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  1. Araris Valerian
    Well, I am going to move my vote from PK to Adamir. I am thoroughly confused as to how going inactive for a week is supposed to be helpful to the village. Additionally, if he really does have shardplate, regardless of his alignment, once it is gone then we can have a better discussion where the best lynch choice doesn't threaten to set us back a whole cycle of discussion. Just because we lynch Adamir this cycle, if he survives, doesn't mean that we need to vote for him again next cycle, especially since we will have more info from the eliminator kill. I also want to call out Shallan a bit, for something she did last cycle. She said that she would come on in the last bit of the cycle and place a vote. That doesn't seem like very villager friendly behavior to me, since if anyone disagrees with that vote then we can't really factor that into the day cycle discussion. So why, Shallan, did you decide that it was best to wait until the end of the cycle to vote?
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    Well, I have been a bit defensive for a reason. When two of the first votes in a cycle go on you shortly after you offered to sacrifice yourself for the sake of the village, and there are two more people that have openly expressed wanting to lynch you for little to no reason then it is about time to start defending yourself. I may have gone a bit far, but all of the points I made were valid to some extent and needed to be said. It would have been nice if somebody else had noticed the things that I brought up, since they weren't really justifications but really just and explanation of events everyone already knew about. And the reason I have gone after those folks a bit is because none of them has expressed solid suspicions of me, except maybe Lopen (but I still find what he posted a bit flimsy, it's just better that what anyone else has done). So it seems like at least a couple of people are voting on me because I've been judged as suspicious by the crowd, so it is fairly safe to put a vote on me. As for voting on Adamir, I've tried calling him out but haven't really gotten a response, but it also doesn't look like anyone else would be willing to vote with me on him. I have been trying to use my vote to emphasize my suspicions that I haven't already made clear to everyone.
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    I'm really confused right now, but Mailliw wants me to vote for Phatt. However, I think I will abstain from voting right now since I'm not sure how much of this discussion is people trying to mess with Wilson and how much is actually geared toward being productive.
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    Sorry I've been away and I don't know how available I'll be for the next week or so, but I would like to retract my vote on Mailliw.
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    My vote will go on Paranoid King for now, since his activity over the last couple cycles has been suspicious to me. See the posts I made last cycle. If he comes on and responds then likely I will switch my vote to Adamir, who I strongly suspect for how he went after me. Also, Macen, could you outline in what ways you think I have acted suspicious?
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    Ok, so I removed my vote from Alvom. He is still on the top of my list, more so for not addressing the points I brought up against him. But Adamir seems a little more suspect in that regard. I'm not sure about Winter. She hasn't really done anything to make me suspicious, although that is partly because of what you said; she has been neutral about several topics. I am not comfortable placing a vote there though, so far. The people I would be fine with lynching are: Adamir Alvom Paranoid King and to a lesser extent: Shallan Lopen Each one of these people has done something or several things to draw my suspicions. I have already stated what I think about Adamir and Alvom. PK I suspect of being involved in a ploy the night Hero almost got lynched, and his lack of solid contribution this cycle adds to that a bit, although I do understand not having any strong feelings. (By the way, PK, the Day 4 lynch is the one you voted 2 minutes after the cycle was over and Hero didn't die because your vote didn't go through. Everyone that voted after I resigned myself from being lynched has basically been confirmed good, which I believe soft-confirms me) Shallan seems a little off to me (note the above post where she says we are spread out but then doesn't place her own vote), and Lopen seemed overly eager to jump on me this cycle, and his analysis didn't include the points I have brought up several times already today.
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    PK, that post doesn't really accomplish much. If as a group we decide to go after an inactive then Venture is a decent option, which I have brought up before. But the fact that Venture hasn't posted much means that we aren't likely to get a response this cycle. I, for one, would like to hear your opinion about myself and the other names that have already been brought up this cycle, since I personally would like to resolve why Adamir and Alvom have been pursuing me so much, and why 2 other people were convinced to vote for me this cycle after events that should have soft-confirmed me. What are your thoughts on the day 4 lynch?
