” That’s kinda how it is for everyone(excluding new players) Well that’s easy to answer. Yall said it was a poke vote. It doesn’t work unless you make them feel like you have something against them.
___ He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 3 hours ago, Qianweilian said: I'm going to poke vote mippo (or ____ if I must). You haven't responded, and your username is atrocious. @___ Bruh I've responded twice 46 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said: Why is it always me? Last time you said this you were elim...
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 1 minute ago, ___ said: Last time you said this you were elim... Yes but it also has happened every game before then, I have always complained about it, and was both times village. It is my standard (and very justified) reaction when people want to kill me D1 for literally nothing.
Qianweilian He/him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 3 minutes ago, ___ said: Bruh I've responded twice Oh, sorry. I didn't notice.
___ He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 1 minute ago, Through the living Wahr said: Yes but it also has happened every game before then, I have always complained about it, and was both times village. It is my standard (and very justified) reaction when people want to kill me D1 for literally nothing. Fair
Myst He/Him Posted April 20 Posted April 20 On a side note. Doc’s rep is at Kandra. Araris, we’d better not be in a scenario 3 with him as the Kandra Just now, Through the living Wahr said: Yes but it also has happened every game before then, I have always complained about it, and was both times village. It is my standard (and very justified) reaction when people want to kill me D1 for literally nothing. Well, we have to kill someone, so someone’s getting killed for literally nothing either way. I’m leaning against E!wahr though. I haven’t seen your Elim profile yet(perhaps it’s because I’ve been beating you to it)
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