Frustration Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 So we know that if you alloy Lerasium with steel you gain the ability to burn steel. We also know that if you are a compounder your steelminds can be burned like regular steel, but giving you speed rather than the ability to push on metals. So, the question is what happens when you alloy Lerasium with a steelmind? I see three possibilities, the boring one would be that the Lerasium doesn't care and you just become a coinshot. The more interesting ones are either: you gain the ability to burn any steelmind, or even more excitingly you could potentially burn any piece of steel and it would give you speed rather than the ability to push on metals. 3
TheSurvivorofDeath Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 I think it's more likely that, rather than causing any piece of steel to grant speed instead of steel Allomancy, it may make you a steel ferring. I think causing the investiture to come through as a Feruchemical charge in any metal wouldn’t work because Feruchemy is of both preservation and ruin, and lerasium just manipulates connection to preservation.
alder24 Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 I think it might be possible. That metal has a connection to Feruchemy, so alloying it with Lerasium might attach that connection to you. I like this idea. And WoBs confirmed god metals can make you a feruchemist. But if that's the case, who was the first feruchemist and how did he get Feruchemy? He couldn't do it the way you propose. Some WoBs: Spoiler Yoitsthew Would a Lerasium/Atium alloy create a Feruchemist, rather than an atium misting?? What with the way that it’s an alloy of god metals, and the way that lerasium can be used to acquire other magics? As far as I know there is no lerasium left currently, so this one is also just for my curiosity!! Brandon Sanderson You can use the god metals from Scadrial to make a Feruchemist, but I have to RAFO the actual means. General Reddit 2020 (Sept. 30, 2020) Questioner How is a new Feruchemist made? Brandon Sanderson What do you mean? Questioner Well you can make a new Mistborn by lerasium-- Brandon Sanderson Oh, okay. Other than through birth? That’s a RAFO, good question though. Right now, as far as anyone knows, it’s by birth only. But-- Well we’ll leave it there. You know that the extra Preservation instead of Ruin had some effects on people on Scadrial. Calamity Seattle signing (Feb. 17, 2016) 6 hours ago, TheSurvivorofDeath said: lerasium just manipulates connection to preservation. Not only just to Preservation, it manipulates connection and can grant another invested art: Spoiler PallonianFire You said that it's theoretically possible that Hoid could have alloyed the lerasium bead with another god metal to acquire another magic. Has he done so? Brandon Sanderson He has not. Because there are certain things that were preventing that from working. Skyward Denver signing (Nov. 15, 2018) Stormlightning If Hoid was to get his hands on "bavadinium," could he alloy it with lerasium and get Sand Mastery? Brandon Sanderson This is theoretically possible. FanX 2018 (Sept. 6, 2018)
Mistchemist16 Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) I think Ferring probably makes the most sense. From what we can glean of lerasium, its main effect is altering the spirit web and Mistborn is simply the default setting. Hence this WoB about getting sand mastery Stormlightning If Hoid was to get his hands on "bavadinium," could he alloy it with lerasium and get Sand Mastery? Brandon Sanderson This is theoretically possible. FanX 2018 (Sept. 6, 2018) We also know that if you take a metalminds made from pure metal and alloy it, the Investiture doesn’t go away: it just can’t be accessed normally Rogaen What would happen if a Feruchemist fills, for example, a tin metalmind then mixes it to make a pewter metalmind? Does the stored attribute change? Is the Investiture gone when you melt the metal? What if he just makes it into a tin metalmind again? Brandon Sanderson If you make it impure, you'll keep the investiture, but won't be able to get it out. If you make it back into the same thing, you'll be fine, and can access it normally. If you try to fill it, after changing the composition to make another viable metal, it will act a little like a computer hard drive with corrupted sectors. Some of it will work for the new investiture, but you won't be able to fill it nearly as full. (Depending on how full it was before you melted down.) This holds for basic uses of the metallurgic arts. Once you start playing with some of the more advanced parts of the magic, you can achieve different results, which are currently RAFO. General Reddit 2016 (Nov. 11, 2016) For what it’s worth, I also sincerely hope that lerasium alloyed metalminds make getting a as opposed to adding atium to a lerasium-normal metal alloy. I really like the idea that every one of the regular 16 Allomantic metals can act with a God Metal, but only once. Making three or four layer combinations like the lerasium-atium-steel idea just makes me mad and is a waste of the alloying metalminds concept in lerasium It’s also fun for every Misting to have 15 other rarer metals they can burn to do more stuff (not counting lerasium cause everyone can do that) Edited January 22, 2023 by Mistchemist16
IlstrawberrySeed Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I sincerly doubt that any of your 3 theories are correct. We know that the Mistborning is a side effect, and I would hazard that the misting is also a side effect. If it does grant fuerochemical abilities, I would assume it to be a side effect. However, I find it more likely that it will have a unique effect with none of the original's side effects. Or even, It might not work, since the alloyed power is unaccessable, and you would need to fill the Lerasium alloy directly, which would have regular (or enhanced) compounding capabilities.
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