Metacognition

When they effect the outcome, they also give themselves away. Anyone messing with a close vote will always be suspect and same for vote changing roles, which is why I always urge vote changing roles to be very careful. The best example of this is Xaneth. He knew he wasn't tying the vote, but no one else did and he's partially dead because of it. Having a close vote isn't a bad thing. Letting them effect the outcome isn't even a bad thing. The bad thing is then not learning from the information they've given you.

Meta dashed out of his shack carrying a sheaf of papers (I'm back, everyone! I wound up with an infected tooth due to my trip and am in great pain, but I'm back!). He ran out into the crowd, hoping to add his superior detective reasoning to the crowd when he found that many people had already made up their minds. He stumbled to a stop and gawked at the crowd. "No," he said. "This isn't how it's supposed to work... You're supposed to deliberate and cast accusations around! You're supposed to make them work for it! You're being drawn into a crowd mentality and allowing it to cloud your judgement and I have proof!" He started handing out sheets to everyone, filled with his sloppy penmanship and stains from various drinks and food: First off, Mabi is likely an innocent (How Meta knew to write this down first will always be a mystery of the ages). First of all, Asp was ardent about killing Mabi within the first few days. Not only spoken to the group, but also within my personal interviews with him. It is doubtful that he would push so hard for one of his own. I have completed my research of the past few days and of the few scraps of evidence I found at each crime scene and have compiled the following suspects. Clan - While his reasoning is sound, he also kept trying to force the vote towards Mabi. Considering what we know of Asp's intentions, this does not bode well for him. Along the same lines, both Clan and Asp decided to use statistics. This in and of itself is not damning, but there is a chance that there was something of a subtle influence within the Spiked to try to use statistics to hide their agenda. Mac - He only voted for Asp after there was a good majority of votes already upon him. Possibly a Spiked hiding within the vote. Not to mention that he was the voice to drive this vote into bandwagon territory. Dane - Hasn't contributed much beyond the RP. His votes have been safe, when and if he votes at all. His lack of anything to go off of might mean he's hiding something. Vizinni - Similar to Dane. Alon - He makes a good case for himself, but could it also be an easy means to hide an ulterior motive? (Note: I'm not trying to downplay the importance of real life, especially a funeral, so he is the least suspicious on my list) "I suggest," Meta stated while handing out his papers. "That we cast the blame far and wide right now and see what sticks. Right now, you're all voting for one person. You're allowing yourselves to be fooled, especially since I already told you that our killers would likely not object to us killing one of our own." I also request an extension. Considering this is becoming common, I suggest that our next GM take this into account when deciding their timeline.

That is a wonderful use for Worldhoppers. It could be a 3rd faction type thing and the GM can reveal that there are Worldhoppers in the game, but not which worlds they are from! As more worlds get used, we'll have more archetype roles to choose from!

Then we'll see when we kill the last of the spiked and the game doesn't end.

Meta sat at a table against the wall of The Lurcher. From here, he could see everyone come and go. He had a mug sitting next to him, but it was basically untouched. He wanted a sober mind for the night. Not only were the Spiked still out there, but they would be looking for revenge. Luckily, I've arranged for some protection tonight, he thought as he noted Gamut in the middle of the room, talking to himself. Amazing how much difference a day can make. We killed the crazy one and now our ex-pirate seems to be going crazy as well! Tonight was a great victory, but an animal is most dangerous when backed against the wall. Meta kept a careful watch, his mind cycling through everything that had happened, looking for clues. As long as they survived the night, perhaps something that happened tonight would lead them to another one of the foul murderers.

You can always start a new thread, like I did last game. I will merge them all together when I'm near a computer. Whatever you think will work best; just giving you the option, if you want to use it.

I know them as well, Bartson. I said as much in my long, drawn out post. Your insistence on this is just making you look suspicious, as if he gave them up here, then even the Spiked would know. Right now, there are two people who know who he scanned. So unless you think both Gamut and I are Spiked, which would be crazy, I don't think you need to worry about it right now. Once we know whether or not Asp was Spiked, then we'll know whether or not to trust his seeking in the first place!

I am very sorry Asp, but the more I look at this, the less likely I think the Spiked would pull a stunt like this just to lynch one person, even if that person is a Seeker. They'd be down to 2-3 players and we'd still be at decent strength. I will say this, if the Spiked are playing me, I will be the first to vote for Gamut's informant. Your murderer will pay for this if you're Good.

