ruler of the mists He/His/the survivor of the pit Posted March 28, 2025 Posted March 28, 2025 it is just a headcannon
Entr0pic He/him Posted March 28, 2025 Posted March 28, 2025 (edited) So, i think they’re similar, but different. biggest difference: a duralumin compounder can’t access the spiritual realm with their compounding alone secondly: a duralumin compounder doesn’t have adhesion or anything equivalent thirdly: a duralumin compounder can only manipulate their own connection, not others Also, I’d like to bring up that this should prob go in general cosmere discussion. @#1 Taln Fan, could you help with that? Edited March 28, 2025 by Entr0pic 1
#1 Taln Fan he/him Posted March 29, 2025 Posted March 29, 2025 6 hours ago, Entr0pic said: Also, I’d like to bring up that this should prob go in general cosmere discussion. @#1 Taln Fan, could you help with that? @ruler of the mists Entropic is correct. Since your post involves info/spoilers from Stormlight as well, I've moved it to the Cosmere discussion forum. 1
alder24 Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 On 3/28/2025 at 7:48 PM, ruler of the mists said: it is just a headcannon Basically, yes. They are using the same kind of mechanism via different methods. There are of course many differences (listed already by Entr0pic), but just as Ashynite Bondsmiths are still called Bondsmitsh by Rosharans, just like an Elantrian manipulating Connections would be called a Bondsmith as well, Rosharans would most likely call him a Bondsmith and his powers as Bondsmithing. They are very similar. Spoiler Argent In the Syl interlude in Rhythm of War, she is speaking with Dalinar about his powers and the things those powers have done in the past. And what she says is "a Bondsmith bound other Surges". First of all, what other Surges? Brandon Sanderson One potential interpretation for you on this, remember they use Surge and spren sometimes interchangeably in-world. Just making you aware of that. Argent Yeah I'm aware of that. Bound other Surges.... Brandon Sanderson That might be what she's talking about. I'm not guaranteeing it. Argent Then the term Bondsmith. To me it seems like she's talking about Ishar and the Ashyn stuff. So would they use Bondsmith to describe him in that place? Argent And that would be maybe the power of Connection, the way Lightweaving is the power of illusion? Brandon Sanderson So one other thing to keep aware of in the cosmere - for instance they call "Lightweaving" any illusion-based magic working on the same fundamentals. And so you could argue - and people will use it that way in-world - that Bondsmithing is both an order [of Knights Radiant] and a power that exists outside the order. Brandon Sanderson Yes. And for instance, there were not Elsecallers to get people between Ashyn and Roshar, but on Roshar they would explain what happened there as Elsecalling. Does that make sense? Argent I mean, as much as these things make sense, yes. JordanCon 2021 (July 17, 2021) Spoiler Argent. Could you use AonDor to manipulate Connection? If so, would a real AonDor smarty be able to do something similar to a Bondsmith? Brandon Sanderson The short answer to your question is: yes. Let me give some explanation. Even when you are seeings some things happening in Elantris itself, you are seeing them manipulate Connection. It is mostly reinforcing Connection, but it is, in a way, manipulation. Rewriting Connection, rewriting Identity are both things that they can do. So with enough power, with enough smartiness, what a Bondsmith can do can be done. In fact, we have seen short-range Elsecalling done by… Obviously Elsecalling’s not Bondsmithing, but you know that a Bondsmith powered a big Elsecalling [to migrate from Ashyn], one of the big things you’ve seen a Bondsmith do is get people between planets. And you have seen people use AonDor to Elsecall. You’ve seen them Lightweave, you’ve seen them do a lot of these things. They also could do some of this same stuff. Basically, rule of thumb is: almost anything in the cosmere that is possible can be replicated with AonDor with the right program. But you may need an injection of Investiture in certain ways. Dragonsteel 2022 (Nov. 14, 2022) On 3/28/2025 at 7:53 PM, Entr0pic said: biggest difference: a duralumin compounder can’t access the spiritual realm with their compounding alone Theoretically speaking, any compounder can do this. Enough investiture in one place will create a perpendicularity. It's not exactly the same thing a Bondsmith can do but it's still something close to it. Spoiler TheFulgid Could you Invest... Could you use a nicrosil metalmind to Invest the sort of Investiture enough that you could open a Perpendicularity up to the Cognitive Realm? Brandon Sanderson So, I'll just say it this way. Enough concentrated Investiture in one point is going to pierce the Realms, no matter what form it takes. TheFulgid ...So, it doesn't have to be a nicrosil metalmind. Brandon Sanderson No. TheFulgid Okay... But it could be? Brandon Sanderson Yes. That is theoretically possible. Oathbringer release party (Nov. 13, 2017) 1
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