bmcclure7 Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, lacrossedeamon said: She is but I meant before she was Unmade. She seems not solid enough. I mean Aethers are physical beings right? The unmade behave much more like cognitive creatures. And not a crystal in sight. I mean it's possible, but convergent magic systems seem for more likely, we have already seen this with light weaving. Besides the aethers of night dying would change things for AoN. Edited December 10, 2022 by bmcclure7
lacrossedeamon Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 12 hours ago, bmcclure7 said: She seems not solid enough. I mean Aethers are physical beings right? The unmade behave much more like cognitive creatures. And not a crystal in sight. I mean it's possible, but convergent magic systems seem for more likely, we have already seen this with light weaving. Besides the aethers of night dying would change things for AoN. I don't think the Aether itself was unmade just one of it's aetherbound. Shallan even implies that it had been human once. And plenty of cognitive shadows start off physical. Also since its power deal with Living Night/Midnight Essence there wouldn't be any crystals; this wouldn't be Roseite. 1
bmcclure7 Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, lacrossedeamon said: I don't think the Aether itself was unmade just one of it's aetherbound. Shallan even implies that it had been human once. And plenty of cognitive shadows start off physical. Also since its power deal with Living Night/Midnight Essence there wouldn't be any crystals; this wouldn't be Roseite. This is possible. I have long suspected that the inteligent void spren were once human. Its possible that the same could be said for some of the unmade. Art all Aethers crystals that bonded to human bodies? Isn't that why twin souls has a crystal spot on his wrist? I that all aethers bound had that? Edited December 11, 2022 by bmcclure7 1
lacrossedeamon Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said: Art all Aethers crystals that bonded to human bodies? Isn't that why twin souls has a crystal spot on his wrist? I that all aethers bound had that? SP1 it seems to be spores and I think in TLM they only refer to it as a "bud" or "seed" but I don't think those are the Aethers themselves just how they connect to their bonded. And different Aethers might use a different "seed".
bmcclure7 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 21 hours ago, lacrossedeamon said: SP1 it seems to be spores and I think in TLM they only refer to it as a "bud" or "seed" but I don't think those are the Aethers themselves just how they connect to their bonded. And different Aethers might use a different "seed". Don't suppose you know what form the Aether seed took in AoN?
lacrossedeamon Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, bmcclure7 said: Don't suppose you know what form the Aether seed took in AoN? I found a copy of the trunked novel but haven't got around to reading it. I'll update you if anything specific stands out. 1
Zapata Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 11 hours ago, bmcclure7 said: Don't suppose you know what form the Aether seed took in AoN? AoN spoilers (obviously) Spoiler Amberite (now roseite) was a crystal embedded in the Aetherbound's palm, Verdant was a vine that wound its way around the Aetherbound, Bestarin looked like nothing on its own but allowed its Aetherbound to graft animal parts onto their body (so most Aetherbound had some animal body parts), Ferrous made its Aetherbound pale and firm-looking (and some obviously were Corpates), and Night and Illuminous had no discernable appearance unless the Aetherbound had a second Aether (for example Night makes Amberite look darker). At least in the original draft, most Aethers were not crystals. I think the real question is if an Aetherbound would keep their bond and powers through becoming a Cognitive Shadow and becoming corrupted by Odium, which of course we do not have precedent for yet. 2
lacrossedeamon Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 In the most recent Intentionally Blank Sanderson mentions Midnight Essence when talking about stuff pulled from AoN.
Zapata Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 9:13 PM, lacrossedeamon said: In the most recent Intentionally Blank Sanderson mentions Midnight Essence when talking about stuff pulled from AoN. we knew for a while that Midnight Essence and Re-Shephir are inspired by the way the Night Aether works in Aether of Night, but (SP1) Spoiler there is a Midnight Sea, which means one of the Aether Spore Moons is the (Mid?)Night Aether Moon. So perhaps since the Night Aether is dubiously canon, Midnight Essence is a convergent manifestation of Investiture. Or perhaps it's directly related to the Aether.
+Oltux72 he/him Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 On 11.12.2022 at 5:50 AM, lacrossedeamon said: SP1 it seems to be spores and I think in TLM they only refer to it as a "bud" or "seed" but I don't think those are the Aethers themselves just how they connect to their bonded. And different Aethers might use a different "seed". We may speculate that the aethers have a life cycle from spore to bud to eventually core aether, which makes new spores. The spores do create vines upon contact with water, which could be another aether's equivaent of the crystal buds. On 12.12.2022 at 3:51 AM, bmcclure7 said: Don't suppose you know what form the Aether seed took in AoN? They were propagated by splitting the buds. That, however, need not be the proper method.
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