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I think we need @If.you.die.I.go.stupid to explain exactly what they meant. They never said either Roshone or Laral, so whilst it might be a good guess, we can't really assume that that's who they were referring to.

There's no character by this name in either The Way of Kings or Words of Radiance. I just did a search in my ebooks: 0 results.

I've had a quick look through the images in the books and I've found a single example of a glyph which displays the Spiritual symmetry: (Sorry about the resolution, this was the best I could find.) It's taken from the Map of the Warcamps in The Way of Kings, the first page before chapter 18. The only possible connection (pun not intended) to the Spiritual Realm that I can see is in the epigraph on the next page which compares Ati to Rayse. However this feels somewhat weak and forced to me, at least without further examples (hint, hint, @1stBondsmith). Also @Argent, I'm really glad to hear that you like this, not least because it was in part your own analysis of the chart here, that really got me thinking about this. Now you've really got me wondering what this evidence you can't talk about is, so please let us know once you are free to do so.

If I might make a couple of nitpicks to start off with. The glyphpair on Elhokar’s cape is wrong. The crown and the tower that you've depicted are used by Dalinar, Elhokar instead uses the crown and the sword. The chasmfiend’s mouth is wrong. It’s described in the book as being “full of barbed mandibles” (many rows of teeth in other words). With that out of the way, let me just say: Wow. This is incredible. Having taken a course in 3D modelling & animation, I understand just how much work and effort must have gone into this and am a little bit in awe. If you don’t mind me asking, how big is the team that worked on this? And which software are you using; Blender, Maya, something else? I’m really looking forward to seeing more of this. In fact it’s enough to make me want to try modelling some other Rosharan wildlife.

@1stBondsmith What an insightful comment. I didn't knnow what you said about the dual point symmetry (it certainly didn't come up in my mollecular symetry class), you taught me something here. I'll have to read up on this, and give it a think, but it sounds really promising. And as for the the point on the Shardblades, I hadn't even considered that this might be due to Realmatic interactions . I'd assumed that the Stormfather wouldn't become one, simply because he was throwing a tantrum. This would make so much more sense though. I have a question however: what's your basis for assuming that Renarin also won't get a sprenblade? Is there already speculation to this effect that I've missed, or are you making the connection now based off of this?

Hmm, you've clearly put some thought into this, so I don't want to come across as too critical here. That being said, some of your statements have come out of nowhere to me. Where did you hear that the Unmade were Slivers? I've never heard this before, a quick search turned up nothing on it, and it doesn't make much sense to me. The Unmade are known to be Splinters of Odium, which is a different thing entirely, and I'm not sure how they could be both. Is it possible that you mixed them up? As Splinters though, they are made of Odium's Investiture, and must have been made after Odium's arrival. The Nightwatcher is not one of the Unmade: she is related to Cultivation in some way (there's speculation that she's a Splinter, but that's unconfirmed). Where did you hear that she's the mother of the Midnight Essence though? This is something else that I've never heard before. I've been assuming that Re-Shephir was the mother of the Midnight Essence due to her description in a death rattle as "the Midnight Mother" The idea that one of the Unmade might have turned against Odium has been speculated on here. By the IRE I'm assuming that you're referring to (Secret History Spoilers) Well I hope this hasn't come across too negative , I'm not trying to shut down discussion here after all.

I don't think that @nervousnerd's point is entirely without merit, although he's certainly missing a step. Unlike the character in the spoiler box, Jasnah is a Surgebinder with access to the Surge of Transportation, which we know can bring things into Shadesmar. Also we've seen that she is able to Soulcast whilst both in the Physical and in Shadesmar. If she were to find the cognitive aspect of a backpack, then I could conceive of her using Transportation to bring it fully into Shadesmar with her.