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    I would like to point out that Antillar Maximus, who is my brother IRL, is unable to continue in this game. So I don't know what is going on with pinch-hitting and so forth, but I just wanted to throw that out there. I'm going to put my vote on Mailliw for now. He has been on here and made a post but didn't really say anything helpful. I am also a bit suspect of all of the people during the last cycle that flooded the thread with PM requests rather than listing all of them at once. It just doesn't seem like normal behavior. On that note, however, it seems like most people are taking this game on a less serious note than previous ones, which is fine. But it does make the thread a bit hard to follow. I suppose after 10 or so of us are dead that behavior might go a way a little faster . Edit: Vote Color
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    Well, just because it says I'm viewing the thread doesn't mean that I am actually watching IRL. I leave tabs open quite frequently. I do have some speculation on who Cultivation is, but that isn't really that helpful to the village and it isn't really based in anything solid. Also, this is the night phase, so I am holding back saying too much until there is a small bit of solid information to go off of. - Araris held a dagger in his hand, then closed his eyes. Slowly, the metal of the blade receded toward the hilt before vanishing entirely. This world was not safe, and already he had learned that carrying spare metal on one's body was a hazard. Well, this Odium and his followers could scarcely be more dangerous than the Vord, and those hadn't been able to make a scratch in his metal skin.
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    Oh yeah. I didn't realize that Alvron was dead. So actually it doesn't really make any sense at all for me to be an eliminator, unless PK is also one that made a ploy to try and dissociate himself from Hero. The reason I brought up his name is because 2 votes were placed after I resigned myself to being lynched, any one of which would have saved me. 1 of those was from Alvron who was proven good. One from Clanky who made a bit of a leap to lynch Hero, an eliminator, the next cycle. Then there was PK, who would have killed Hero, an eliminator, if his vote had gone through. Basically, I think that the last bit of the Day 4 lynch and the resulting information we have gained since should soft-confirm me, although not as much as someone like Clanky that actually killed an eliminator.
  11. Araris Valerian
    I am going to vote for Alvom. If I had a second vote then it would go on Adamir. The two of them seem to be pursuing me without offering much in the way of reasoning. Yeah, I voted for STINK in day 1 and he was innocent. Is there anyone in this game that has voted every cycle and never voted for an innocent? If voting based on our genuine opinion opens up the risk of getting killed when we find out we are wrong then disucssion will drop dramatically. Yeah, I also voted alongside Ripple for Honey (I'm confused as to why this is suspicious, since Honey had made a post but acted contrary to what that post said). Lopen, I think the wording I used was "a little silly," but I'm on mobile now and it is a bit of a pain to check. Anyway, it is a little silly for the eliminators to stack their votes like that. This was Ripple's first game as an eliminator, but I know from experience that if all of the bad guys are arguing for the same thing it is a lot easier to connect them together. Also, if you think I am an eliminator then you should look back at who voted after I refused to change my vote, and see if you also suspect them. (these people are Alvron, Clanky, and maybe PK, although his vote could have been a ploy, which I personally consider unlikely) Notably, Hero posted in that time frame but did nothing to divert the vote from me (although possibly because it had already been tied). Clanky also is likely good based off of his discovery of Hero. So do you think Alvron is an eliminator in addition to me? I think that is something you should seriously consider before killing me. If I am an eliminator then I was either betting my life on another random player trying to save me (which seems risky to me, personally) or I was counting on a teammate. But as a villager, unless we get a lucky lynch, my death offers my team as much info as just about any other death. I'm not sure what else I have to add to the discussion. I am still semi fine with getting lynched since I head off to college at the end of the week, but I would rather it be because I did something stupid than because 2 people mentioned my name early in the game and a couple more tagged along without much of their own reasoning. I also think that the Contribution Crusade is something that is a legitimately good tool that we should invoke if there is no clear target by the end of the cycle, but not let it detract from actual discussion. Edit: Color on Vote
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    Adamir, I'm not quite sure how I was creating a bandwagon in Cycle 2. I put the second vote on Honey Badger after concluding that STINK wasn't likely to be an eliminator simply because of his different playstyle. Furthermore, it seems a bit silly that two eliminators would vote 1 after another like Ripple did there, especially with as little reasoning as Ripple gave. But that one thing seems like flimsy evidence to doggedly pursue putting votes on me, especially when there is another topic like Hero's impending lynch approaching. I am reminded a bit of the Elantris LG, where Meta voted persistently for one player (Don't remember who), and when he got called out on it he revealed his role as seeker. But you can't be trying something like that. Unless you got corrupted and have a seeker role or something. I want Alvom to respond to this as well, because both of you have been going after me for what seems like fairly flimsy reasoning.
