Neon Reads The Wheel of Time

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3 hours ago, Briar King said:

I ll have to try and remember that when once I get there but she is very forceful in 11 for the short time she has the 3 collared in her trailer.

Oh no I'm not saying she isn't forceful. But Tuon isn't sadistic about it, she sees what she sees as three uncollared dogs barking at her and she does what she believes is natural, because it's something to be done. 

 

1 hour ago, Dunkum said:

it makes sense, though i'd have to reread a fair bit to see if I agree. part of the problem is that we do tend to get a very limited amount of Seanchan perspectives, so its harder to gauge how consistently they are written.

Yeah like I said, it could just be that we have a grand total of eight living Seanchan characters that we know and Brandon only uses two of them (we see Karede on Memory of Light but he doesn't do anything, he barely even uses Selucia). So it's hard to tell how much of the sadism is just people who are like Renna, and how much of it is Brandon writing the Seanchan differently, because all of the Seanchan we see at the raid are no-names who all die immediately.

(Oh also its kinda funny how Egwene frees a bunch of damane and then they don't elaborate what happens to them, either in the rest of the battle or the rest of the story, they just vanish)

Edited December 15, 2023 by aneonfoxtribute

[Briar King]

Weird timing that I was just talking about more books yet this news I heard moments ago isn’t about more books but about more WoP.. Amazon is doing an animated White Tower movie and live action 3 Age of Legend films. 

They are totally going to milk this franchise and do more books though I can almost guarantee so you may not be done after all.

[Briar King]

Ha I had forgotten this. Mishima is wanting to face Trollocs in 11, in 12 he gets his wish.

Im gonna have to look up what parts RJ has sprinkled in these 3. Only one I remember for sure is last few pages the series.

Edited December 24, 2023 by Briar King

[Briar King]

That info is pretty difficult to find and not at all clear other than I know for sure he wrote the ending sequence of AMOL. Many are saying he wrote the majority of 12&13’s prologue which makes me feel kinda giddy about Mishima’s bravado and his granted wish of 12. BS says in book that RJ did have written chapters. Rust he did a good job of writing in a different style to match RJ.

Hell I’m already like 80+ pgs into 12…I’ve not had that much speedy progress on this rereread since bk 3 in late 2021..

 

ed hmm some say he wrote the majority of the final battle. I’m not so sure about that part, others say it was heavily outlined for BS to fill in which I think is probably the way. I heard that he only wrote about 50K words which seems to line up if the prologues of 12-13 and the ending segment of 14.

Edited December 25, 2023 by Briar King

[aneonfoxtribute]

I was thinking about this a bit the other day, Tuon's introduction is so fascinating. It portrays her as simultaneously a monster and as a surprisingly good person (or at least as good as you can be for someone who upholds slavery wholeheartedly). Like, she's introduced as A. the person who broke Sheraine Caminelle, and B. someone who had a damane beat just because she didn't like the prophecy she gave, both of which are obviously very bad things for a person to do. And then I started thinking about it, and realized that compared to a lot of Seanchan, she is actually framed in a surprisingly good light given that THAT is how we are introduced to her (don't get me wrong though, her introduction scene is very hard to read still). For instance, the reason Tuon decides to veil herself and strip herself of her status as the heir to the throne. She does so out of shame. Shame for ordering the damane punished for such a trivial reason. I guarantee you that Tuon is the only slave owner, fictional or otherwise, who has punished herself because she felt ashamed of punishing a slave for an unjust reason. To a lesser extent, the fact that Sheraine was literally dying and was holding out for as long as she was until Tuon came indicates that Tuon did something differently to her compared to other sul'dam. Which could be a lot of things, it could be worse than what other sul'dam do, it's hard to really say but I was just thinking about what she could have done differently. It would be (intellectually, if nothing else) interesting to see how that happened. Sheraine also seems a lot more fervant towards Tuon compared to others (though it's hard to tell if that's her specifically or if most damane are that fervent towards her, since we really do not see very many damane and the ones we do see aren't exactly thinking about Tuon)