A Star Wars RP - Interest and Ideas

[Channelknight Fadran]

Okay, so...

I blame Ahsoka (the Disney+ show) for just coming out, and subsequently my dive back into Rebels for le reference, but all of a sudden I really need a hyper-fixated Star Wars outlet for some reason, which is why I am here. Specifically I want to look into Jedi stuff (which may mean I'm due for another Andor rewatch, but oh well), but like... I think RPing could be AWESOME for writing the Force and whatnot.

Here's the thing... I'm going to put up a poll for what time period you think would be best for this, but I would like y'all to know that I REALLY want to do this in the super-early stages of the Jedi - like, pre-Republic kinda way-back-when. Now this is really just some Tolkien logic I'm applying to Star Wars of all things (do we need a Middle-Earth RP? NOT NOW, FADRAN), but I like the idea of the ancient Jedi order and ancient Sith acolytes being just absolutely godlike with their Force powers. An argument could be made that tens of thousands of years of the order only ever had the Order learning new techniques and abilities to pass down, but my logic is that the tenets of the Order and the means of connecting to the Force were just way more intuitive back in the Old days.

The Jedi are basically laser-sword-wielding samurai at this point, for goodness' sake. Who could say no to that?

(Fun fact: the Jedi actually started by wielding regular friggin swords made of 'durasteel' before they invented the lightsaber. As awesome as that would be to RP, I think we deserve some actual lightsaber action in here).

ANYWAY. The Jedi Order had lightsabers right around the same time they officially joined the Republic in 25000 BBY, but the Jedi Temple on Coruscant wasn't built until about 5000 BBY. I'd prefer we do the RP sometime between those two events, but either during the Great Schism or the Great Hyperspace War would probably work best. An argument could also be made for the Mandalorian Wars, the "Great War," the First Jedi Purge, the...

...y'know? Imma just bullet out the timeline. You guys deserve better than to sit through the 5K ping on Wookiepedia.

