Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: That was me actually I didn't know PMs were unsigned. Could you spoiler the code phrase for *reasons* please? Done. also, to the person who sent me the other PM. I think I figured out what you’re asking, and I did some research(in other words I pasted it into google). I think I know how to respond(once I find a place that explains a standardized format for it) but I don’t know who to ping for it, or whether I’m supposed to PM you… so… yeah Edit: figuring out the format is harder than expected because I can’t find examples, this is not something I know how to do Edited March 12 by Mistfallen Soldier
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Done. also, to the person who sent me the other PM. I think I figured out what you’re asking, and I did some research(in other words I pasted it into google). I think I know how to respond(once I find a place that explains a standardized format for it) but I don’t know who to ping for it, or whether I’m supposed to PM you… so… yeah That was me. I didn't realise I was meant to sign my messages. I PM'd you, Doc, and Burnt to check if any failed to send. All were successful. Edit: I'm studying networks at the moment, so I was going to just send the message "Ping" but I thought it would be more fun to format it. The ping command sends an ICMP echo request which most devices are polite enough to acknowledge to confirm the connection. It felt appropriate for the situation. Edit 2: Quote Edit: figuring out the format is harder than expected because I can’t find examples, this is not something I know how to do Yeah, what I sent isn't really following a fixed format anyway. An actual ICMP message is just going to be a string of binary flags, and you wouldn't receive an external ping from 127.0.0.1 anyway, that's the local IP address for the device to test it's own connections. Edited March 12 by Haelbarde
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Also, to whoever sent me what I can only assume is a puzzle of some sort, uh, screw you too? 2
Doc12 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) Ookay that was wild. Ash with that last minute essay was spicy. Like sriracha. Not going to announce anything I can't prove yet. Also got a whole bunch of PMs like Mist. Guess everyone was sending test PMs lol. @The Unknown Medallion Spoiler Doc didn't delve deep in his dig for the Stone Mask @Haelbarde ...Ping right back at you? 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Also, to whoever sent me what I can only assume is a puzzle of some sort, uh, screw you too? Seconded xD I assume that was Archer. I'm going to have to spend a while on that. ---- Are we still doing the thing where Burnt Mist and I put a single vote on each other? I know Ash said he wants to leave us 3 alone but that's also a good way to check for Stone, no? It's probably more reliable than PMs at any rate. Mistfallen (stone mask purposes) Edited March 12 by Doc12
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Doc12 said: Ookay that was wild. Ash with that last minute essay was spicy. Like sriracha. Not going to announce anything I can't prove yet. Also got a whole bunch of PMs like Mist. Guess everyone was sending test PMs lol. @The Unknown Medallion Reveal hidden contents Doc didn't delve deep in his dig for the Stone Mask @Haelbarde ...Ping right back at you? I assume the password riddle was Archer. I'm going to have to spend a while on that. ---- Are we still doing the thing where Burnt Mist and I put a single vote on each other? I know Ash said he wants to leave us 3 alone but that's also a good way to check for Stone, no? It's probably more reliable than PMs at any rate. Mistfallen (stone mask purposes) Did you not get Keaton? Also yeah, I forgot about that. Burnt(also stone mask purposes) Everyone else, I suggest voting Hael or twin. If you don’t trust me, trust Doc or Ash(check out his last post of N1C
Doc12 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Did you not get Keaton? Also yeah, I forgot about that. Burnt(also stone mask purposes) Everyone else, I suggest voting Hael or twin. If you don’t trust me, trust Doc or Ash(check out his last post of N1C I can say I got it, but won't be able to prove it until D3 with the test Ash suggested as I have to spend the day equipping it. Also didn't he instruct you not to announce it anyways?
