synobal Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 So given the end of Words of radiance can we safely conclude that Dalinar has found the most important words a man can say? or would it be to early to consider that plot resolved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velnica Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Judging by the plural "Words", I think he's got a way to go yet. His posse of Radiants are also still green so I think they all have to level up first before that one is fulfilled. He has at least started the process though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-42 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I figured the "most important words a man can say" were just Knight Radiant oaths in general. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I figured the "most important words a man can say" were just Knight Radiant oaths in general. This sounds reasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust and Ruin Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I figured the "most important words a man can say" were just Knight Radiant oaths in general. It also adds to the idea that Dalinar wasn't meant to lead the Radiants, just gather them/ find them. By finding more people who knew the words/ideals, he would be finding and gathering more Radiants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilt Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I thought the most important words where the oaths as well On the topic of dalinar.. what do you think a bondsmith actually is?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I thought the most important words where the oaths as well   On the topic of dalinar.. what do you think a bondsmith actually is?. Bondsmith:Herald: Ishar Surges: Tension/Adhesion Known History: In the time before the Recreance the order was very small and likely the smallest with only 3 members. Ideals: 1.Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination 2.I will unite instead of divide 3.I will bring men together Edited March 12, 2014 by WEZ313 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilt Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Bondsmith: Herald: Ishar Surges: Tension/Adhesion Known History: In the time before the Recreance the order was very small and likely the smallest with only 3 members. Ideals: 1.Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination 2.I will unite instead of divide 3.I will bring men together Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraefzke Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ideals: 1.Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination 2.I will unite instead of divide 3.I will bring men together It more felt (to me) like number 3 is part or further explaination of number 2, so that 2 and 3 would be one ideal in total. But it's entirely possible that they are seperate. Do we have any confirmation for either interpretation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksiel Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Or perhaps the Stormfather only accepted one of those sentences and we don't know which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Fiend Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 "Fortunately," Dalinar said, "I know the second oath I am to make. I don't need to be told it. I will unite instead of divide, Stormfather. I will bring men together. - Words of Radiance, Chapter 89, pg 1072 Hardcover Emphasis mine. So it looks like Dalinar has only spoken the Second Oath so far. But I believe the most important words were just the Oaths in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't know. I can't help but still think that the "most important words" go beyond the usual Oaths. There was too much emphasis put on that. Then again, I wouldn't know which words could be even more important than the Oaths in general. Maybe some sort of final Oath? The Heralds' Oath or something like that? Still, just a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksiel Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The word that bond Odium to the rules mentioned by Tanavast? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The word that bond Odium to the rules mentioned by Tanavast? Just a thought. Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 281018368 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 520558896 bytes) in Unknown on line 0 Gavilar tried to summon a desolation. Not sure he was aware of Odium, or he might have made a less "terribly sociopathically eviler than Sadeas as he would be in Game of Thrones" decision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) So I've totally lost track of all the secret societies, but the most important words a man can say (which Ive always thought were the Ideals) only fits if Gavilar wanted the Knights Radiant back. But was he with a group that wanted them, or wanted them gone? Edit: I also sort of feel that, as Gavilar's last words, the resolution to them will be made fairly obvious as a resolution. But Dalinar wasn't thinking of Gavilar when he climbed to the roof and yelled at the Stormfather so...maybe not? Edited March 12, 2014 by Delightful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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