• 36,450ish BBY - The ultimate origin of all Force traditions and whatnot are brought together by the galaxy's best philosophers on Tython. They became known as the Je'daii Order, and the first to distinguish the Light and Dark sides (then known as Ashla and Bogan)
• A little before 25,800 BBY - Apparently it took over ten thousand years for the light and dark side to finally go to war with each other. The Force Wars, they were called, because I guess none of the names had been taken yet. The followers of Bogan were ultimately defeated, and the followers of Ashla formed a new order called the Jedi.
• The Jedi had joined the Republic and developed Lightsabers by around 25,000 BBY, though they still lived on a planet called Ossus. The Jedi Academy was built here, and in it were some badchull forges used to make their durasteel friggin katanas (until, of course, some guy called Tau came outta nowhere and showed them how to make the cooler, lazer-er versions).
• Before 24,500 BBY - Some guy called Arden broke away from the Order and founded his own academy on Lettow. The Legions of Lettow were - surprise surprise - dark side wielders, and by the time 24,500 BBY rolled around, they'd gotten themselves into a nice little war with the Jedi. The Jedi won, of course, in what became known as the Great Schism.
• 11,987 BBY - The Chancellor of the Republic is assassinated, and his successor is batshat insane. Like, genocide kinda insane. The Jedi Order declares independence from the Republic a few years later. Most of the Jedi refused to directly interfere, but a few rogues took the fight right to Space Hitler like absolute chads, which would make for an awesome RP setting (just saiyan)
• 11,100ish BBY - The Caamasi (I didn't mention them, but they're kind of the race who invented the Jedi philosophy in the first place) convince the Order to stop being isolationist losers and to actually help out the galaxy again. The Jedi proceed to beat the absolute ferrick out of Space Hitler's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandson, arrest him for war crimes, then put their own guy in charge.
• 7000 BBY - It's time for another Great Schism! This time it's the second one, which I guess is a little late considering Space Hitler's already four thousand years dead, but oh well. Apparently the not-Sith ("Dark Jedi" - yeah we all know what they mean) had been doing Force Alchemy of all bloody things to make friggin monsters - like RANCOR DRAGONS. The war would come to be known as the Hundred-Year-Darkness, and apparently was the first in which Lightsabers were actually used in hand-to-hand combat? Where was that in the earlier lore?
• 6900 BBY - Anyway, the Jedi win. They banish the remaining not-Siths to exile, who all wind up landing on Korriban of all bloody places, where they proceed to start another Sith Cult posthaste. Some of the Sith tried to enact their revenge, the Jedi saw to it that they didn't get very far, and eventually they all got bored and went home. A few of them even became friends and made their own cult called The Doomed (for some reason). Meanwhile, the other remaining Sith with some decent common sense moved to a planet called Ziost, where they began their Sith Empire.
• 5000 BBY - Apparently it took them almost two thousand years to get here, but the Sith Empire is officially trying to take over the galaxy! Cue the Great Hyperspace War, which the Jedi won because the current Dark Lord of the Sith could only make illusions of extra spaceships to scare them off or something. The Jedi proceeded to sack the Sith Temple, wrecking all their artifacts and destroying their records.
• 4400 BBY - Some Jedi had the bright idea to deny some kid (the protagonist, it would seem) the rank of Knighthood, which made him so mad that he found the Dark Lord of the Sith (the same one as earlier, actually: Naga Sadow), who he trained under before proceeding to Darth-Plagueis-The-Wise-ing (=dead). The protagonist in question proceeded to start an uprising, get his butt kicked, and then...
• 4250 BBY - The Third Great Schism! This one is in response to that last kid's death, which seems a little delayed, but whatever. This one didn't last long, but apparently included a bunch of self-destructing planets, so that's cool.
• 3900s BBY - The Old Sith Wars... and the Great Sith Wars? There's a whole article inside this article about it, so I'll make it brief. Basically there were a bunch of protagonists who turned evil and continuously did evil things (3996), the Mandalorians teamed up with the Sith for awhile (3976 - 3960), the Jedi had a civil war of their own (3959 - 3951), and then the Sith went at it again with the First Jedi Purge (3954 - 3951). Basically it all kinda sucked right around now. Would make for a great RP tho!
• 3681 BBY - Remember the Sith Empire? 'Cause it's Striking Back, baby - and this time it friggin won. They teamed up with the Mandalorians again to take over Coruscant in 3653 and put the Republic in a chokehold for awhile.
• 3642 BBYish - The Jedi recolonized their old home of Tython, falling into a good ol' fashioned Cold War with the Sith-controlled Republic for a while. Eventually they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and went back into all-out war - which they won, but scarred the galaxy with for generations. Would also make a great RP!
• 1010 BBY - There were still some Sith left, and they're back for the New Sith War (as opposed to the Old Sith War, as you might have guessed). The Jedi won this one too, but so many people died, man... like, all of them. And they thought that was the case for the sith but NOPE, because Darth Bane stuck around and started out this whacky new "always two there are" thing.
• 1000 BBYish - It's the Ruusan Reformation, and by golly does the Republic have some rebuilding to do. The Sith are presumed dead (and for awhile they might as well be), so the Jedi completely separate themselves from the military and other material attachments. This is around when they started going ham on the whole Master and Apprentice duo dynamic.
• 53 BBY - It's the   g o l d e n   a g e   of the Jedi, and things are going great! Like, sure, there was this Darth Plagueis guy... but his fate was ultimately quite tragic, so all went well. The Jedi were aware of the Always Two There Are thing now, but figured that this time around had just been a fluke.
• 32 BBY - HAH. it WASN'T. A big red guy killed Qui-Gon Jinn, and Obi-Wan has to Train The Boy.
• 22 BBY - HAH. CONTINUED IRONY. The Boy in question gets his arm lopped off by Darth Tyrannus, and the Clone Wars begin.
• 19 BBY - and GUESS WHAT - Palpatine was the Sith Lord the WHOLE TIME. And he just GOT THE BOY TO KILL ALL THE OTHER BOYS. It's GENIUS!
• 0 BBY - Some upstart blonde kid blows up the Death Star.
• A few years after that - The Sith are finally defeated. For the last time. Ever.
• After that - Noooooooothing happened here.
• Approximately 30 years later - Nothing. At. All.

 

So, uh...

I know earlier I said I wanted to do super-early Jedi Order stuff, but apparently they had to lug massive power packs around for their lightsabers like the Hacksmiths, so that's clearly off the table. We'd have to be doing this during 7000 BBY at the absolute earliest, which is when lightsabers became efficient enough that they could be hooked up to a little mini powerpack, which the Jedi would keep on their belts - kind of like those old props from the OG films.

Anyway, here are the time periods I think would be most viable for our purposes:

• 7000-6900 BBY, during the Hundred-Year Darkness. Because DRAGON RANCORS.
• 3900s BBY, during the Old Sith Wars. Just so much happen during this time period, it would be flippin great.
• 3600s BBY, while the Sith actually control the galaxy for awhile. Having the Jedi Order as a whole being the underdogs for once could be really fun.
• 1010 BBY: it's Sith Extermination Time! Which would probably work mostly probably.

