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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Well, it's painfully obvious that the village has probably lost this game. Still, I'll put a probably symbolic vote on Mr. Doctor, and pray for forgiveness from the Contribution Crusade.- 177 replies
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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Oh whoops, let me edit that real quick.- 177 replies
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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Well, if we only have 24 hours, we might as well make them count. Let's try to eliminate people who aren't voting first. Both Cycles: Gancho Libre, Cadmium Compounder, Devotary of Spontaneity Cycle 1: Coop, Droughtbringer, Kidpen, Megasif, Shqueeves Cycle 2: Snipexe, Elandera, Sart, I think I am here, Mr. Doctor No vote: Crimsn Wolf, Stink, Deathclutch19, Xinoeph512 I'll put a vote on Deathclutch, at least for now.- 177 replies
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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yeah, this game is going way too fast for me. Normally, QFs have 24 hour days, but they also have 24 hour nights. This game combined the two, so it's going twice as fast. Should we extend turns to 48 hours?- 177 replies
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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Right so, I basically did a huge IKYK back there. I was trying to gauge reactions on what would happen if I dropped my mobile. Theoretically, an eliminator would leave my room, in order to not look suspicious by taking an item. However, that didn't happen, so I'm left to judge based on the meager responses to my PM. It probably didn't help that I concocted my plan late into the cycle. Still, of the people who responded, I'm most suspicious of Megasif. His response was a courteous thanks for letting me know. However, that would have been late at night for him, as rollover is 5AM for him. Thus, he's staying up too late playing the game, making me suspect that he is an eliminator, eagerly awaiting the results of the kill. It's weak logic obviously, but I don't have too much else to go on.- 177 replies
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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
@BrightnessRadiant Does moving rooms count as an action? Just making sure you can't kill then leave in the same cycle.- 177 replies
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Quick Fix Game 34: A Great Calamity
Sart replied to BrightnessRadiant's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Signing up as Father Fuchsia. Edit: How does one get items in this game?- 177 replies
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Made some revisions to the quick fix game I'm going to eventually run. The Melee (QF Game) Flavor: Every year, students from Armedius Academy participate in a free-for-all tournament known as the Melee. You're going to be one of those students, hoping to take top prize. Rules: This is a free-for-all game. There are no teams in this game. The last man standing wins the cup. If the game ends with all players dying, the person who survived longest with the most kills will be the winner. Cycles are 24 hours long, but have no day-night distinctions. Each cycle, you can do one of the following actions. Line of Forbiddance: Protect a player (usually yourself) from one attack. Line of Vigor: Attack another player. Line of Making: Send chalklings at another player. They cannot do any actions during the next cycle. The order of actions is Forbiddance, then Vigor, then Making. Cycle 0: The first cycle will be different than the rest. It will be 48 hours long, and PMs will be open for everyone to strategize in. You must choose one of the following defenses. Ballintain Defense (4-point circle) The quickest defense. You can no longer defend yourself, but your attacks deal double damage. Matson Defense (6-point circle) The standard defense. This defense has no drawbacks, but no advantages either. Taylor Defense (9-point circle) The hardest defense to set up. You can't take any actions Cycle 1, but if you make it to Cycle 2, you gain an extra life. Be wary! If more than a third of the players chooses one defense, people will be expecting it, so half the players who choose that defense will be eliminated before Cycle 1 starts.
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Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
Sart replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Vote Count: Steeldancer (1): Elandera Young Bard (1): Mailliw Kidpen (1): Fifth Scholar I'm ignoring the votes on the GM. If those don't count, we're letting the Spirits get away with a free kill. That's not what we want in the slightest. So, to prevent shenanigans I'm going to vote on Young Bard. Hopefully, Joe will take the fall instead, but I would rather lynch someone who hasn't posted than someone who has. -
Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
Sart replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Independents have the ability to PM people without an action, so they would theoretically PM everyone 1 on 1 conversations. -
Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
Sart replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Did we break the game on Day 1? According to the rules, the Spirits only have two players to start with. We reveal who is in each faction, and the independents make a PM with everyone. If the Spirits didn't start in a faction, they are outed, so we lynch one and sic the madmen on the other. Perhaps they can get one conversion off, depending on order of actions. Either way, we deal a major blow to them. The main catch is, did the Spirits start in another faction to start with? Well, if one villager was in two factions, then it's certainly possible. If you are in two factions, just reveal it straight away, so we can stop this idea. Like Mailliw says, if they have already infiltrated us, we wouldn't lose that much. They would just separate who the Independents are from the third faction. I don't see much risk in doing this. -
Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
Sart replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Just a heads-up, I won't be very active the first week. It's just a busy week of classes. Actually, I haven't signed up yet. Call me Rat. -
Unfortunately, I believe Phattemer to be a misguided villager. On Day 2, Kidpen expressed suspicion of Phattemer and Steeldancer. In addition, the vote swung from Phattemer to Kidpen on Day 3, which I attribute to Phattemer in no small part. However, he's gone a bit mad with power. After Araris died, he decided that the Synod was Spike free, since the hopefully only Spiked member died. Thus, on Night 3, he tried to do a culling of everyone he thought was suspicious, using the Synod's power to its fullest extent. He hired an assassin to kill Worldhopper, arrested me, and had the other members send kill actions against me. Luckily for myself, you were targeted instead. As I've said before, I disagree with Pattemer's assumption that the kill placed on you was from the Spiked. There's numerous holes in that argument. The biggest hole, in my opinion, is we can't ask the dead people what they tried to do. It's entirely possible that Rathmaskal was the one trying to kill you. While I am village, his argument isn't air tight. All it means is that I wasn't the one to place the Elim kill Night 3. Moreover, we cannot be certain of the Synod's lack of Spikes. Both the person they assassinated and the person they tried to kill were both villagers. Well, I know I'm a villager at least. Still, my point is that there still could be Spiked among the Synod, and we shouldn't clear anyone based off that evidence. We're nearing the end game, one way or another.
