HOID WANTS INSTANT NOODLES Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 You can just make your enemies dissolve. Couldnt they literaly just vaporize anyone. Also could they turn fused/heralds into stone. If they did would the fused/herald return to braize or stay trapped as stone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offer Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 I think that a soulcaster probably can`t soulcast someone (or something) invested, or at least it will be very hard. It is a very powerfull ability against a regular army but probably can`t be used directly against a magic user. It still will be usefull - we saw Jasnah soulcast the air to oil and set it on fire against fused. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) On 7/2/2022 at 0:36 PM, HOID WANTS INSTANT NOODLES said: You can just make your enemies dissolve. Couldnt they literaly just vaporize anyone. Also could they turn fused/heralds into stone. If they did would the fused/herald return to braize or stay trapped as stone. They would return to Braize. Edited July 17, 2022 by Frustration 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SymphonianBookworm Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 Oh, it’s very OP. Unlimited food? With all that’s happening in the world right now, many places being able to access grain would really change a lot of things, since because of some current events, people’s grain supply has been cut off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rg2045 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 https://wob.coppermind.net/events/31/#e9681 i feel this is relavent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusk'our Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 Yup, Soulcasting is pretty powerful, but at least it isn't as bad as Aon Dor, which is completely and utterly busted if used by a competent person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthexile Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Yes, Soulcasting is ridiculously powerful. It literally transforms problems into solutions. Random rocks into healthy food. Latrine waste into clean air. Corpses into stone. Empty space into useful housing. It replaces entire industries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Ati Enjoyer Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Actually, I was wondering about this a bit ago. Does Jasnah actually have to be touching an object or person to Soulcast it/them? I think that was the case in the last few books, but in that Soulcasting killing scene in TWoK, I think she Soulcast one of the men as he was running away. Am I remembering wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, stormblessed1616 said: Actually, I was wondering about this a bit ago. Does Jasnah actually have to be touching an object or person to Soulcast it/them? I think that was the case in the last few books, but in that Soulcasting killing scene in TWoK, I think she Soulcast one of the men as he was running away. Am I remembering wrong? No, you're right. Touch is not required. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Ati Enjoyer Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Frustration said: No, you're right. Touch is not required. Well then, this is absolutely true. Soulcasting is super OP, which is why it would be GREAT if we could get a little more information. (sorry if that was too salty but I seriously need more information) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rg2045 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, stormblessed1616 said: Well then, this is absolutely true. Soulcasting is super OP, which is why it would be GREAT if we could get a little more information. (sorry if that was too salty but I seriously need more information) WoK I think the lesson talks about jasnah soul casting a person from a distance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Soulcasting is crazy powerful, certainly, but it's not the only Surge that is. Look at what Bondsmiths can do... Due to Soulcaster fabrials, Soulcasting is well-understood in a way that other Surges aren't. I imagine other Surges have potential crazy applications when fully understood (Hoid talks to Jasnah about blowing up whole armies in ROW: Division?) Progression can literally bring back the dead (recently dead only, sure, but still...) Surgebinding as a magic system was specifically limited by Honor because it was so potentially powerful. That means something. --- As for the logistics implications of Soulcasters: Yeah its pretty crazy. But that's the only way Alethkar can maintain such huge armies in terrain as barren as the Shattered Plains. I bet thats a big part of how they survived the Desolations too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusk'our Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/3/2022 at 10:42 PM, Rg2045 said: WoK I think the lesson talks about jasnah soul casting a person from a distance yes, she does this in "the lesson" she teaches Shallan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letryx13 Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 6:08 PM, cometaryorbit said: Soulcasting is crazy powerful, certainly, but it's not the only Surge that is. Look at what Bondsmiths can do... Due to Soulcaster fabrials, Soulcasting is well-understood in a way that other Surges aren't. I imagine other Surges have potential crazy applications when fully understood (Hoid talks to Jasnah about blowing up whole armies in ROW: Division?) Progression can literally bring back the dead (recently dead only, sure, but still...) Surgebinding as a magic system was specifically limited by Honor because it was so potentially powerful. That means something. --- As for the logistics implications of Soulcasters: Yeah its pretty crazy. But that's the only way Alethkar can maintain such huge armies in terrain as barren as the Shattered Plains. I bet thats a big part of how they survived the Desolations too. Surgebinding is crazy powerful, Odium even mentions to Dalinar how powerful he knows it is. Although I think that's more support about the nuclear capabilities of surgebinding. BondSmiths seem like the exception. Since they are bonded to much greater spren, it makes sense that they'd have much greater powers, so I think that might work differently. And Division ties to the nuclear power idea too, I think. But it feels like they'd need a BondSmith's help to decimate entire armies. Soulcasting just seems so over powered because it can be used to meet most basic needs; food, shelter, waste removal, etc. And also because while there are ways to resist it, there's not much of a way to stop it. That we know of, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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