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Doc12 said: I can say I got it, but won't be able to prove it until D3 with the test Ash suggested as I have to spend the day equipping it. Also didn't he instruct you not to announce it anyways? I didn’t get a PM from Ash(it turned out to be from TUM) and no, he didn’t tell me not to announce it. Not in thread nor in PM As for testing mine, I’d prefer not to die(especially because that means we’d have to exe the right one out of Hael and Twin)
Archer he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 @Haelbarde Spoiler Archer ain't asking Aman or Apprentice Ap for any accessories. Correct me if I'm wrong, PM stuff means nothing today, right? Because of OOA stuff. We've got time, I think we should nail down our working theory on which of Burnt and Mistfallen are evil. We're going to have to commit to one of those to build the team around if we're nibbling around the edges. There's voting records related to the TS and Hael almost exes we can look at.
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Archer said: @Haelbarde Reveal hidden contents Archer ain't asking Aman or Apprentice Ap for any accessories. Correct me if I'm wrong, PM stuff means nothing today, right? Because of OOA stuff. We've got time, I think we should nail down our working theory on which of Burnt and Mistfallen are evil. We're going to have to commit to one of those to build the team around if we're nibbling around the edges. There's voting records related to the TS and Hael almost exes we can look at. Yeah, today it means nothing, and like, we won’t know when the person decides to equip the mask, so it may not be relevant for a bit. Id like to advocate for me be village, in case that wasn’t obvious Edit: @The Unknown Medallion were your messages slightly different to each person? Edited March 12 by Mistfallen Soldier
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Archer said: @Haelbarde Hide contents Archer ain't asking Aman or Apprentice Ap for any accessories. Correct me if I'm wrong, PM stuff means nothing today, right? Because of OOA stuff. I find it amusing that me and Hael presumably both went for alliterative codes Actually, no, it just means they didn't Equip last night. We'll check again today, incase votes don't work for some reason Actually, @Doc12, @Mistfallen Soldier, @Burnt Spaghetti, don't vote each other as that leaves you open to the Bremen (mildly sus of Doc for suggesting it). You should vote separate people who are not up for the exe or Stone Mask candidates
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, The Unknown Medallion said: I find it amusing that me and Hael presumably both went for alliterative codes Actually, no, it just means they didn't Equip last night. We'll check again today, incase votes don't work for some reason Actually, @Doc12, @Mistfallen Soldier, @Burnt Spaghetti, don't vote each other as that leaves you open to the Bremen (mildly sus of Doc for suggesting it). You should vote separate people who are not up for the exe or Stone Mask candidates That’s true of anyone no matter who does the voting. How would is voting each other change that?. Also, Doc’s response doesn’t match what you told me in the PM.
Archer he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, The Unknown Medallion said: I find it amusing that me and Hael presumably both went for alliterative codes I didn't get a PM from Hael, I just wanted in on the fun 12 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Id like to advocate for me be village, in case that wasn’t obvious Oh good, that makes things easier. Now my next question is, if E!Burnt bought Stone by misrepresenting their funds, which E!teammate bought Scent L2? Actually, that might be too long a shortlist to be useful, but I think it might exclude some of the peripheral players.
Doc12 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: I find it amusing that me and Hael presumably both went for alliterative codes Actually, no, it just means they didn't Equip last night. We'll check again today, incase votes don't work for some reason Actually, @Doc12, @Mistfallen Soldier, @Burnt Spaghetti, don't vote each other as that leaves you open to the Bremen (mildly sus of Doc for suggesting it). You should vote separate people who are not up for the exe or Stone Mask candidates Actually, this was suggested last night and not even by me. And sure, the Bremen can cancel one of our votes, but also the stone person will still have all votes on them missing?