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    Winter, Kipper's vote created the actual threat of a lynch and therefore added to the validity of today's discussion. I don't see that as any reason to put a vote on him. 2 votes with lots of time left in the cycle isn't going to create a random lynch by any means.
  14. Araris Valerian
    Well, Hero has a few votes on him, but I do think that it is a bit strange that so many people were willing to vote based off of that information without anyone, until Sart, bringing up the alternate possibilities. I am suspicious of Hero for a few of my own reasons (it would be nice to hear a few of his suspicions now that he has been saving up, according to him), and this is a little suspect, but I think my vote can be more useful in other places. Adamir, you have vote for me a few cycles in a row, without ever making an attempt to convince anyone else that I am guilty or, from what I have seen, answered any of my questions about your suspicions of me. I'm fine with being killed because I did a bunch of things that draw suspicion, that means that I need to figure out why I look like I'm on the wrong team and fix something. But your vote doesn't contribute anything to the discussion, and since I seems to be a suspect to a few people, nobody is thinking twice (or at least posting) about the lack of content in your post. Macen, I am interested in hearing what you have to say about Hero and myself. I also am going to go back and try to look at who publicly agreed with the concept of using codes in PMs. Because that sort of thing seems to be nearly as helpful to the eliminators as it would be for the village. Although less so now that we have lost 2(?) couriers.
  15. Araris Valerian
    An Penrod surveyed the gathered Lords and Ladies. She had been rather worried, what with all the cries of treason going around. But apparently treason wasn't quite the same thing as having a solid relationship with the skaa, or any unruly activity said skaa were involved in. House Penrod would have to get copies of all of these proceedings, of course, and it would be interesting to hear what the defendants had to say. She personally doubted that Lord Zerrung was guilty of treason, since her sister was now married to the heir of that house, and when her mother had examined that house's records everything had been in order. But with all the intrigue going on across the empire, anything could be kept a secret for a long time.
  16. Araris Valerian
    Well, I am not an eliminator. But I guess you guys will get more information from my lynch than from nothing, so I'm not changing my vote.
  17. Araris Valerian
    Well, Alvom, I am just interested in what you have to say this cycle, and whether of not it adds or takes away my suspicion of you. So I'll wait to hear a little more after you finish analyzing stuff. Also, Seonid, I have already posted once this cycle, so I'm not sure what exactly you want to hear from me. I had a post ready yesterday, but forgot that when I changed tabs to look over the thread, it would delete my post. But basically I am a bit confused by all of the attention I am getting, particularly I am confused as to why Kipper's suspicion of me should lead to my lynch. I don't think he would have had much info that the rest of us don't, and his opinions are just as valid as anyone else's (also just as invalid). I am a bit wary to trust people's claims in PMs, and other people should be wary of using that, because if you use something like that as a villager and get another villager lynched then it is easy for the eliminators to turn that back on you. That is part of how I lost the Steelheart LG to a very nefarious Wilson.
  18. Araris Valerian
    Hmm, this is interesting. We have two people, each claiming something that the other disagrees with. It would be nice if we could hear from Hero again, but he is going to be gone most of this cycle. It might be worth waiting until the next day cycle when Hero is around (hopefully) to pursue that discussion, Sart. I am going to put a vote on Alvom for now. I find some of the arguments they used in the lynch last cycle a little strange and would like to hear from them again.
