theSurgeOfPhysics Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 When Dalinar speaks to Kaladin as Tien, right before the 4th Ideal, it reminded me of his “I am Unity” scene in OB. His message to Kaladin is being there in the moment for others, not just thinking about the end goal. It’s a reiteration of the First Ideal, journey before destination. Dalinar likes to focus on that one, similar to OB, where he says it can’t be a journey if it doesn’t have a beginning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 I don't think Dalinar spoke to Kaladin as Tien - he forged a connection between Kaladin and a "memory" of Tien, creating a vision for him. Not spoke to him as a Tien. It is unclear if this is actually Tien's soul, or if it is simply a memory of him. It wasn't Dalinar that create these words. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSurgeOfPhysics Posted February 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 17 hours ago, alder24 said: I don't think Dalinar spoke to Kaladin as Tien - he forged a connection between Kaladin and a "memory" of Tien, creating a vision for him. Not spoke to him as a Tien. Quote Say them, Tien whispered. … Say it, lad! Do it! RoW, Ch. 108 Dalinar is the only character to call Kaladin “lad”, so it was likely a bit of both: a Tien memory and Dalinar intervening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, theSurgeOfPhysics said: Dalinar is the only character to call Kaladin “lad”, so it was likely a bit of both: a Tien memory and Dalinar intervening. Teft calls him Lad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sibling she/her Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 2:28 AM, Frustration said: Teft calls him Lad. Yes I think that was Teft speaking, not Dalinar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letryx13 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 I've listened to that chapter several times from the audio book, and it's definitely Teft's voice calling him "lad". I'm confident that Dalinar did for Kaladin something very similar to what happened with Dalinar and Nohadon in Oathbringer. A connection to the spiritual realm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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