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Ash is village, but with all due respect, rule one of being a villager is that you'll sometimes have bad takes. I don't see a decent reason for Ash's assumption that only 1 of the 50 rupees club could be evil. I do think Burnt is evil for all the reasons stated yesterday. Finally, hill is village and I'm lowkey prepared to die on that Hael (...I meant what I said ). I'm voting Burnt, which is what I think we probably should've done yesterday. There's a very real danger here that Burnt has the Stone Mask despite the apparent levels of certainty people had yesterday that this wasn't possible, but I think we just bite the bullet and take that risk. I happen to think that the group of Stone Mask afforders contains multiple elims, so refusing to push them just because it's risky or a pain isn't a workable option from my point of view. Engineering the votes so that our top 2 wagons are both evil is a royal pain, don't get me wrong. But I guess we'll just have to try our best. Anyways, I figure there's a decent chance e!Doc has the Stone Mask and e!Burnt doesn't. Petition Alvron to intercede for us to the gods of luck and chance, maybe. I'm behind on backreading, so maybe my views will change. It has been known to happen before, rarely but this is currently how I feel about the game state. 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, Archer said: I didn't get a PM from Hael, I just wanted in on the fun Oh good, that makes things easier. Now my next question is, if E!Burnt bought Stone by misrepresenting their funds, which E!teammate bought Scent L2? Actually, that might be too long a shortlist to be useful, but I think it might exclude some of the peripheral players. Well, potentially Coco, though she said she missed. If you want a list of people who could’ve. It’s easier for a list of people who couldn’t. Doc got bunny Ash, Wahr, and Tum we can exclude Araris got blast Archer got bremen Im excluding me because I didn’t get one(you don’t have to) Wonko got postman I don’t remember who got Dongoro(I believe wahr might have?) Twin didn’t have enough rupees Burnt(this requires her not to) TJ(didn’t have enough rupees) Could: Hael, Coco, Stick, Dive, Drake. thats 5 people, I think, who could have gotten it. I did make this list based on info in my head so it’s possible I got something wrong. But in answer to your question. I think maybe Hael 16 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Actually, this was suggested last night and not even by me. And sure, the Bremen can cancel one of our votes, but also the stone person will still have all votes on them missing? the potentially thing that could happen is Bremen cancel of your vote, and then since Burnt has Stone that results in my vote on her being removed, as well as your vote on her resulting in all three votes being removed, but that’s not really something we can change(I think) 1
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: That’s true of anyone no matter who does the voting. How would is voting each other change that?. Also, Doc’s response doesn’t match what you told me in the PM. Must have mixed up the old versions 16 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Actually, this was suggested last night and not even by me. And sure, the Bremen can cancel one of our votes, but also the stone person will still have all votes on them missing? If you agree vote each other, the Mask holder will have the vote on them removed, as well as the vote on the person they voted. If the Bremen soothes the third person, it could still be any of you. If you vote different people, Bremen will make it at most two suspects, potentially only one if an additional person votes each of you 7 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Ash is village, but with all due respect, rule one of being a villager is that you'll sometimes have bad takes. I don't see a decent reason for Ash's assumption that only 1 of the 50 rupees club could be evil. I do think Burnt is evil for all the reasons stated yesterday. Finally, hill is village and I'm lowkey prepared to die on that Hael (...I meant what I said ). I'm voting Burnt, which is what I think we probably should've done yesterday. There's a very real danger here that Burnt has the Stone Mask despite the apparent levels of certainty people had yesterday that this wasn't possible, but I think we just bite the bullet and take that risk. I happen to think that the group of Stone Mask afforders contains multiple elims, so refusing to push them just because it's risky or a pain isn't a workable option from my point of view. Engineering the votes so that our top 2 wagons are both evil is a royal pain, don't get me wrong. But I guess we'll just have to try our best. Anyways, I figure there's a decent chance e!Doc has the Stone Mask and e!Burnt doesn't. Petition Alvron to intercede for us to the gods of luck and chance, maybe. I'm behind on backreading, so maybe my views will change. It has been known to happen before, rarely but this is currently how I feel about the game state. Well I say Confirmed village equals Confirmed right, and since I'm Confirmed that must be true