Firstly let me say that I’m really glad that you like it, and also thank you very much for your feedback. With that being said, I don’t think that this is much of a problem with regard to my theory. Whilst I may have jumped the gun a little by saying that we know that the system works the way I states (since now that I think about it I can’t remember ever hearing it be confirmed explicitly), it is nevertheless very strongly implied that it works the way that I stated, and as such I feel fairly confident to use it in the theory like this. Consider the following description of the Oathgate at Urithiru from Chapter 87 of Words of Radiance: From this it seems clear that each of these plateaus is paired with one of the Kingdoms’ Oathgates, and the Oathgate you would travel to would be determined by which plateau you were on when activating it. In fact I was probably wrong to state that there was an Oathgate at Urithiru in addition to the ones in the ten Kingdoms, when really each pair of plateaus is an Oathgate, not a single plateau (so there are 10 Oathgates in total, not 11). If this isn’t enough to convince you, let me remind you that the Radiants reportedly taxed people for travelling through Urithiru (at least later on in the timeline). This doesn’t make much sense unless we concede that travel through the Oathgate meant travel through Urithiru, and that they were therefore taxing use of the Oathgates. With all that being said, you are absolutely correct that the other Oathgates have been locked: they did try to travel to them from Urithiru and were unable to. @Argel Thanks very much for the WoB, this makes my attempted justification for this seem a lot more likely. Thanks, I like your idea and do think that it makes a lot of sense. That being said, I did consider this when working on the theory and ultimately decided that I liked the idea of the powers working on the different Realms at the same time more. When Jasnah (or Shallan) Soulcasts, there has always been an effect in the Physical Realm, it would make sense for there to have been another effect in the Cognitive Realm that we weren’t aware of, for each of those Soulcasts. Additionally, since a part of the theory involves powers in the Spiritual Realm, and travel to the Spiritual is still a bit of a question mark at this point, I thought setting it up this way would allow those powers to still happen with the effects being observed as they propagate down to the Physical. I’m still a little unsure regarding the exact mechanism of these Realmatic interactions, (hence why I placed this in the Problems section) so I would rate this as a very strong alternative, but I think for the time being I’ll stick with the rationalization I stated above.

@Bugsy6912 Thank you so much for the kind words, it really means a lot to hear that you like it (and don't just think that I'm a bit crazy, which it kind of what I feared a bit when I saw just how big it had become). I don't mind if you were to espouse it, I'd be delighted in fact. But absolutely check for inconsistencies first, I did my best to avoid them but it grew very large and I could easily have missed something.