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Fair enough. While I still think it's possible that he was storing Pewter and Bronze, I still can't think of a good reason why he would protect himself by tapping one charge. So, I'll remove my vote on Cadmium Compounder. I've already pointed out why I don't think Steeldancer is evil, so I'll be avoiding that particular lynch train. I would rather not vote for a new player, and so I'm not very suspicious of Ark. That only leaves one suspect. I really don't like the list Jondesu keeps using. It seems arbitrary at best, as it includes phattemer and randuir, who I both consider fairly village. His main exoneration was him voting for Cadmium last cycle, but if Cadmium is telling the truth, that's not a point in his favor.
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Just to be clear, did you gain an extra life, or did you just protect yourself Cycle 3?
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You're tunneling on Phattemer. He was the first vote on Kidpen Cycle 3, although he waffled and ended up third on the vote count. I highly doubt he's an elim, although his logic for not suspecting me leaves a lot to be desired. You're forgetting that Rathmaskal or Worldhopper could have sent in the kill. My alibi isn't solid by any means, and thinking I'm clear is foolish of you. Still, at the very least, we know I didn't kill anyone last night. So someone else had to put in the mafia kill. The question is: who did? True, it's unlikely that there is a third Pewter Ferring. But, that doesn't stop you from being a Spiked Full Feruchemist, does it? I didn't suspect them Day 3. However, once Kidpen flipped, I suspected the people who didn't vote for him a lot more. The main thing I noticed was this post by Kidpen Day 2. That's obviously not a slam dunk, but it's enough to lessen my suspicion of Steel some. So, in conclusion, there's no good reason to trust me, but I'll try to help the village as long as I can.
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Honestly, I would just say post it at this point. We've waited long enough for a QF, and I trust you to run a fair game.
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Cadmium Compounder jumped way up in suspicion when he kept his vote on Randuir late in the cycle. He had the last post that Day, and stated that he saw no reason to move his vote. Now, I'm not sure if that means he was an Eliminator, but that post stuck out like a sore thumb. Now we have evidence that he was attacked and protected last night. Since it's unlikely to be Pewter tapping, that only leaves us with one other option. Someone protected Cadmium last night. In that case, who benefits from him being protected? He was one of the main suspects, so protecting him would suck if it turned out he was a Spiked. In my mind, there's only two likely scenarios. Either his Spiked buddy protected him, or Cadmium is a member of the Snyod. Since the Synod has killed a villager, we can no longer be sure of their innocence. I hope they are innocent, but we can't be sure of it. I wasn't the one to attack Cadmium Compounder. I had planned on killing Worldhopper, but someone role-blocked me, plus the Synod took care of them any way. I'm probably going to get lynched, and there's not much I can do about it. I can still give my suspicions, although they might be a poison pill until after I'm dead. Unfortunately, I doubt that everyone voting on Kidpen is innocent. Even if we assume that Cadmium is guilty, there's probably still another Spiked left. Kidpen was trying to kill Steel, so that seems unlikely to me. Ark is a new player which makes me think his mistakes are based on newness and not malice. Jondesu has been voting on Cadmium. And I know I'm innocent. I'm even doubting my read on Cadmium at this point. I wish I was guilty, but I'm unfortunately a Villager.
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Hmm... Not sure why Cadmium Compounder didn't die. The only two scenarios are tapping Pewter, or being protected by someone else. If they tapped Pewter, they did it during the day, which doesn't make much sense. He wasn't under that much suspicion beforehand, so that would take some planning. If he did in fact tap Iron, t doubt the Elims would have two of the same role. Of course, he could be a Spiked Full Feruchemist, which would balance out a Full Feruchemist in the Synod. On the other hand, if he was actually protected, who protected him? I was told Cycle 1 that you couldn't self-protect, so that's off the table. In conclusion, I'm not sure what's going on, but I would like an explanation.
