Trans Hangout Thread

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

9 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Ok, I'll try it tomorrow

Wish me luck

GLL

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12 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Ok, I'll try it tomorrow

Wish me luck

*hugs*

GOOD LUCK AKI!!!

[Akimikoisthecutest]

So, my Auncle is in town today and they want to meet with the whole family, and they're the singular adult I'm out to, and I came out to them the last time I saw them before they moved. I'm worried it's going to be super awkward

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12 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

So, my Auncle is in town today and they want to meet with the whole family, and they're the singular adult I'm out to, and I came out to them the last time I saw them before they moved. I'm worried it's going to be super awkward

Uh oh

*hugs*

Good luck!!!! I hope it's all okay

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

21 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

So, my Auncle is in town today and they want to meet with the whole family, and they're the singular adult I'm out to, and I came out to them the last time I saw them before they moved. I'm worried it's going to be super awkward

Any news?

[Akimikoisthecutest]

5 hours ago, Usseewa said:

Any news?

Not really. Nothing much happened although I outed myself to a new friend I met yesterday. We were all hanging out, 3 out of the 4 other people knew I was trans, so I texted the group chat with the people I knew and the new person was on one of my friends phones, so now they know.

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

29 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Not really. Nothing much happened although I outed myself to a new friend I met yesterday. We were all hanging out, 3 out of the 4 other people knew I was trans, so I texted the group chat with the people I knew and the new person was on one of my friends phones, so now they know.

How'd they take it?

[Akimikoisthecutest]

2 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

How'd they take it?

Well? I think?

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

Just now, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Well? I think?

Das gud

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9 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Not really. Nothing much happened although I outed myself to a new friend I met yesterday. We were all hanging out, 3 out of the 4 other people knew I was trans, so I texted the group chat with the people I knew and the new person was on one of my friends phones, so now they know.

YAAAAAAAYYYYYYY

*hugs*

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

Is this what euphoria feels like?

I look in the mirror and see a girl, then get all giddy and happy and excited.

Edit: I'll add some more. So, I look in the mirror and look decently cute and also like I could be a girl, so it's cool, and then I focus on that and stuff and think about it to...make myself giddy? I do that sometimes with other stuff...like once to try to help me study to try and give m'self motivation.

Idk.

But I like looking in mirrors on good hair/face days, when it looks almost like a short women's haircut or smth.

Edited February 15 by Usseewa

[Hmmm lies she/her]

55 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

Is this what euphoria feels like?

I look in the mirror and see a girl, then get all giddy and happy and excited.

Edit: I'll add some more. So, I look in the mirror and look decently cute and also like I could be a girl, so it's cool, and then I focus on that and stuff and think about it to...make myself giddy? I do that sometimes with other stuff...like once to try to help me study to try and give m'self motivation.

Idk.

But I like looking in mirrors on good hair/face days, when it looks almost like a short women's haircut or smth.

It's euphoria all right. Sometimes thinking about being a girl specifically to make oneself euphoric works.

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

1 minute ago, Hmmm lies said:

It's euphoria all right. Sometimes thinking about being a girl specifically to make oneself euphoric works.

Yippee :3

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

17 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Not really. Nothing much happened although I outed myself to a new friend I met yesterday. We were all hanging out, 3 out of the 4 other people knew I was trans, so I texted the group chat with the people I knew and the new person was on one of my friends phones, so now they know.

YAYAYAYA

[Akimikoisthecutest]

3 hours ago, Usseewa said:

Is this what euphoria feels like?

I look in the mirror and see a girl, then get all giddy and happy and excited.

Edit: I'll add some more. So, I look in the mirror and look decently cute and also like I could be a girl, so it's cool, and then I focus on that and stuff and think about it to...make myself giddy? I do that sometimes with other stuff...like once to try to help me study to try and give m'self motivation.

Idk.

But I like looking in mirrors on good hair/face days, when it looks almost like a short women's haircut or smth.

That is most definitely euphoria! I don't get to experience it that much but I can tell you for a fact that is undoubtedly euphoria

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

Just now, Akimikoisthecutest said:

That is most definitely euphoria! I don't get to experience it that much but I can tell you for a fact that is undoubtedly euphoria

That's nice to hear, thx

[Aeoryi she/her]

9 hours ago, Usseewa said:

Is this what euphoria feels like?

I look in the mirror and see a girl, then get all giddy and happy and excited.

Edit: I'll add some more. So, I look in the mirror and look decently cute and also like I could be a girl, so it's cool, and then I focus on that and stuff and think about it to...make myself giddy? I do that sometimes with other stuff...like once to try to help me study to try and give m'self motivation.

Idk.

But I like looking in mirrors on good hair/face days, when it looks almost like a short women's haircut or smth.

That's awesome!

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

@Hmmm lies ur on HRT, right?

Pls tell me abt it i need hope and smth to look forward to cuz hrt sounds great and i want ittttt and idk

 

also i think im back to feeling like a girl, so that's good. or ..  like feeling trans?

idk shrug totallynotgenderfluidwdym

no fr i have no idea

Edited February 16 by Usseewa

[Hmmm lies she/her]

Just now, Usseewa said:

@Hmmm lies ur on HRT, right?

Pls tell me abt it i need hope and smth to look forward to cuz hrt sounds great and i want ittttt and idk

Oooh, I'm always up for infodumping about a topic like this!

