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Knowing the rhythms is just an affect of being bonded to a Singer. Also, she more pulses the Rhythms rather than hums them. Timbre was originally supposed to be Eshonai's but since she's dead, Timbre fled to Venli. Not a perfect match, but better than being mindless or corrupted. Also, Brandon's said that Venli and Eshonai would be the same Order. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/175-oathbringer-houston-signing/#e8413 Timbre can't be a Cryptic, as shawn mentioned, because she doesn't look a thing like a Cryptic.

Pretty sure Venli is a willshaper, and their spren are the Reachers (Ico and his crew).

They're Cognitive Shadows, not the regular spren that are normally referred to as spren. CS maintain their intelligence without any bond. They become the Fused when they take over a Singer body. I'm not sure yet what Ulim is. In WoR, Eshonai says: (Also @Wit Beyond Measure that's where slaveform was canonized )

Nice! I'm trying to do the same thing in my reread, using the epub version that I converted the Word doc to.

She's dead and gone. Brandon is not allowed to bring her back, even if he wanted to

I disagree with both Tien and Helaran being proto-Radiants. Helaran was slightly associated with the Skybreakers but he wasn't even to Squire or trainee status. Tien, there's really no actual evidence for.

I think Eshonai was always slated to die. Brandon's said a lot of times that a flashback character doesn't have to be alive for their book.

Yeah, finish the book.

It's not going to happen

Nope.

Nope.

Well, we have 3 colors in play here. We have "red" we have "ruby" and we have "garnet". I feel like the Rosharans are sensitive enough to gem color, and color in general, to be able to distinguish between the three. Otherwise soulcasting with ruby and garnet would be really iffy. Garnet, on Roshar is a dark red, yes. Red as #FF0000

When Shallan summons him as a Shardblade in the chasms, it glows garnet for a minute. Garnet is the Lightweaver polestone.

Oh.. But I like Nohadon now being the Sibling to be a much more fun theory

I still think it's Yelig-nar. I'm looking for this passage. The only PoV we get from Venli after Dalinar unites the Realms is when she's getting on the ship, and she doesn't mention seeing the black smoke.

That wasn't sarcasm. That was a brilliant idea! I mean, we have no proof, but I can get behind it. Actually, I didn't even realize you were proposing that idea. It came to me when reading your post, but I didn't realize you were actually advocating it.

Gasp. Nohadon is the Sibling.

No, sorry. Brandon does not say it was a biological change. There is no mention of a biological change. The Everstorm changed them, yes. It fixed their Connection and Identity, so that they weren't blocked off from the rest of their minds and Spirits any more. There is not a mention of biological change. The Parshendi gods are the Unmade. The Fused are important, but are more like their KR, rather than their gods. A single Fused trapped in a gemstone isn't particularly important. An Unmade, however, trapped in a gemstone, one such as BAM, would be crucial and crippling. The hint in that scene is that a crucial spren, BAM, is trapped, was ripped away from the ancient Singers, causing them to lose part of their Spiritweb. Additionally, the Fused are not captured in the Parshendi gemhearts. They're inhabiting them, but are not trapped. They could leave any time they want, assuming they have enough Investiture. The Fused leave the body when it dies, they aren't stuck there. So there's no reason to think that the Fused would stay in the gemheart after being ripped out. Thirdly, the Fused have been trapped on Braize since Aharietiem. There's no way Gavilar or Melishi would have been able to capture any. Which reminds me, you still haven't addressed the physiological issues of having a crucial part of your anatomy removed for millennia, then suddenly added back in. A gemheart isn't likely to just be sitting in the chest cavity. It would have things attached to it, and at least some sort of nervous system relationship, they can feel the spren in their gemhearts. Yes, Identity and Connection are Spiritual aspects that can sometimes be stored in a physical vessel. We haven't seen any evidence that they can be stored in gemstones, however. Aluminum and Duralumin (an alloy of Aluminum) both have very special and strange properties in the Cosmere. Also, storing Identity and Connection in a metalmind takes a particular act of will, and reduces your active Identity and Connection. So the gemhearts can't be "storing" their Identity and Connection in the same way a metalmind does. Otherwise, taking the gemheart away would actually *increase* their Idientity and Connection, since they're no longer putting it into their gemheart. ...This is not how evolution works. You could slice an arm off of a every person in a particular family for the next thousand years. Every child would still be born with two arms. You're also now implying that the removal of the gemheart is a physical action that must be taken? But there's no way Melishi went around and manually ripped the gemheart out of every Singer. This is still disregarding the physiological implications of removing a crucial piece of anatomy. Children would be even less likely to survive that.

I think the Heralds' eyes only change when wielding their Honorblades. That's what happens with Szeth, anyway. Syl is blue-white. The Radiants in Dalinar's visions wore Shardplate that glowed with their color, and several of them were Windrunners, so glowed blue. Kaladin's Sylblade glows blue Those are the only instances of non-sapphire blue glowishness that I can find in all 3 books.

It might be from the WoR cover?

Brandon has said that the color red signifies corrupted Investiture. That's why the Fused and possessed Alethi have red eyes, and voidspren glow red. It's why Glys is red. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/173-oathbringer-san-francisco-signing/#e8340 A description of Ym's spren from WoR. So Glys looks mostly like a regular Truthwatcher spren, except red, and its light acts a bit differently (shimmer like the heat of a mirage vs a shimmer of light; dripped light upward toward the ceiling vs light growing upward like small plants). We have seen other Cryptics, both in Shadesmar and in the Physical Realm (Hoid's cryptic in the epilogue). Pattern was in Shadesmar with Shallan, and none of the other spren or Cryptics noticed anything wrong with her or Pattern, nor have they exhibited any redness. Shallan has also already manifested both normal Lightweaver surges: Lightweaving and Soulcasting. Renarin isn't able to Lightweave, but is able to use Progression. Instead of being able to make illusions, he's able to see the future. I'm certain that the "One will certainly be a traitor to the others" is the same "Traitor" mentioned on the back cover. Shallan is certainly not broken by ambition, nor does she seek freedom. The closest match to this description is Venli. In her ambition, she brought back Odium, the Fused, and the Everstorm. Now, she wants to be free of him, regrets her decisions, and has bonded Timbre. She wants the Listeners to be able to make their own choices (freedom). The epigraph in question has no context, so we have no proof that it is related to the Unmade at all. The epigraph on the previous chapter refers to either Renarin or Hoid, the one after talks about the Blackthorn. For whether Shallan herself is corrupted, we don't know what a corrupted person looks like, but presumably, when they use Investiture, it would also be corrupted, i.e. red, which Shallan has not done. The rest, I agree with Varion's post above about why Sja-anat is surprised, etc etc.

But again, Identity is a fundamental Spiritual Cosmere force. So Identity changes and transformations are Spiritual, not Physical. Yes, the parshmen are adapted to having gemhearts and life on Roshar. So having gemhearts is biological. And not having them would have serious physiological issues. Having them suddenly pop back IN would cause even more. Also the point Calderis brought up--why would successive parshmen generations also be born without gemhearts, then? Amputation isn't inherited, so the ones after the first group should have then had gemhearts. (Also not being aggressive. This is just how I debate )

Right but I’ve given a lot of evidence that it was a purely Spiritual problem.

But the things I’ve quoted and explained still show this was a Spiritual thing, not a Physical thing. Also, dullform have spren. I’ll provide the quote when I get home.