That means that the Mistborn would have to come forward AND if there is a Spiked Mistborn, can we really trust their judgement? I'm pretty sure we're going to have to lynch either Asp or Gamut's informant; I just don't have to be happy about it, considering we are likely going to lose our Seeker out of it. I suggest that if we have a Village Mistborn, they take Coinshot tonight and hopefully between them and the coinshot from last night, they'll be able to kill the Spiked if we wind up lynching our village Seeker.

Unfortunately, waiting and lynching someone else isn't likely to help us. If Asp is Spiked, then he's being fed information by a Spiked Seeker. If Gamut's informant is Spiked, then they're likely a Spiked Seeker. Either way, both would be able to give us real results of their seekings. They only way to test them would be on another Spiked and we don't have a target for them in that right. If Asp does turn out to be a villager, the people who don't change their vote for now are shooting up on my suspect list. The Spiked wouldn't want us to turn this bandwagon around. Of course, the reverse also holds true. If he's Spiked, those that jumped off are likely Spiked. So how confident were all of you REALLY in your vote that you caused a bandwagon?

First of all, sorry for the double post, but I wanted to try to catch Peng while he was still on. Also, I miss my computer and all of my notes already! Okay, so this is a crazy situation. I have a few thoughts and a few possible scenarios I'd like to give you guys going forward on this. First of all, there are right now 7 votes for Asp. That shouldn't have happened. You not only bandwagoned, but you made it incredibly easy for the Spiked to hide within the vote! I can almost guarantee you that if Asp is innocent, then there are Spiked hiding in that vote and now you have a lot more people to be suspicious of because everyone piled on. I think it's entirely possible that there is a Spiked Seeker, but I don't think it's Asp. For one, unless Asp is trying to cover for Gamma, he wouldn't effectively tell us that Gamma is a Villager, especially after Gamma was the one to first cast suspicion on him. On that same note, Gamma wouldn't call for the lynch of a fellow Spiked just so he could make it look like Gamma was innocent. Likewise, Gamma's informant isn't likely to throw a fellow Spiked under the bus like that. This is my first clue as to Asp possibly being innocent. Asp also sent his list of seeked people to me and as long as those other people are telling me the truth (without knowing what Asp claimed them to be as well), then his seekings are accurate. To answer your question, Maw: Aspren and I were both added to a PM group. This group was far too large to be comfortable. Asp left this group almost immediately. Now while this is pure speculation on my part, I don't think a Spiked player would leave such a tasty group. Not only would they influence amongst that group, but also they would've gained a lot of information out of staying in it. On the other side of this; we have a mysterious benefactor who told Gamma someone is Spiked and provided Gamma's role as proof. Well, in my opinion, I think there were ample ways for them to figure out Gamma's role, which is the only proof they have provided: - They are a Spiked Seeker and they scanned him. - They are Spiked and Gamma was the one attacked last night. - They are a Spiked Mistborn and scanned Gamma to lie about Asp. - They are Spiked and they were told this information from one of the other Spiked to get Asp lynched but also to protect their Mistborn/Seeker. Those are the ways they could do so and be Spiked obviously. If they are not Spiked: - They are a Village Seeker and scanned both Gamma and Asp That's the only way they could do this if they were good because it would take two scans. Now all that doesn't mean that Asp isn't a Spiked Mistborn. Asp could still be a Spiked Mistborn and there is a Spiked Seeker out there that has told him the results of their scans so that he can pretend to be a Village Seeker to save himself. This too would cover every situation above except for Joe's and my circumstantial information, which we can't and shouldn't use as our only measuring stick. There's also the fact that this would be a pretty bold play by the Spiked just to kill a random villager. They might get us to kill Asp, but then we'd turn on Gamma's informant and they'd be down yet another Spiked (who probably wouldn't even survive the night, if one of those attacks last night was our Coinshot) Either way, there is a good chance that we lose our other Seeker out of this, so if I were you, I'd advance very carefully. We want them to have to fight for this lynch if Asp is innocent and we want to see how they try to deflect the vote if he is not. I don't know if we'll be able to get that now, due to the early bandwagoning, but it's worth a shot. One last thing, I suggest that our village vote changing roles stay out of this one. That way we will know if the Spiked use any vote changing roles and which way they tried to swing it. If they feel the need to use it, then we'll have a fairly good answer as to how they wanted it to go, so we'll know who is Spiked and we'll also have a pretty good idea of who their vote-changing Spiked is.