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Archer help, what do monks wear on their heads 6 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Well I say Confirmed village equals Confirmed right, and since I'm Confirmed that must be true Well conveniently Aman told me I'm village so I must be confirmed right I mean, you don't know that. But I'm right, Trust Me Bro
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Ash is village, but with all due respect, rule one of being a villager is that you'll sometimes have bad takes. I don't see a decent reason for Ash's assumption that only 1 of the 50 rupees club could be evil. I do think Burnt is evil for all the reasons stated yesterday. Finally, hill is village and I'm lowkey prepared to die on that Hael (...I meant what I said ). I'm voting Burnt, which is what I think we probably should've done yesterday. There's a very real danger here that Burnt has the Stone Mask despite the apparent levels of certainty people had yesterday that this wasn't possible, but I think we just bite the bullet and take that risk. I happen to think that the group of Stone Mask afforders contains multiple elims, so refusing to push them just because it's risky or a pain isn't a workable option from my point of view. Engineering the votes so that our top 2 wagons are both evil is a royal pain, don't get me wrong. But I guess we'll just have to try our best. Anyways, I figure there's a decent chance e!Doc has the Stone Mask and e!Burnt doesn't. Petition Alvron to intercede for us to the gods of luck and chance, maybe. I'm behind on backreading, so maybe my views will change. It has been known to happen before, rarely but this is currently how I feel about the game state. From my perspective it makes sense, I know Burnt is Elim, and I’m reasonably confident Doc is village, which means that either Hael or Twin is elim(or both) so as long as we exe them it’s okay. Im leaning Hael(he was on my list in responding to archer) but I may be wrong and it’s twin. From your perspective I get that it’s not the same(stick thinks both me and Burnt are Elim) but I think it’s best to vote Hael or Twin. After all, yes, voting burnt would be good, but I’m pretty sure she’s invulnerable for this loop, so I’m not going to bother(except for confirming she has it)
Archer he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I'm scared about how often I agree with Drake's takes. I did think the Doc assumption was a leap. I like the idea that the elims assumed the exes would be MF and Burnt in an uncontrollable order. I think they were betting on Burnt survives D1 and gets Stone, or teammate gets stone and tanks the D2 exe. Or no one gets stone and we whiff on guess 3. I'd feel more confident as an elim going for it we had two shots at Stone. The fake scan is a bold move to go for without a decent advantage. 3 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Could: Hael, Coco, Stick, Dive, Drake We can just functionally assume it's Coco then, ya? We're already committed to them being evil. Other options include Stick and Dive who we're excluding from the target list this loop for having died. Thanks for running the numbers! Just now, DrakeMarshall said: Archer help, what do monks wear on their heads I dunno, cowls? What a specific question! Make sure you look for secret messages in the solved version, anyone who is doing cipher breaking of anonymous messages 1 minute ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: From my perspective it makes sense, I know Burnt is Elim, and I’m reasonably confident Doc is village, which means that either Hael or Twin is elim(or both) so as long as we exe them it’s okay. Im leaning Hael(he was on my list in responding to archer) but I may be wrong and it’s twin. From your perspective I get that it’s not the same(stick thinks both me and Burnt are Elim) but I think it’s best to vote Hael or Twin. After all, yes, voting burnt would be good, but I’m pretty sure she’s invulnerable for this loop, so I’m not going to bother(except for confirming she has it) You've got a head start on us, so my followup question to you is who died that was evil. Since you know it's Burnt, you should be able to guess at that
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Could: Hael, Coco, Stick, Dive, Drake. thats 5 people, I think, who could have gotten it. I did make this list based on info in my head so it’s possible I got something wrong. But in answer to your question. I think maybe Hael In case it helps, these are my earnings across the game. Loop A D1: 3, N1: 5, D2: 4, N2: 2, D3: 2, N3: 4; Total: 20 rupees Loop B D1: 6, N1: 2, D2: 1, N2: 0, D3: 0, N3: 0; Total: 9 rupees Loop C D1: 6, N1: 0; Total: 6 rupees So with the 10 initial rupees, 39 rupees by start of Loop C, or 45 rupees at start of N1-C. Now, I feel like I could have argued more rupees out of Aman, so if you wanted to verify those numbers against my posts, you might find that there's some posts that could potentially have earned rupees that didn't end up earning me any. The only PMs I've sent this game were the three last night.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Haelbarde said: Now, I feel like I could have argued more rupees out of Aman, so if you wanted to verify those numbers against my posts, you might find that there's some posts that could potentially have earned rupees that didn't end up earning me any. The only PMs I've sent this game were the three last night. Oh. If this is true you can any point show me your counts with links, I am one guy doing a lot so I am sure I missed some
