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If you gave a single Aviar all the powers normally available in Patji's system via Hemalurgy, turning them into something of a parrot Inquisitor, and then Bonded it, would you be able to become a Mistborn version of Patji's magic system?

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41 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

If you gave a single Aviar all the powers normally available in Patji's system via Hemalurgy, turning them into something of a parrot Inquisitor, and then Bonded it, would you be able to become a Mistborn version of Patji's magic system?

This one is very interesting; A few things to consider; The bind points in an Aviar are different than in man so it might not be possible to make a Hemalurgically altered Aviar that is still in form an Aviar. That many spikes in such a small creature would likely cause significant changes to the body. In addition "bonding" the Aviar isn't the same as bonding say a Spren, Seon, Etc. While you could surely give an Aviar additional abilities via Hemalurgy, I suspect that making an 'Inquis-iar' would be technically be possible, but it would very difficult in a practical sense.

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4 hours ago, The Sovereign said:

This one is very interesting; A few things to consider; The bind points in an Aviar are different than in man so it might not be possible to make a Hemalurgically altered Aviar that is still in form an Aviar. That many spikes in such a small creature would likely cause significant changes to the body.

That would be problematic, I suppose. You could make the spikes smaller for Aviar bodies, but you might not be able to hold as much of an Invested charge, and if the spikes were ever removed they would leak faster. It does make me wonder though, how small can you make a Hemalurgic spike but still make it functional? Might have to do a post about that at some point.

4 hours ago, The Sovereign said:

While you could surely give an Aviar additional abilities via Hemalurgy, I suspect that making an 'Inquis-iar' would be technically be possible, but it would very difficult in a practical sense.

I love that term, and shall now use it whenever I speak of a Hemalurgically enhanced Aviar :) 

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58 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

It does make me wonder though, how small can you make a Hemalurgic spike but still make it functional?

Well, Vin's spike was the post of her earring. . .

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17 hours ago, Treamayne said:

Well, Vin's spike was the post of her earring. . .

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Then I suppose you could make functional spikes to be very small. An inch or less maybe?

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On 6/25/2022 at 1:19 PM, Trusk'our said:

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Then I suppose you could make functional spikes to be very small. An inch or less maybe?

far less than that.

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23 hours ago, Frustration said:

far less than that.

Yup, confirmed to be workable as small as Dental Fillings, but since the amount of actual investiture in Hemalurgy is relatively small. It could probably be as tiny as the literal depth of the skin-to-blood, or its possible that it would work as tiny as you could make it and still interact enough to be cognizant of the actual Insertion like tiny surgical needle size or less under a microscope. 

Blood contact isnt apparently required to receive a spike but might be required for the initial Charge, but even then the minimum practical length might have a lot of circumstantial/mechanical factors.  

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On 6/24/2022 at 2:50 PM, Trusk'our said:

If you gave a single Aviar all the powers normally available in Patji's system via Hemalurgy, turning them into something of a parrot Inquisitor, and then Bonded it, would you be able to become a Mistborn version of Patji's magic system?

To clarify the question for anyone from Roshar- “turning them into something of a chicken inquisitor”

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On 7/9/2022 at 7:47 PM, CognitiveShadow said:

To clarify the question for anyone from Rodger- “turning them into something of a chicken inquisitor”

A "chickis-iar", if you're on Roshar then?

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