@Peng: there has been a request for an extension already, but I'm also calling for one. We need more time to sort this out. Also, with a difficult as the site has been the last few days, I'd like you to take that into account when we get out extension. @Joe: Have 5 Meta Points. They don't do much, as they're basically points of points and they tend to break the rules of Physics, so they're difficult to contain, but they are pretty to look at.

I go away and I'm not even one day gone and all this happens! I'm going to try to get on an actual computer here in a bit, but I'd urge people to retract their votes for now. we don't want a bandwagon, as that gives the spiked no reason to speak up. We want the discussion right now, THEN we can pile on the votes! I'll explain more when I get on later.

I'll be the first to admit, we got lucky, but I'll say this, I didn't suspect you just because you were against lynching someone (and this goes for anyone I've suspected for trying to stop a lynch). I suspect you because we absolutely need the information that comes from a lynch. Even if Erendi turned out to be a good villager, we still learn a lot. Let's say Erendi was just a regular villager, what else did we learn from this lynch? We learned that there is not only a vote changing role among us, but that they are active. We learned that they did not want Mabi lynched (I could also see a savvy Soother/Connecter making sure the vote isn't tied as well). We learned that Erendi was a regular villager, so we don't have to worry about them being Spiked later. We learned that the Spiked wouldn't have cared about us targeting Erendi, as they weren't one of their own. And that's saying that Erendi was a Regular Villager! That alone is a decent bit of information and considering that is was only the first day (where we almost literally have nothing to go on), that's still a good start. Within that, we're not even counting how people reacted throughout the voting process. When we consider that Erendi was actually Spiked, we have even more to go off of. Lynching isn't a bad thing, as long as we go into it with the idea of getting the most out of it. That's why I called for an extension early. We needed as much info as possible. Now I'll say this, if you or Gamut are Spiked, you're both playing incredibly aggressively, which means you're gambling quite a bit. You're almost too suspicious to be actually suspicious. That doesn't mean I'm taking you off my list, but I'm also not willing to discount the idea that you're just confused. I'd love for you and Gamut to explain to me how we're suppose to get information out of suspecting people without lynching. On top of that, I'd like to hear how we're suppose to make people speak up without the threat of lynching. On top of that, I'd love to hear how your way of lynching would be any different. Would we all wind up piling onto a vote once we've argued things out? How would that prevent the Spiked from hiding in the votes? Would we spread ourselves out? How is that different from casting votes in the first place? Do we have a long discussion of where we are going to place votes? Again, how is that different from placing them in the first place? Also, do we have the time for that? It took quite a bit just to make sure everyone spoke up! In the end, yes, you do come off as being the bad guy, but that doesn't mean that you actually are a bad guy (paraphrased from a movie, I'll give anyone Meta Points [which mean nothing, but I'll give them anyways] who can actually name the movie). I leave that up to you and how you act/react going forward. Edit: I'd love to be a Spinner. Casinos here I come!

"I... I was right?!?" Meta collapsed to the ground, sitting down in the dirt with a look of befuddled wonderment on his face. He wasn't used to actually being right. Most of the time, the villagers laughed at his wild conclusions, but this time, he was correct. "I... I was right." Every time he said it, it felt a little more natural to him, as if this could actually be possible. He was still sitting in the dirt and ash though. He was still there when Gamut found him and offered him is hand in peace. "Parley?" Meta took Gamut's outstretched and a shook it with a lopsided grin. "We all make mistakes. It would be foolish of me to hold it against you." But that doesn't mean I still won't be watching you, he added mentally. With that the two headed to The Lurcher. After such an eventful day, Meta was looking forward to a drink or two... or twenty. Woot! Go us! That couldn't have gone any better than it did! A few things I'd like to say. First off, if we have a Lurcher, HELP ME!!! After being so active the first day and then us finding a Spiked, I think I'm a likely target. They probably didn't go after me the first day due to me mentioning how likely that would be before the game started, but now, I'll bet they'd like my head on a platter. Second, just because we got a Spiked from my list of suspects doesn't mean that the rest of them are right. I could be wrong about every single other person on my list and we all just picked the Spiked amongst them. So please, don't put too much weight into my list of suspects. Try to keep your suspicions fluid and changeable. Finally, I'll be leaving for Spring Break on Monday, so I will try to help out as much as possible before then, but after that, I won't be able to write the long, drawn out manifestos I've been doing so far. We've still got a long way to go! 3-4 more Spiked left, I'd guess!

