aneonfoxtribute Posted October 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 I've started Fires of Heaven, probably just gonna read the prologue today. Gonna spoiler mark my comment for the sake of Eluvianni, in case he hasn't read beyond Shadow Rising yet. Spoiler Gotta love that Elaida hypocrisy. Talking about how people aren't consulting her and "usurping her authority" and calling it a slight despite the fact that she rose to Amyrlin without a fair meeting about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 The Forsaken's interactions with each other are very interesting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, aneonfoxtribute said: I've started Fires of Heaven, probably just gonna read the prologue today. Gonna spoiler mark my comment for the sake of Eluvianni, in case he hasn't read beyond Shadow Rising yet. Hide contents Gotta love that Elaida hypocrisy. Talking about how people aren't consulting her and "usurping her authority" and calling it a slight despite the fact that she rose to Amyrlin without a fair meeting about it. she is the worst. 4 minutes ago, aneonfoxtribute said: The Forsaken's interactions with each other are very interesting yea, their meetings with each other are always interesting. I'm not sure how much of this you've gotten yet, but i really like how much Jordan humanizes the forsaken. I think it makes them into more interesting villains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 I don't really see that in the Forsaken yet. That will likely change but at the moment, they seem like the least human villains other than Padan Fain (and probably the Dark One himself, but we haven't seen him). The other villains or groups are all doing what they think is right so far. Elaida did what she thought was right, she doesn't like that Siuan was letting Rand run free. The Whitecloaks are doing what they thing right, they are dedicated to the Light and, as delusional, wrong, and trigger happy as they are, they still think they're serving the light and doing good for the world by ridding it of Darkfriends. Bernhard specifically thinks he genuinely will avenge his father by killing Perrin, because he really doesn't know the situation any better. The Seanchan, loath as I am to admit it, think they're right, they were raised to believe that channelers should be leashed and they were raised to believe that their blood is the true blood. The Forsaken so far don't really have any principles, unity, or motivation other than power. This is realistic and human in its own right, mind (thats why Fain is less human than them to me, he's just insane and corrupted by a crazy ghost dude), but I think its the least human of the lot. Religious zealots persecuting people because they think it right and people acting according to their cultural traditions seem more human to me than people chasing power and backstabbing their supposed allies for more power. But these are just my impressions right now. The Whitecloaks and Seanchan will probably remain faceless groups with only a handful of individual characters, while the Forsaken who DON'T die immediately will likely have far more fleshed out motivations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 yea, Early on they mostly are just monsters, but more and more you'll get bits and pieces of what is going on with them Spoiler especially now, given Rand's new tutor as of the end of The Shadow Rising 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 I don't anticipate reading a whole lot for a while. What with Cold Steel 4 coming out next week, Dawnshard presumably coming next week, and Rhythm of War coming next month, I'm unsure how much I'll be able to read. I might still try for a chapter a day starting tomorrow but it will likely be a lot less of a daily thing with all these new releases coming so soon after one another. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Reading chapter 1. What happened to Gareth, I wonder. He seems to have been completely dismissed from duty. I wonder how that came about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Well if it wasn't already obvious that Gaebril was a Forsaken, it definitely is now. He straight up has Morgase under mind control 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, aneonfoxtribute said: Reading chapter 1. What happened to Gareth, I wonder. He seems to have been completely dismissed from duty. I wonder how that came about. 1 hour ago, aneonfoxtribute said: Well if it wasn't already obvious that Gaebril was a Forsaken, it definitely is now. He straight up has Morgase under mind control theres your answer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yeah, I figured that Gaebril was a Forsaken from the first time he was on screen, but I didn't think about her being under mind control at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, aneonfoxtribute said: Yeah, I figured that Gaebril was a Forsaken from the first time he was on screen, but I didn't think about her being under mind control at all basically from Mat's chapters in book 3 when he is in Caemlyn, right? Yea, its a lot less obvious then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yeah. Honestly, though, I was suspicious of him when they said "Morgase has a new lover", because I think that was soon after learning that one of the Forsaken was in a position of power in.... I want to say Illian? I don't remember where specifically, but I remember learning about Gaebril not long after that and it was very clear to me that he is also probably a Forsaken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 hours ago, aneonfoxtribute said: Yeah. Honestly, though, I was suspicious of him when they said "Morgase has a new lover", because I think that was soon after learning that one of the Forsaken was in a position of power in.... I want to say Illian? I don't remember where specifically, but I remember learning about Gaebril not long after that and it was very clear to me that he is also probably a Forsaken. probably Sammael in Illian. Perrin and Moiraine are there and flee in the middle of the night to avoid staying there after maybe attracting his notice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 So needless to say I didn't do a ton of reading. As in I didn't read basically anything. And now I'm just gonna be full on on hold until at the very least after Rhythm of War. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 I am very much in the mood to read right now so I am going to! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 Asmodean says that "Rahvin has a queen for one of his pets". So Gaebril is Rahvin then most likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Aviendha lied twice. Probably about hating Rand. Tsundere's, man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Oh my god Balefire is so cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Oh interesting. Moiraine saw all of her potential futures when she went to Rhuidean. I wonder if that means that the three different rings DO do something different, with the one Moiraine went through showing the future and the one Rand went through showing memories of ancestors, or if men and women see different things stepping through them. If the former is true, I wonder what the third ring shows? I would think the present, since one shows the past and one the future, but that would seem odd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, aneonfoxtribute said: Oh interesting. Moiraine saw all of her potential futures when she went to Rhuidean. I wonder if that means that the three different rings DO do something different, with the one Moiraine went through showing the future and the one Rand went through showing memories of ancestors, or if men and women see different things stepping through them. If the former is true, I wonder what the third ring shows? I would think the present, since one shows the past and one the future, but that would seem odd. Rand didn't go through the rings. he saw them but they weren't what he was there for. the Ter'angreal he walked through is described as "a small forest of tall glass columns" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Oh I assumed he did. I didn't remember that he saw them (gee wonder why), so I just assumed he walked through them and I didn't remember. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 On Chapter 13, and oh my god Nynaeve. Why the hell do you make yourself so unlikable for zero reason. Elayne is literally blameless to you being forced to pretend to be a servant, and yet you still give her crap because of it. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, aneonfoxtribute said: On Chapter 13, and oh my god Nynaeve. Why the hell do you make yourself so unlikable for zero reason. Elayne is literally blameless to you being forced to pretend to be a servant, and yet you still give her crap because of it. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yea the Nynaeve/Elayne dynamic is....very frustrating 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 "She loathed all wilders. Dreaming of being Black Ajah, she herself had begun learning to channel a full year before going to the Tower, but she was in no way a wilder." LMFAO you tell yourself that Liandrin, you crazy psycho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Taringail DAMODRED?! Morgase was married to a relative of Moiraine?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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