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I'm not on the rules committee, but I have some concerns: First off, I was confused on this particular line. " The Oracle may put the tiles in any order they wish, and marks one item on each tile that best fits the crime. " The first part makes sense, but the second one confused me. I didn't realize that a tile was a general category. I thought a tile was a general word, like "The Victim's Build was Large". I would reword that section slightly. "The Oracle receives 4 random category tiles. They mark one item on each category, and can arrange the categories in any order." I only figured this out once I saw a video explaining how the real game is played. My major concern is the role of the Oracle. Quite frankly, I don't think that should be the GM's role. In the games we run, the GM is supposed to be impartial, so they can resolve disputes between the factions. Having the GM be on the village's side is a very slippery slope. While I know you would never abuse it, it's a really dangerous precedent that I don't want to set. In more practical concerns, I imagine there would be some kind of write-up, which the GM might be tempted to put more hints in. To avoid this situation, why don't we have the Oracle be another player? They would still be banned from posting, but would control the category tiles through a PM with the GM. The GM would still be responsible for confirming player's guesses. That would alleviate my concerns, and allow for another player to join in. The main issue is timing. To setup the game, the murderer selects a piece of evidence and a murder weapon, and then the Oracle marks out information implicating those items. The Oracle can't do their job until the items are indicated. If we allow 24 hours for the murderer to select those, then we would need another 24 hours for the Oracle to work. That's 48 hours where no one is posting to the thread, which would be highly annoying. The simplest solution is to determine the key evidence and murder weapon randomly as well. That would save 24 hours, while still giving the Oracle time to make their case. Overall, I'm excited for this game, and I hope you consider my suggestions.
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Welp, my gut is a Darkfriend. Might as well post the vote count I did earlier. Phattemer (1): Steeldancer Randuir (2): Cadmium Compounder, Sart Kidpen (6): Rathmaskal, Stick, Phattemer, Randuir, Xinoeph, Bort Cadmium Compounder (1): Jondesu Worldhopper from Yolen (1): Ark/Pretty Sart (1): Kidpen The people who voted on Kidpen aren't cleared from suspicion of course, but people who voted on others are probably more suspicious. So, going down the list: Steeldancer: Kidpen expresses suspicion of him on several occasions. Thus, I have a village read there. Cadmium Compounder: A big suspicion. He seems to know that Kidpen will flip Elim, and writes a post accordingly Jondesu: It's hard to say. He's going off of gut, which isn't helpful. Probably not elim if Cadmium is elim. Worldhopper from Yolen: Defended by Kidpen several times. Definitely suspicious, although it could be pocketing a new player. Ark/Pretty: Probably not evil if Worldhopper is evil. Sart: In my defense, Kidpen did vote for me. However, I look really evil right now. I wouldn't be surprised if I get killed tonight by a villager. So, if I had to give my biggest suspicions, I would say Cadmium and Worldhopper are the last two Spiked. However, I've been really off this game, and it's entirely possible that a bad guy joined the bandwagon late in the cycle. Still, those two are my best bet.
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Phattemer (1): Steeldancer Randuir (2): Cadmium Compounder, Sart Kidpen (6): Rathmaskal, Stick, Phattemer, Randuir, Xinoeph, Bort Cadmium Compounder (1): Jondesu Worldhopper from Yolen (1): Ark/Pretty Sart (1): Kidpen Hmm... This is a total bandwagon. I guess I shouldn't be too mad, considering that Kidpen is voting on me. On the other hand, I recognize that I haven't been playing the best this game. My night lynch plan was a terrible idea, because the Elims probably just let me submit the kill and do their dirty work for them. So, that means he's at least doing some analysis, even if it was just a boneheaded idea from a villager. Unfortunately, because of the nature of the bandwagon, I can't do much to turn this around. Based on the candidates with one vote on them, I'm going to go with Randuir. I don't like villagers arguing for bandwagons. Bandwagons are easily susceptible to manipulation, and don't work unless there are two or more bandwagons happening at the same time. It just feels wrong to argue for a lack of discussion.
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Hmm... I'm worried I'm tunneling on Phattemer. I had forgotten about his day one vote on Araris. It wasn't a poke vote, although I still don't understand the reasoning behind it. However, I'm willing to widen my suspect pool. I'm going to place a vote on Stick for now. Not sure why exactly, but it feels like they've been slipping under the radar.
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"Well, that's awesome! I mean, not about Izzy, but still. We got a Spiked! And it was the rug merchant, huh. Well, he tried to get the lynch off Citonia (Phattemer). And, well, Izzy (Alvron) was voting against them too. So, like, this is a pretty good case, right?"
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"Um, that could have gone better." Xineoph (1): Sart Worldhopper from Yolen (1): Ark1002 Kidpen (1): Stick Phattemer (2): Steeldancer, Alvron Snipexe (6): Araris, Rathmaskal, Worldhopper from Yolen, Xineoph, Kidpen, phattemer
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