We've only got an hour left, so it's time to make some decisions, people. I'll give us a quick tally and then give my reasoning on who would be a good vote. Clan - l (Maw) Forage - l (Wark) Erendi - ll (Meta, Bartson) Mabi - l (Asp) JasonPenguin - lll (Chid, Asp, Forage)* *I doubt these votes count, but these people might want to change their votes, obviously. The only two on that list that I think are worth voting for is Erendi and Mabi. Mabi due to my suspicions above, but it would be a shame to lose someone who is active. Erendi is probably not Spiked, but is a safe lynch. It's effectively the same as voting for Lents, considering that if they're not active in the thread, then they're not much help to us. Last game, the Crew could've won it if all of the players had been active. Instead, they had 2 people who never showed back up and it cost them the game. Getting rid of those that are inactive helps by keeping the Spiked from using them later. I urge people to vote for one of these two people. Even if the Spiked do try to control the vote, they'll be giving us far more information than they would like by telling us that not only do they have an emotional allomancer, but we'll be able to narrow the field down to whom it might be. It's entirely possible that neither one of them is Spiked, in fact, I'd say that it's more likely than not, but like I said before, we're never going to have enough information, especially on the first day to lynch a Spiked assuredly.

Guys, we still have about 18 hours left, if my count is right and the last thing I want is a bandwagon. While Erendi is a safe vote, considering I doubt we're going to see him again (though I want to give him as much time as possible to speak up), we need as much discussion as possible. I will switch my vote the second it looks like everyone is going to just pile onto Erendi. We need to hear more about how everyone is thinking and such. I will say this, we're going to want at least a 2 vote difference between votes in the end so the vote-changing roles can't affect it too much (the Spiked would need all three of them or duplicates).

I've already clarified that part, Gamut. To Chid, of all people, someone who seems to think you need defending. Perhaps you were not within hearing range at the time, though that seems a bit, as Vizinni would say, 'inconceivable.' I suppose it is natural for you to suspect me after I share my suspicions of you, but I can guarantee that I have only the Village's interests at heart. The only reason you have that quote to try to use against me is because I worked tirelessly to reproduce that manifesto multiple times and post it all through out the town and I did this before the end of the first night. I did so, just in case I might have been targeted during that night. In other words, I have done my best to help the Blackwater (even during my RP), while your course would lead us to being at the same point we are now, but down another death or two.

I'm seeing it whenever I scroll over someone's name rather than it showing what they are viewing. I figured I'd let you know, just in case it helps you narrow down the issue. Also, this is the second time I've gone to post something and gotten the below. Refreshing the page fixes it, but again, just FYI in the hopes that it helps: {"success":1,"post":"\n\n \n\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\n\t\n\t\t\n\t\t \n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t \n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t#276\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t \n\t\t\n\t\t\tHolder of the Death Note Shard<\/p>\n\t\t\n\t\t \n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t \n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\n\t\t \n\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\n\t\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t \n\t\t\t\t\t \n \nI meant that more as in if no one speaks up against a lynch target. The Spiked will always<\/u> want to defend themselves from getting lynched, so they will try to deflect votes onto other people.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n That is why bandwagoning is dangerous. If the Spiked don't think that they'd be able to save one of their own, then they won't speak up and just go with the group. <\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Now, they might try to use this against us and not<\/u> defend themselves if one of them comes under the chopping block, but to do so would mean that they have to gamble on us actually changing our votes and that might not happen. <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n <\/p>\n I've already clarified that part, Gamut. To Chid, of all people, someone who seems to think you need defending. Perhaps you were not within hearing range at the time, though that seems a bit, as Vizinni would say, 'inconceivable.' <\/p>\n <\/p>\n I suppose it is natural for you to suspect me after I share my suspicions of you, but I can guarantee that I have only the Village's interests at heart. The only reason you have that quote to try to use against me is because I worked tirelessly to reproduce that manifesto multiple times and post it all through out the town and I did this before the end of the first night. I did so, just in case I might have been targeted during that night. <\/p>\n <\/p>\n In other words, I have done my best to help the Blackwater (even during my RP<\/span>), while your course would lead us to being at the same point we are now, but down another death or two. <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t \n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t Think you can fool your fellow 17th Sharders? Join the Sanderson Elimination<\/a> today!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Special thanks to Awesomeness Summoned for the wickedly awesome avatar! Get one yourself here!<\/a>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\n\n \n\t\t\t\t \n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t0\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n

Could be. It's more that I think you've been subtly trying to distract and keep people from gathering information, but that could just as much be from inexperience than it is from being Spiked. I keep my suspicions fluid and open to change, so just because you or anyone else is on my list doesn't mean that you will stay there. On a side note: Peng, with as wonky as the site has been today, will you be taking that into account for our time or do we just have to live with it?