Hello everyone. I expect you’ve all forgotten who I am by now since I haven’t posted here for a couple of years now (save for the odd signing report), life unfortunately got in the way. But I’ve been meaning to come back for a little while now, and I thought: what could be better than doing so with a theory post? Some things have been simmering in the back of my mind for a while now and I need to get them out. Hopefully you don’t hate what follows, and don’t end up wanting nothing to do with me (or tracking me down and lynching me ). So without further ado, allow me to present my first (and hopefully not last) theory. For this theory we need to consider all four of the end pages of the Way of Kings. All of the images that I’ve found of them on the internet separate them out into four different images, however I feel that each chart/map pair is supposed to be taken as a single diagram for reasons that I’ll give below. I’m therefore presenting them both here as they were in the book, and as I think they should be viewed. Much of the speculation surrounding the second chart has been that it pertains to Voidbinding in the same way that the first chart pertains to Surgebinding. I’ve been thinking for a while that this would be a very strange inclusion in the book since we’ve yet to see Voidbinding: it would be much like including a chart for Haemalurgy in the first Mistborn book. Additionally, two of the larger glyphs are not connected to the smaller symbols, which would seem to imply that there would be Voidbinders without powers, which would be weird. It’s also been suggested that it relates to the fabrials in some way, but I don’t see any real similarity between them. There are five types of fabrial that we know of, and no grouping of five in the chart; the fabrials are known to utilize the surges, yet it hasn’t been suggested up until now that the smaller symbols are Surges (at least not that I’ve heard of), and if they are why then are the larger glyphs each connected to two of the smaller ones as with the Radiant Orders? And how do the myriad of spren types used in the fabrials relate to the diagram? In short, I don’t think either of these speculations are correct. I’ve been trying to figure out what this chart is by analysing the symmetry of both charts, starting with the symbols for the Surges in the first chart and their equivalent symbols in the second. The first thing of note here is that the two sets of symbols are distortions of each other: part of each pair is the same, but the other part is opposed. As a result of this, whilst each of the surges has a single axis of reflectional symmetry, the other symbols have no reflectional symmetry but instead have order 2 rotational symmetry. So what does this tell us? Well, by itself, not much; however it was then that I noticed the borders to these images. These are the same for each pair of images, however in the case of the Surgebinding chart the border has been reflected between the two, and in the case of the other chart it has instead been rotated by 180°. In other words: the transformation of the border matches the symmetry of the symbols in their respective charts. This is why I think that these images were placed together as they were in the book for a reason. If they were unrelated and hadn’t been created together (in world), then this pattern wouldn’t be observed, and I think that Brandon presented them to us like this for a reason. The fact that the two charts follow the same internal structure, with one juxtaposed by the map of Roshar in the Physical Realm and the other with the Cognitive version, suggests to me that these two charts are in fact the same chart but pertaining to different Realms. If I may reiterate, the symbols I was discussing earlier are the same but distorted from each other: I propose that they are both symbols for the surges, and that they are distorted because the surges themselves distort between the Realms. Or to put it another way, the powers behave differently in the Cognitive than they do in the Physical. This would mean that the larger set of Symbols in the Second chart also represent the Orders of the Radiants. I think this is supported by the fact that the glyphs in both charts share the same colouring and the same symmetry (1 axis of reflectional symmetry), thus suggesting that they are both representing the same thing (not distorted as with the Surges), but a different glyph is used because it’s a different aspect of the Orders. (It’s worth noting though that the Cognitive glyph for the Truthwatchers is unique in that the symmetry does change: it not only gains a second axis of reflectional symmetry, but it also gains order 2 rotational symmetry. I have no idea why this is the case, but with this in mind we should probably keep an eye on Renarin going forward: something is going on here.) The final thing to note with regard to the charts is that the connections between symbols are identical in both charts, save for one glaring difference. There are no connections from either the Bondsmiths or the Truthwatchers, to any of the Surges in the Cognitive chart. This would imply that if members of either Order were to end up in Shadesmar, then they would not gain other abilities related to the Cognitive, unlike for every other Order. But why would these two Orders be so much more limited? Well, I don’t think they are; I think instead that they are just aligned differently Realmatically. Consider what we’ve seen of Renarin and how it pertains to the Truthwatchers. We know that they have some capacity for future sight; however their Surges are Progression and Illumination, which (from what we have seen of those Surges elsewhere) have nothing to do with that ability. However we know that seeing the future is related to the Spiritual Realm, so it would follow that the Truthwatchers gain additional powers from their Surges, not in the Cognitive Realm like other Orders, but instead in the Spiritual Realm. Similarly, the Bondsmiths are speculated to have powers related to Bonds, which are a type of Connection. And we know that Connection is also related to the Spiritual Realm. So whilst the other