 

Lemme know what y'all think!

Edited August 25, 2023 by Channelknight Fadran

[Aeoryi she/her]

@Frissyn

[Channelknight Fadran]

Who da heck is -

oh hey, I know that guy!

[The Bookwyrm he/him]

...You know, after that whole timeline I think we could come up with our own idea of what happened after the latest defeat of the sith.

Like, just come up with our own "sequel" centuries after the fall of the Empire. Where sith come back in some unique way.

[Channelknight Fadran]

My only problem is with the "rule of two" thing, because I would like to RP a large cast of dark side villains.

Which could work with the Inquisitors and stuff, but I think having some bona fide Sith would be awesome.

[Aeoryi she/her]

Who will be the second sith lol

[Aeternum]

10 hours ago, Aeoliae said:

@Frissyn

Oh hi that's me. Guess I'll join if you're willing to have me here!

I like Bookwyrm's idea, and you could probably just say they decided to change it from two Sith to like A Council Of Many Sith, or something.

[Channelknight Fadran]

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We'll see what happens with the poll for now. I'm def willing to do a fun post-Empire AU tho

 

[Experience he/him]

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I reallyyyyyy want to do this. But I don't think I have the time......

storms...

what do I do....

ig i'll wait to see if this even takes off

 

[Mags she/they]

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I would love to be a part of this if that's alright with you

I know I join A LOT of the rp's around here, I don't mean to be annoying i promise

 

[Scars of Hathsin he/him]

I will join, i really like the idea

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

53 minutes ago, Justice_Magician said:

 

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You think joining RPs is annoying? I'm the one who's constantly starting them!

 

[Aeoryi she/her]

40 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

 

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I keep them alive and breathing

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

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You are, in fact, the latest in the line of "Fadran's RP buddies who are haplessly inducted into keeping the threads alive"

The first was @Condensation

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

Aight imma post all the Lightsaber forms so y'all can start conceptualizing characters. I'll include some notable users, and links to some clips of lightsaber battles demonstrating the forms.

• Form I - Shii-Cho. "Way of the Sarlacc." It's the first form padawans are taught, and it's one that any Jedi can fall back on if all else fails. Notable Users:
  • Pretty much everyone. Just go check out pretty much any lightsaber fight from... well, anywhere.

• Form II - Makashi. "Way of the Ysalamiri." The most duel-centered Lightsaber form. Relies on carefully maneuvering your opponent to checkmate them into a kill. Notable users:
  • Count Dooku - This one's from The Clone Wars, which is great because they didn't have to nerf Dooku for being played by an old guy (all glory to Christopher Lee)

• Form III - Soresu. "Way of the Mynock." The most defensive Lightsaber form, developed as a response to blaster technology. Notable Users:
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi - I picked a fight between him and Greivous because I said so (no, not that fight. Kenobi only had his lightsaber for, like, fifteen seconds in that one!)

• Form IV - Ataru. "Way of the Hawk-Bat." A fast and aggressive form. Great for finishing off single opponents, but less so for battles of attrition. Notable Users:
  • Master Yoda - HREEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHH

• Form V - Shien / Djem So. "The Way of the Krayt Dragon." Just as defensive as Form III, but maintains an offensive rather than waiting for openings to strike. Notable Users:
  • Anakin Skywalker - I wanted some Darth Vader in his prime, so Rebels it is

• Form VI - Niman. "Way of the Rancor." Also known as the Diplomat's Form, using force strikes and careful movement to minimize the amount of energy spent in a battle. Notable Users:
  • Darth Maul - Not the fight from Phantom Menace, actually, because Clone Wars Season 8 is SO GOOD

• Form VII - Juyo/Vappad. "Way of the Vornskr." A form that uses fast and aggressive attacks by submitting the user's will entirely to the Force. It often leads to using a balance of Light and Dark side urges. Notable Users:
  • Mace Windu - You all know this one

• Jar'Kai: Not a traditional form, but acts an umbrella name for dual-wielding lightsabers. Notable Users:
  • Ahsoka Tano - Refer to that one I did between her and Maul

 

Note that few (if any) Lightsaber wielders will ever only just use the one form. Most even create their own sorta sub-forms by combining several into their own personal style, and some have mastered all six (seven's excluded for the most part, because Windu pretty much invented it).

[Aeoryi she/her]

1 hour ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

Aight imma post all the Lightsaber forms so y'all can start conceptualizing characters. I'll include some notable users, and links to some clips of lightsaber battles demonstrating the forms.