Ok, so, feminizing HRT is composed of two main thingies. Spironolactone, the anti-androgen, and estradiol, the estrogen. Sometimes other chemicals are used, but these are the most common by far. The former (sometimes taken on it's own as a puberty blocker) prevents testosterone from acting in one's body. It stops your voice from getting any deeper than it already is, and will prevent further masculine characteristics. Eventually, you might stop taking it if either your body has stopped producing it, which can happen after bottom surgery, or if your estrogen dosage is high enough.

Estrogen on the other hand, is where the real effects are. It takes a while, but it's real good. Breast development for me started around 2-3 months after starting HRT, though it's not much. Wikipedia says it can take 2-5 years for them to grow fully. Of course, my dosage is pretty low, but will likely be increased soon. Oh, I should mention that, you'll typically be started off with a low dose, and then after a few months you'll have a blood test and look at the effects so far and potentially increase your dosage.

Anyway there's other effects that aren't so obvious. Supposedly, it changes one's figure and face to be more feminine, but I'm honestly not very observant and haven't noticed if that's happening, and also increases thigh size.

There's also a decrease in libido that is typical, but temporary. I've heard that after 9 months or so, it comes back, even more powerful than before, and sexuality just feels better in general.

And then the emotional changes are just wonderful. I've felt really good for a good while, and best of all, it's almost completely cured my body-related dysphoria, independent of physical changes. For some reason, I just feel good about my body now.

Oh it also makes one infertile, which might be a problem for some, but there's ways around that.

 

There's also progesterone, which is mainly for trans women who've been on HRT for years, and I'm not a huge expert on it, but I hear it increases breast size more, and improves mood as well. Idk though, not super relevant anyway.

 

Lemme know if you have any questions!

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

oooohhh ty! i see no downsides, just a bunch of upsides

 

6 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Lemme know if you have any questions!

will it make me happy

how long did u wait before egg-crack to hrt-take. or from questioning to hrt. or smth.

[Hmmm lies she/her]

2 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

will it make me happy

I would hope so

3 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

how long did u wait before egg-crack to hrt-take. or from questioning to hrt. or smth.

Around 18 months, far longer than I would have liked, but it is possible to get it faster, and my circumstance was in part due to some miscommunications. If you did everything as fast as possible, I'd say 3-9 months would be reasonable. (I'm not sure on the actual numbers)

[Aeoryi she/her]

15 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

@Hmmm lies ur on HRT, right?

Pls tell me abt it i need hope and smth to look forward to cuz hrt sounds great and i want ittttt and idk

 

also i think im back to feeling like a girl, so that's good. or ..  like feeling trans?

idk shrug totallynotgenderfluidwdym

no fr i have no idea

Okay can I just dump some stuff in that's not what I made but someone else did

BUT FIRST

3 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

There's also progesterone, which is mainly for trans women who've been on HRT for years, and I'm not a huge expert on it, but I hear it increases breast size more, and improves mood as well. Idk though, not super relevant anyway.

Crash course on reproductive hormones:

Regardless of gender, the hypothalamus (in the brain) will make a hormone called GNRH (gonadotropic releasing hormone) which triggers the pituitary gland (also in the brain) to release LH (leutinizing hormone) and FSH (follicle-stimulating hormone). In the biological male, FSH will trigger the production of the male gametes, and LH will trigger the production of testosterone. If the level of testosterone falls, the Hypothalamus will release more GNRH to make sure that more LH is being made to make more testosterone. If the level rises too high, it'll make less to make sure less testosterone is being produced. 

In the biological female body, LH and FSH do different things. FSH will trigger the development of the egg cell follicle (which is kinda like a sac that holds the gamete) and the follicle will make estrogen. Estrogen tells the brain to make more LH and less FSH (don't ask why it's complex), and also contributes to the endometrium in the uterus being built up. After about thirteen days, the follicle bursts and the egg is released, yatta yatta yatta. Assuming that a zygote is not made, the follicle that burst develops into the corpus luteum, which releases estrogen and progesterone. Progesterone causes the uterine lining to become more glandular/secretory (in preparation for if fertilization did occur), but inhibits the production of LH which thereby negative feedback occurs and the corpus luteum fades away. Since the body is now low on estrogen and progesterone, menstruation occurs and the cycle repeats.

So progesterone is like, important with those kinds of cycles. But obviously, those don't occur in trans people*. And estrogen (or prog) used here isn't to emulate a period. 

In terms of what progresterone does during female puberty, it's relatively unknown. As lies said, breast size stuff is linked to it but really we just kinda don't know. However, it does have some sort of role in female puberty so it's kinda just added to the mix because why not. 

You don't need to take prog in most scenarios, but often times when you start out it will probably have prog involved

(also definitely not being lazy and not scheduling an appointment for me to get HRT atm tbh)

[Hmmm lies she/her]

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

You don't need to take prog in most scenarios, but often times when you start out it will probably have prog involved

Really? Me and other trans people I know haven't. Maybe it's different in Canada?

[Aeoryi she/her]

9 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

oooohhh ty! i see no downsides, just a bunch of upsides

 

will it make me happy

how long did u wait before egg-crack to hrt-take. or from questioning to hrt. or smth.

The big downsides tend to be:

1. loss of fertility (not guaranteed, but very likely)
2. breast development is permanent
3. Mood changes and stuff (arguably a downside)
4. Mood changes and stuff (arguably a downside)

2 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Really? Me and other trans people I know haven't. Maybe it's different in Canada?

maybe that's the case that's just what someone told me. I think it depends where you get it from. 

[Hmmm lies she/her]

Just now, Aeoryi said:

• Mood changes and stuff (arguably a downside)

Idk what you're talking about, me and pretty much every other HRT user I know has been happy with mood changes