  19. Araris Valerian
    @Raven: Okay, that makes sense. However (and this bit is about why I am still suspect of Venture), posting single sentences, regardless of playstyle, doesn't do much to help us, especially when the posted vote is in the range where people look at the lynch as inevitable. I was merely curious as to why that subject had been dropped by both people when it seems relevant to me still. We may not have much in the way of activity from him, but proportionally, his posts are more suspicious than anyone that has been suggested this cycle. @Winter: I agree wholeheartedly, especially with the extension. Do you have any further thoughts since the post you made earlier this cycle? @Adamir: So, can you outline your suspicions of me (or at least the point you already brought up)? That is, all you have really brought up was the Day 1 lynch, where I opposed STINK in his argument against the lynch. Not to mention that he changed what he was doing a few times toward the end of the cycle to match the general crowd, rather than sticking to his guns. Switching sides in an argument for the sake of appeasing a crowd is suspicious, in my opinion. (which is what I read [past tense here] STINK as doing) If you are reading this STINK, hopefully you stick around for enough games to kill your killer!
  20. Araris Valerian
    Well, I am going to vote for Venture Mistborn. His vote on Mailliw yesterday was a bit weird, and was in the zone where other targets were becoming less and less viable. Furthermore, it would be nice to hear his opinion of what is going on today. However, I would also like to call attention to A Smart Guy and RavenRadiant for not mentioning Venture at all this cycle. (Smart Guy hasn't posted yet however) I would think that with a decent majority of people voting for Mailliw and you two sticking to your guns, you wouldn't be so fast to move on from him to other targets. Edit: Typo
  21. Araris Valerian
    Wow, I'm setting a new record for early game suspicion that is not due to a stupid mistake haha! Alvom, you didn't really say why you are voting for me. (And I'm not sure I really have much to defend, either) However, as far as STINK is concerned, I voted for him early on, but reached to conclusion that he just had a different playstyle from the rest of us. I actually think that he would have been a decent kill for the eliminator team to have made, since he was a large part of the reason that we had so much discussion. I'll hopefully add to this and/or place a vote in about 4 hours, but I have to go tutor somebody right now.
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    I'm in! Araris Valerian is signing up as a metalcrafter from an undisclosed planet.
  23. Araris Valerian
    I have a public action: Action 1: Who: Valeri Penrod What: Making a contract with House Zerrung where my daughter Arina marries into that house, I send a shipment of milk to House Zerrung and receive a shipment of IronBows and 3 wealth in exchange. Furthermore, I agree to sell House Zerrung a shipment of Milk every Turn 1 of each Generation in exchange for 6 Wealth Where: Luthadel Why: Trading is good When: First Action
  24. Araris Valerian
    Well, Wyrm asked for some feedback in this thread, so here it is: Things that I like: - There is a whole lot of room for us to develop our house however we want - There isn't a super competitive feel, so I don't have to worry if I am going to win all the time - Reading everyone's RP and doing some of my own is really great Things that I have felt could be optimized: - Even with the inflation changes, it still feels a bit unproductive to trade with other players unless we exchange multiple items or do a long-term contract (perhaps a dedicated trading action or something, maybe with a wealth cost to Obligators?) - Maybe certain types of actions should always be public? Or two public actions and only one hidden one? I dont' really know what everyone else is up to at all, although there are probably several ways to deal with that But overall I am having a great time playing, thanks Wyrm for running this and I look forward to when you resume in Generation 5!
  25. Araris Valerian
    @Wilson: Thank you for the clarification. I had forgotten about that post in cycle 1. And I'm not overly worried about dying (especially from the lynch, I've never been lynched early in a MR or LG from what I remember), but I am looking for where to place my vote, and I wanted to see what all everyone had against Mailliw. I guess he has a few more things going against him than other players, but I am going to continue to refrain from voting until later on. Although, unless I missed it, Mailliw hasn't responded this cycle, has he? So that would be interesting to hear.
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