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: Oh. If this is true you can any point show me your counts with links, I am one guy doing a lot so I am sure I missed some Unless doing so would let me retroactively bid for masks I might otherwise have been able to afford, I don't see that it greatly matters much
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: From my perspective it makes sense, I know Burnt is Elim, and I’m reasonably confident Doc is village, which means that either Hael or Twin is elim(or both) so as long as we exe them it’s okay. Im leaning Hael(he was on my list in responding to archer) but I may be wrong and it’s twin. From your perspective I get that it’s not the same(stick thinks both me and Burnt are Elim) but I think it’s best to vote Hael or Twin. After all, yes, voting burnt would be good, but I’m pretty sure she’s invulnerable for this loop, so I’m not going to bother(except for confirming she has it) Yeah well I'm unreasonably confident Hael is village! which is ironic, because I'm the one who gave reasons for my read I'm sorry I'm being unnecessarily fighty but Mayor Ash may have awakened something demonic if you insist on doing a vote in <Hael, Twin> based on a dubious PoE will you at least consider respecting that Hael looks quite village from D3A and voting Twin instead?
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 Just now, Haelbarde said: Unless doing so would let me retroactively bid for masks I might otherwise have been able to afford, I don't see that it greatly matters much Oh sure let me grab my real ocarina and rewind time a few weeks, brb 3
Myst He/Him Posted March 12 Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, Archer said: I'm scared about how often I agree with Drake's takes. I did think the Doc assumption was a leap. I like the idea that the elims assumed the exes would be MF and Burnt in an uncontrollable order. I think they were betting on Burnt survives D1 and gets Stone, or teammate gets stone and tanks the D2 exe. Or no one gets stone and we whiff on guess 3. I'd feel more confident as an elim going for it we had two shots at Stone. The fake scan is a bold move to go for without a decent advantage. We can just functionally assume it's Coco then, ya? We're already committed to them being evil. Other options include Stick and Dive who we're excluding from the target list this loop for having died. Thanks for running the numbers! I dunno, cowls? What a specific question! Make sure you look for secret messages in the solved version, anyone who is doing cipher breaking of anonymous messages You've got a head start on us, so my followup question to you is who died that was evil. Since you know it's Burnt, you should be able to guess at that Alright, but before I do that, @TwinStorm because Aman didn’t do it. People who died: Araris, TJ, Stick, Wonko, Drake, Dive, Archer, Ash. Ash: auto-clear Araris/Archer: volunteered to blow up and went threw with it - not Elim Dive: Coco voted Dive over Burnt. Meaning that she wanted Dive to get voted out(which doesn’t make sense if Dive is Elim. Drake: has been very helpful with analysis, pointing out stuff we missed or ignored. Also, when he subbed in he asked all sorts of questions. Which an Elim wouldn’t do because he could get the answers from the Elim doc, and doing it this way risked revealing info. Wonko: has been helpful, I originally thought he was Elim due to his resistance to the blast mask, but now that we now he had postman that’s explained, not Elim. TJ: TJ has been very active after irl stuff was cleared up, and has been providing solid analysis. Also, the slip up in the dead doc was apparently a reaction test Stick: I think she’s Elim. Ironically for similar reasons to how she outed me last game. She’s been acting real similar to when we were teammates. A lot of her posts have had not a lot of analysis, or non at all. She’s been very “unsure” of her votes throughout everything, she’s very distant, only posting occasionally, and hasn’t posted a lot of reads in general. She’s also was a candidate for the scents mask. So Stick. The Elim team is either Burnt/Coco/Stick/Hael or Burnt/Coco/Stick/Twin Im not sure which. And I feel like exeing Twin or Hael is the smart play here because Coco is already exed, Burnt is invincible, and I think it’d be easier to convince yall to vote them than Stick(plus the Hael/Twin hedges against me being wrong)
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