• Form I - Shii-Cho. "Way of the Sarlacc." It's the first form padawans are taught, and it's one that any Jedi can fall back on if all else fails. Notable Users:
  • Pretty much everyone. Just go check out pretty much any lightsaber fight from... well, anywhere.

• Form II - Makashi. "Way of the Ysalamiri." The most duel-centered Lightsaber form. Relies on carefully maneuvering your opponent to checkmate them into a kill. Notable users:
  • Count Dooku - This one's from The Clone Wars, which is great because they didn't have to nerf Dooku for being played by an old guy (all glory to Christopher Lee)

• Form III - Soresu. "Way of the Mynock." The most defensive Lightsaber form, developed as a response to blaster technology. Notable Users:
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi - I picked a fight between him and Greivous because I said so (no, not that fight. Kenobi only had his lightsaber for, like, fifteen seconds in that one!)

• Form IV - Ataru. "Way of the Hawk-Bat." A fast and aggressive form. Great for finishing off single opponents, but less so for battles of attrition. Notable Users:
  • Master Yoda - HREEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHH

• Form V - Shien / Djem So. "The Way of the Krayt Dragon." Just as defensive as Form III, but maintains an offensive rather than waiting for openings to strike. Notable Users:
  • Anakin Skywalker - I wanted some Darth Vader in his prime, so Rebels it is

• Form VI - Niman. "Way of the Rancor." Also known as the Diplomat's Form, using force strikes and careful movement to minimize the amount of energy spent in a battle. Notable Users:
  • Darth Maul - Not the fight from Phantom Menace, actually, because Clone Wars Season 8 is SO GOOD

• Form VII - Juyo/Vappad. "Way of the Vornskr." A form that uses fast and aggressive attacks by submitting the user's will entirely to the Force. It often leads to using a balance of Light and Dark side urges. Notable Users:
  • Mace Windu - You all know this one

• Jar'Kai: Not a traditional form, but acts an umbrella name for dual-wielding lightsabers. Notable Users:
  • Ahsoka Tano - Refer to that one I did between her and Maul

 

Note that few (if any) Lightsaber wielders will ever only just use the one form. Most even create their own sorta sub-forms by combining several into their own personal style, and some have mastered all six (seven's excluded for the most part, because Windu pretty much invented it).

... Why do we need to know this?

[Channelknight Fadran]

immersion!

[Aeoryi she/her]

Respond to untitled rp, you said for me to summon you

 

Can I make mace windu?

[Channelknight Fadran]

no

[Channelknight Fadran]

 

Drawing of a jedi, +playing around with various filters

[Channelknight Fadran]

I'm triple-posting now but it's my own bloody thread so WHO CARES

The poll has stagnated so imma summon the folks who showed interest:

@Experience @ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ @Ravenclawjedi42 @Thaidakar the Ghostblood @Justice_Magician @Cinnamon @Aeoliae @Scars of Hathsin

 

So there was a majority for the Galactic Cold War, but enough people liked the idea of doing the Clone Wars too that I'm going to put up a second poll. I'll have you know that I'd very much prefer to do not the Clone Wars for this, as much as I love the show, but if there's an obvious majority for it then I'll concede.

If it's tied-ish again I will be a sore loser and pick the Galactic Cold War

 

Also I missed with more hue sliders and got this:

Edited August 25, 2023 by Channelknight Fadran

[Experience he/him]

Also @Frustration

[Mags she/they]

13 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

You think joining RPs is annoying? I'm the one who's constantly starting them!

 

12 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

You are, in fact, the latest in the line of "Fadran's RP buddies who are haplessly inducted into keeping the threads alive"

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whooo thats a relief, good to see it was just the old social anxiety acting up again

anyway now I have an excuse to use all of the knowledge I internalized in my middle school hyper fixation

I'll have a character idea already, so I'll post it when we get the time period figured out

 

[dannnex male]

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this feels…..really really really hard to RP

like the amount of prerequisite knowledge to make it accurate is enormous

and all the big story beats are like…thousands and thousands of years apart.

i think you’d have to be willing to sacrifice a crap ton of accuracy for the sake of of making it more available to newbs.

like treat it like a fan fic. choose a rough era to start in, and then just forget everything else.

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

3 hours ago, dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex said:

i think you’d have to be willing to sacrifice a crap ton of accuracy for the sake of of making it more available to newbs.

like treat it like a fan fic. choose a rough era to start in, and then just forget everything else.

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oh, certainly. I'm just trying to choose an overall "era" for us to make our lil' story out of.