Orders are aligned with the Physical and Cognitive Realms, Truthwatchers and Bondsmiths are instead aligned with the Physical and Spiritual Realms. And this means that Brandon must be hiding a third chart from us: the Spiritual Surgebinding chart. I was looking for textual evidence to support this theory when I remembered Jasnah’s plight from Words of Radiance. As we know she used the Transportation surge to escape into Shadesmar at which point she became trapped. But if the Surges behave identically in both Realms, why could she not just use it the exact same way to return to the Physical? We know from her unpublished scene that it’s not because she lacked the Stormlight to do so but rather because she needs a “junction”, such as Honour’s Perpendicularity, to do so. This sounds exactly like how someone without access to the Surge of Transportation would travel between the Realms, yet we saw that when she did rematerialize in the Physical she did not do so in a Shardpool, but rather in the middle of nowhere. This suggests to me that she did use Transportation, but it behaved differently, exactly as I proposed above. Which leads of course to the question of what the Surge is doing in the Cognitive, and I do have a suggestion for this. We know that the Cognitive Realm is far more malleable than the Physical in terms of its geometry; it is after all shaped by the level of cognition in a particular area. I suggest that the Transportation Surge is capable of distorting it even further to the point that two different locations can actually overlap one another. With this in mind, after arriving in Shadesmar, the Elsecaller (or Willshaper) could travel to either the nearest junction, or to their destination in Shadesmar (whichever is closest). Then they could overlap their destination with the junction and thereby leave via the junction, but arrive at their destination in the Physical. There is an apparent problem with this however: it would mean that you would be required to travel through Shadesmar without the aid of the Surge to an extent, and as such it doesn’t allow for instantaneous teleportation. The Oathgates on the other hand, which we theorize to be fabrials that utilize Transportation, appear to do exactly this, thus contradicting my speculation. But, looking at this more deeply, I think there’s a way that it doesn’t have to be a contradiction. We know that each Kingdom had one Oathgate, plus there was an Oathgate at Urithiru; moreover each of the Kingdoms' Oathgates connected to the one at Urithiru, but not to each other. Travel via the Oathgates therefore, necessitates travel through Urithiru. This seems like a bizarre limitation to intentionally build into the system, especially for an organization that put such an emphasis on freedom of travel. I know that it’s been suggested that it was set up this way for the purposes of taxation, or as a symbol of some kind, but I think otherwise. What if Urithiru was built upon a junction? If this were the case then it would instantly work with my theory: every time you use the Oathgate you are already at one of the two places that you would need to be at. It also means that the gates were set up this way out of necessity: it would have been impossible to connect every gate to every other gate. And at this point I remembered the epigraph from chapter 35 of The Way of Kings: “The place nearest to Honour” sounds to me exactly like Honour’s Perpendicularity, which we know from Ivory’s testimony to be a junction. The first sentence also takes on greater meaning if this theory is true. If Urithiru is to be the centre of the Oathgate system, then it has to be built on a Perpendicularity. If there isn’t a Perpendicularity in Alethela, then it cannot be built in Alethela. Problems With the Theory Why couldn’t Jasnah use this second method to leave Shadesmar immediately? This is a huge gaping hole in the theory, and my only possible explanation for it is that she was simply too inexperienced with the Surge, or that she wasn’t at a high enough level in the Elsecallers at that point to be able to manipulate the Surge in that fashion. Ivory knew this so stated it as impossible for her to leave without being at a junction. I’ve been assuming, based upon Ivory’s testimony that a Perpendicularity is a junction, that the two are equivalent; however this isn’t necessarily true. Even if all Perpendicularities are junctions, this does not necessarily imply that all junctions are Perpendicularities. Therefore, there could have been something special about that location in which Jasnah reappeared, that meant that it was a junction even though there was apparently no Perpendicularity there. Therefore, this is not necessarily evidence for my theory. Jasnah’s subsequent conversation with Wit makes me think that it is unlikely that the location was special though. In Jasnah’s unpublished scene, we see Jasnah perform Soulcasting within Shadesmar, and it appears to function exactly like every other Soulcasting we’ve seen performed in the books. The only thing that I can think to explain this is that, since we know that performing a magic will have some effect across all three Realms, we saw the results of the Soulcasting as it appeared in the Physical Realm only. Something else would have occurred in the Cognitive Realm when she did this; but since Brandon stopped the reading at the exact point that we would have found out what this was, we can only speculate on it. Conclusion/TL;DR The mystery chart from the back of The Way of Kings is a Surgebinding chart for the Cognitive Realm. Each Surge Functions differently between the Physical Realm, the Cognitive Realm, and the Spiritual Realm. All Orders have powers associated with both the Physical and Cognitive Realms, except for the Bondsmiths and Truthwatchers which instead have posers associated with both the Physical and Spiritual Realms. The Transportation Surge allows for both travel into the Cognitive Realm, and the distortion of the Cognitive Realm’s geometry. Each Oathgate is connected to the central Oathgate at Urithiru out of necessity, not choice. Urithiru is built upon Honour’s Perpendicularity.