"Chapter 3: Be Careful when everyone knows your the Detective, Because Everyone also knows that he is above Suspicion as... Wait a min... son of a- Who's been messing with my book! You see? Already we've been getting something out of getting everyone talking. I don't know about the rest of you, but I already have a few suspicions based on their actions and how they've responded. We need to keep everyone talking so they can slip up if they are Spiked. That is the purpose of throwing out random accusations during the early game. Gamut, everyone doesn't have any information. That is the whole purpose of all of this, to get information! No one's vote should be solid at this point in time, due to the incredibly low amount of reason we have. The votes will change with the more information we have. Here are my suspicions at this time along with my reasoning: -Active Players: Gamut - His attitude is incredibly suspicious to me. Not only calling for a no lynch (which I will explain below why that is a bad idea), but then he isn't following his own advice. As I stated above, if you don't throw out a few accusations, then you'll never improve your information. I believe his reluctance and his support of a system that will give the Spiked a few free nights of kills is because he has TOO much information, as in, he knows who the Spiked are due to being one and he's afraid that by making accusations, he will come off as suspicious. Chid - Chid specifically defended Gamut when all I did was look at him funny. I had only said that Gamut would be worth keeping an eye on and Chid felt that was enough of an accusation that he needed assistance. The Spiked are more likely than the rest of us to be overtly paranoid about becoming a suspect due to their lower numbers. They can't afford to lose too many people too early, so Chid's defense feels presumptuous, or almost exactly what I would expect of a Spiked teammate. On top of that, he backed off incredibly quickly the second I turned my focus on him. Again, possibly worried about being made a suspect so soon. And while his lynching of Peng is hilarious, it is counterproductive. Wark - Wark was the first to try to drive the vote into lynching territory when we still have little information. I consider this relatively weak as far as everything is concerned, but it is troubling. We do want a lynch, yes, but not without more information. Mabi - Using an RP situation to start casting suspicions is not a good place to start, IMO. As Dane pointed out, even the bodyguards are not above suspicion due to that happening before anyone had even received their role and we are not just looking for those specific two Spiked, but all of them. The balance between the RP side of the game and the strategy side of the game is sometimes difficult to distinguish at times. It is entirely possible though that Mabi is using the RP element similar to how Quiver did in the last game and is using it to misguide us. Joe - I really don't have much here, just a feeling. Here's another person trying to not get us to lynch. By far my least suspicious person, but still on my list of suspicious people. Xaneth - Another person trying to make us think that lynching is bad. -InActive Players Alon - Alon has been checking in, but still hasn't said anything. That in and of itself is suspicious behavior, especially when we need everyone talking and interacting. There is a possibility that the reason he isn't saying much here is because he's saying it elsewhere, like on the Spiked Doc. Erendi - Has only checked in the once and that was to say that they had hoped that they had gotten bumped out of the game. The only reason I can think of for that is that Erendi received a PM at the beginning of the game, quite possibly a role. Whether or not that is a Spiked role is inconclusive, but unless he pops on, then he likely won't be helping us much. Now, to explain why we need to lynch: This is our only reliable means of killing the Spiked. Without it, we only have the Coinshot and they are only one person. I understand why most people are reluctant to actually lynch someone, but for us to get more information, we must first gain information. Each and every death tells us something even if we accidentally lynch one of our own. It help us confirm/deny suspicions, it will tell us who voted for whom and how the vote-changing roles acted. We'll be able to see if anyone tried to distract from a lynch target onto someone else. We'll be able to confirm who the target was and so on and so forth. This is how we get information. We will never have enough information to lynch only the Spiked, especially with our Seeker dead. That is what the Spiked are trying to do, keep us from feeling secure in our lynches. If you're waiting for the Spiked to come out and RP themselves as shady or evil, you're sadly mistaken. This idea that lynching is doing the Spiked's job for them is naive. We don't get any information out of not lynching. Even if we discuss and and accuse and such all day, we have no way to confirm our suspicions without lynching someone. Right now, we need to try to get as much as we can from everyone, so that when we do lynch, we do so with as much information as we can. With that in mind, I'm calling you out, Erendi. If you're a Villager, we need you in here. If you're Spiked, then I have no problems lynching you." Meta slumped into a chair, and grabbed a pitcher of water next to him. He gulped it down as if he were dying of thirst. Perhaps he was; he was covered in sweat. It was a good speech though and after he practiced it a few more times in the mirror, he might be able to get his sweating under control enough that he would actually be able to say it all out in front of the village! Edit: Darn it Alon! I've been working on this for the last hour!

Then it's a good thing I planned to change my vote! I'm not wanting to see anyone lynched just yet either. I want people talking. The threat that we will lynch them if they don't speak up makes sure that they have to say something. What they say (or lack there of) will at least give us information to work with. The fact that Gamut suggested talking and then did none himself is what makes me suspicious of him. If he had put forth some ideas or stated anything other than, "Lynching is bad, Mkay." then I wouldn't have thought it odd at all. I am curious as to why Wark decided to pick someone that was already voted for. He drove it to the point that a lynching was possible and that makes me suspicious. Along those same ideas, why do you feel the need to defend Gamut when there isn't even a vote for him yet? Gamut wasn't even in trouble at this point, but someone else coming forward to defend him is a bit suspicious. Or are you trying to distract others from a lynch on Forage? Besides bandwagoning isn't just two votes. It's when everyone starts jumping on the same person to the point that there is little hope to change the vote. Now, all that said, I'm getting very curious about Alon's whereabouts. I've seen him checking the page multiple times tonight and not saying anything. That said, I don't want to cause a new lynch situation, so I'm retracting my vote for Forage and putting it on Mac. Edit: I already call for an extension. We only have roughly 24 hours left and we haven't even gotten everyone talking yet. As such, I think we'll want the extra time.

I meant that more as in if no one speaks up against a lynch target. The Spiked will always want to defend themselves from getting lynched, so they will try to deflect votes onto other people. That is why bandwagoning is dangerous. If the Spiked don't think that they'd be able to save one of their own, then they won't speak up and just go with the group. Now, they might try to use this against us and not defend themselves if one of them comes under the chopping block, but to do so would mean that they have to gamble on us actually changing our votes and that might not happen.

"Ahem, Chapter 2: Your targets will likely try to distract you from your goals without doing anything to help. They will likely lie and try to make themselves seem warmhearted when underneath, there is the frosty gaze of a killer." Is that your game, Gamut? Meta thought as he watched the ex-pirate cross the street towards the Inn. Are you trying to keep us from figuring out what you're hiding? As a pirate, I would assume you've seen and dealt your fair share of death. Indeed, it did not look good. Gamut was arguing against killing, but providing no other way to find the killers. Instead, all he said was to discuss and then he failed to take his own advice. Most peculiar, Meta thought. I will have to keep an eye on him.

"Indeed. I'd like to chalk it up to Joe's inexperience, but anyone calling for a "No Vote" is suspicious in my mind. We need to make sure that everyone is talking. The killers will reveal themselves if they have to constantly build up lie after lie. As such, we should start trying to draw everyone out. That is why I'm going to start by asking Forage to give us an account of his whereabouts last night. My reasoning for this is simple; if they don't speak up, then they won't be much help to us in the long run, even if they do have a power. Every night, the votes get closer and closer and if we can't count on someone to help, then they will just provide a hiding place for us to have to consider later in the game (similar as what happened last game). Here is a list of everyone that has yet to speak up. I will delete names off of it as they do step forward: Alon Erendi The idea here is not to just lynch any of these people. We just need to get them talking so we can catch discrepancies. I find it far more likely that at least some of the Spiked have already spoken up. Of course, if we do have to lynch someone, doing so from a list of people who aren't actually playing isn't going to hurt us any." If Meta sounded like he was reading things right out of a book, it was because he was. He had found a copy of The Source of Detection, a book that all real detectives knew to be utter rubbish, but that Meta had memorized. Now that there was a true case to solve in Blackwater, he felt ill-equipped to deal with it and so he was reverting back to his training... which consisted of only reading that one book.