Basically, I meant that since the soul is divided into two separate parts: the Breath that can be given away, and the remainder that can't, the gap that the Stormlight could get in through would be between these two parts.

So I've now got back from the signing in Edinburgh yesterday, and I recorded the audio again. I really enjoyed this one, and I was able to stay to the end this time so I was able to ask a lot more questions this time. Brandon gave short answers to them so I got through a lot more that I expected to, with the result that I hadn't actually prepared enough questions . So my questions, quoted verbatim, were as follows: Q. Regarding Vasher, what was his name before he returned? A. That is a RAFO, but just a minor one. Vasher's past is a factor in Nightblood the book, and so I'm staying away from all answers about that. Q. In the Final Empire, Kelsier says that it will take 300 years before atium grows back in the Pits of Hathsin. How does he know this? A. I think it is mentioned somewhere else how long it takes a crystal to regrow, and he's just basing it on the past, when a crystal is damaged, how long it takes one to come back. I'm pretty sure that that is even mentioned somewhere, but if not, that's just how he knows. Q. With most magic systems, you've said that you need some sort of gap in your soul for the investiture to get in. On Nalthis, there's obviously a bit that they can give away. Is this how Vasher is able to get Stormlight? A. Yeah. (Brandon looked like he was going to expand on this, but he just repeated yeah instead.) Q. Suppose you had a full feruchemist, who got enough breath to reach the fifth Heightening. What would happen if he started storing in atium? A. (Laughs) I'm going to RAFO that one. Q. Kandra, you're not getting any more of those. But they can die, so what's stopping them from creating new creating new Kandra out of the mistwraith by recycling the Blessings? A. That is mostly just cultural. (As we were leaving, after I'd turned the recording off, Brandon expanded on this a bit. So this next part's not verbatim, but he said that in The Bands of Mourning, we might expect to see Kandra using other Kandra's spikes.) Q. You've said before that the Horneaters are hybrids, half-human... A. Not really half any more, but yeah. Q. Are there any other hybrid creatures, would you consider the Koloss-blodded to be this? A. Not really, I don't consider them, but the Herdazians also have a bit of Parshendi in them. Q. With regards to the Dor, whereabouts is it located exactly in regards to the Realms? A. Oh you're the first person to ask this one. It is in the Cognitive Realm. I think you might be the first one to crack that one. So, that's something that I've been dancing around for a while, waiting 'til people started to figure that one out. That's not where most of them are. That was the last prepered question, so this next one I made up on the spot and as a result it is really bad. Q. There's some similarity in the effect of Hemalurgy and the Dakhor magics. What would happen if you were to try combining the two? A. You would have some pretty evil dude, I would expect.

So I've got back from the signing now, and whilst I did record the audio, I don't recall anything of major significance being discussed. Unfortunately I only got around to asking 1 question, though I will be going to the Edinburgh signing tomorrow, so I should hopefully be able to ask more there. Q. In Words of Radiance, the Stormfather refers to himself as a Sliver, how is this the case when he is apparently a splinter? A. (paraphrased) The stormfather is a cognitive shadow, but he doesn't know the correct terminology. Terms such as splinter and Sliver don't really apply to him.

Apparently this is possible. I'm not convinced that all of the ideas proposed here are viable though, Hemalurgy seems to get much more complex and the options more restricted, the more spikes you add.

There's also this one: This has very clearly been fulfilled precisely as stated by the end of Words of Radiance. Yes they're confusing until you've seen what they're referring to, but they're not imprecise, nor are they vague.

No he isn’t at the centre, but that isn’t what’s important, only that the forces involved are precisely equal and precisely opposite. Beyond that, the only real difference between the two situations is that one of them is 3-dimensional, the other 1-dimensional. According to the Coppermind, Rosharan gravity is 0.7g, which equates to 6.86ms-2. When a Windrunner changes the vector of his/her gravity, the result will be based off of that number. So if Kaladin were to lash himself straight upwards (for simplicity, let’s assume that Roshar has no atmosphere) he would accelerate in that direction at a rate of 6.86ms-2 initially. However as he gets further from the centre of mass, that rate of acceleration should decrease. In other words the strength of the gravity is the same, merely inverted. Therefore, if he lashes himself in two precisely opposite directions, we know that the forces in both directions must be equivalent (to put it another way, the absolute values of the scalar part of the forces are identical). I want to try and better explain my earlier point about the Basic Lashing involving natural forces, since I don’t think I managed to properly express it. Consider this WoB regarding time bubbles in Mistborn: I think that, as with the time bubbles, someone affected by the Basic Lashing will be entirely affected by it due to their perception of the force. So for someone lashed in a given direction, every cell, every molecule in their body will be affected equally by the lashing. So when lashed in two opposing directions, the forces will be precisely cancelled out at every point in their body. I hope I’ve made my argument clearer now, I don’t think that there is anything more that I can say to support my position. I’ve also enjoyed our discussion. Since I’m feeling a bit guilty for going so far off topic, allow me to contribute something towards it. I’d use 1000 Breaths to awaken a fork to eat my dinner with, that way I could be sure to have some company. Not sure what Command I would use, maybe “Skewer things”? (I’m not sure if someone already thought of this one or not, I haven't had time to read all 28 pages.)

I was thinking of it more in terms of being at the centre of mass of a gravitational body. If we take the earth as an example, at sea level the acceleration due to earth's gravity, g = 9.81ms-2. As you go down below the earth's surface that number will grow steadily larger until you reach the earth's centre, at which point it will drop to 0ms-2 as the gravity from all directions precisely cancels itself out. Any object at this point (though how it got to this point would be anyone's guess) would therefore become weightless.

Well this is embarrassing, you are absolutely correct. This also explains the problem that I was having with vector addition. I'm an idiot (or else I shouldn't really be posting at 4am). I think the main point of my post is still correct though: I just got the numbers a bit wrong.

This is brilliant Outis, I'd forgotten about that, and you are correct about the use of the word "abomination". Note the use of the plural form. I would guess that this means that he is referring to the Shardblades carried by Darkness's minions, therefore he feels the same way towards them as the Stormfather and Syl. Since Wyndle is a spren that seems to be more of Cultivation, I would suggest that this is very good evidence to say that all of the spren have the same reaction to the dead Shardblades. Regarding your speculation on Darkness/Nalan: I also think that he was the Herald who went back for his Honourblade since we saw him holding Stormlight, and we have the following WoB.

But that's my point, lashing upwards cancels out the downward pull, so logically if you lash yourself upwards once and downwards twice, the opposing pulls would also cancel. By extension: for all x, lashing yourself upwards x times and downwards (x+1) times, the pulls will cancel. (The confusing part is that if you lash yourself sideways, you apparently stop being pulled downwards. I would have thought that in order to stand on a wall you would have to lash yourself both upwards and sideways, but you evidently don't: I never have understood that.) The difference between the Basic Lashing and Allomantic steel/Iron is that one is adding/changing a natural force, the other is the force. When Vin pushed/pulled in opposite directions, it was like she had invisible arms that were literally pushing/pulling on her body. When Kaladin lashes himself multiple times in one direction, he naturally feels a powerful yank, because he is feeling the force of gravity multiplied that many times in that direction. In our example though, we have two external forces meeting equally at the position of our Windrunner, so they cancel and he/she feels nothing. If we wanted to crush his body, then that would be correct. But unless I'm being stupid, it would have to be UPPER Body UP, LOWER Body DOWN, in order to tear yourself in half.

I don't think so. When you lash yourself upwards once you become weightless, there is no mention of either Szeth or Kaladin feeling a force pulling them in both directions (as far as I can recall). I think that the forces resulting from the lashings would just cancel each other out. Now, if there were some way to lash your upper body upwards and your lower body downwards, then it might tear your body in half, but the lashings apparently don't work like that.

In The Way of Kings it explicitly states that this is not the case: Szeth is able to heal himself here because Kaladin didn't hit the bone, and therefore didn't kill any of Szeth's limbs.

I thought that it was well established that the Honourblades consume Stormlight held by the user and that this means that those using an Honourblade to get their abilities, could not use enough of their Stormlight towards healing to heal limbs severed by a Shardblade. Since those with a Nahel Bond do not have this restriction, they can heal from this sort of wound.

1) The parshmen are not Voidbringers, but they will become Voidbringers if and when they are bonded to Voidspren. Every indication so far indicates that this will happen when the Everstorm reaches them, it's been all but stated explicitly. The only real unknown here I feel is whether or not they actually need to be outside in the Everstorm for it to affect them, or whether they will be transformed when it reaches them regardless. The parshmen in the Alethi warcamps were unaffected by the Everstorm, because the Everstorm has not yet reached the warcamps. The Parshendi/Voidbringers could only summon the Everstorm practically on top of themselves, so it formed to the east of the Warcamps, and then continued to move eastward (that's why they had to wait until the Alethi army had actually reached them in order to summon the storm, else they wouldn't have been caught in it). It was explicitly stated after they reached Urithiru that the warcamps were one of the places that they were sending warning of the Everstorm to, which wouldn't make any sense if it had reached them already. 2) Syl probably doesn't care about the Shardplate because it isn't the body of a dead spren. There's not much we know for sure about the nature of Shardplate yet, so it's really open to speculation at this point. 3) It's possible, but as I said before: we don't know much about the nature of Shardplate, so... 4) We know that the Stormfather shares Syl's aversion to dead Shardblades. As for other types of spren, I don't think that we really know yet. I've been assuming that it's universal, but it could be that there are other types of spren who don't share it, or at least not to the same extent.

If you were to Hemalurgically spike an Allomantic power into a non-Allomancer, would that person still need to Snap in order to use that power, or would Hemalurgy remove the need to Snap? Is the answer to that question the same, before and after Harmony changed the Snapping process?