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QuantumHarmonix

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  1. Has anyone ever asked if Shardplate is Aluminum? I wonder if Aluminum is what makes Surgebinding with it difficult?
  2. Permanent connections are probably to strong of an idea. I'm thinking now it might be better to think of something more like a messenger particle, or maybe a reference from programming. The spirit web might then be something akin to a network, with bits of data traveling between various nodes. Where the nodes are either other spirit webs, or specific Forms. A Command would then be like putting in an internal reference, where Forging would be linking to an external reference. Regardless I hate monopolizing a thread, so I think I'll ruminate on this while I wait on a few other opinions.
  3. True, I thought I said I just made up the term? As far as I know nothing like it has ever been used before. That said, I like the idea of a Command being an artificial bridge between a rope and the idea of choking. Since that connection is implausible it requires a lot of investiture, where changing how well a rope was maintained is more plausible and so requires less investiture. I like the idea of Forms, but I'm not sure how else to describe their interrelationships other than calling them connections. Of course it could just be a combination of being tired and the surgebinding chart on my desktop making me see everything connected with little lines.
  4. I was kind of thinking that a Command might be a sort of supercharged artificial connection, and as long as it is powered by a Breath you can make connections that are otherwise impossible. Forging by contrast seems to be a lower investiture system, where a connection is replaced by another plausible connection. The smaller investiture in the stamp is then able to hold the system together, as long as there are not to many implausible connections that stress the system.
  5. Granted, I could and probably am making a leap. It just seems that the better you understand how a thing is made, the more plausible you can make the various connections. And it seems like a better forgery would last longer, but there could be other aspects that are more important. If we are treating a stamp like computer code, I would think that a more plausible stamp would generate fewer fatal errors. Which would mean that the program would run longer before it crashes. Unfortunately, I don't have any proof or quotes for the cognitive connections. Although I think looking at the stick might be an interesting study. It can obviously think, but it's only thought seems to be that it's a stick. It it might be that there is just not much to it, other than a single connection back to the Ideal of a stick. Shallan's problem then would've been that she never offered it a plausible reason it should be anything else. Of course this wouldn't explain why a cup turned to blood, when given a generic instruction of change. It might be better to think about Breath and Commands, since for a Command to work it has to be formed correctly cognitively. Now I'm lost and not really sure where I'm going, it just seems like there might be something here.
  6. What I was remembering was this quote: “To create a realistic Forgery,” Shai said, “you must have the technical skill you are imitating, at least to an extent.” Sanderson, Brandon (2012-11-04). The Emperor's Soul (p. 113). Dragonsteel Entertainment, LLC. Kindle Edition. That's why I think that the better the forger understands how to connect the different parts the better the forgery. It seems to me that a stamp by someone who understands how to paint would last longer than someone who just knows about painting. But I could be taking that too far. Now cognitive connections is something I just made up and I'm probably conflating Ideal forms with other things, so I guess I should explain that a little better. What I envision would be something like the Ideal form of a chain being connected to other various forms, which would make the spirit web of a specific chain. One of those connections might then be to the spirit web of the blacksmith that forged the chain, and it would explain why he wanted to make that chain. Other connections would relate that chain to the techniques and other objects the blacksmith used when making the chain. So every possible chain would have a connection to the Ideal of a chain, with the near infinite combinations giving rise to all possible chains. This means that the more plausible the connection the stronger the spirit web, and the longer the forgery would hold. Since there are plausible explanations for a weak link in a chain, that change would hold. But the implausibility of a chain being made of soap, means that forging a chain into soap would be nearly impossible. It's this seeming dependence on plausibility that makes me thing that the spirit web has to have both spiritual and cognitive aspects.
  7. While reading this discussion, I've been thinking about the explanations of forging given when fixing the stained glass window, and creating the mural. When creating the mural the stamps stamps not only had to provide a plausible reason for the mural to have been made, they also had to describe the technical processes behind its construction. If I remember correctly the better the forger understood how to make something the better the stamp would hold. Then you have the window. It rejected just being fixed, until it was returned to being stained glass. This seemed very similar to the description of how humans with souls, rejected being stamped. To me this implies that forging requires more than just the spiritual forms, it also seems to need cognitive connections. I kind of imagine you needing to connect the various different forms that make up an object, with plausible explanations for how they had interacted in the past. The more plausible the idea, the stronger the connection. Which would explain why some stamps hold longer, since their forms would be more tightly tied together. This combination of spiritual and cognitive parts would them be what makes an objects soul. Which explains why the window resisted the earlier changes. The soul of the window contained cognitive parts, which gave it limited cognitive abilities. And since the initial changes did not make it what it felt is should be, the tension broke the connections. The plus side is that this might explain why it's called a spirit web, since the interconnected forms would look like a web.
  8. It could be a flashback to Dalinar taking Renarin to be healed by the Nightmother.
  9. I think the disappearing when dropped might be a property of all borrowed blades, whereby they try to return to the original owner. Modern shardblade's original owners are dead, so they can't return. This would let the blade be recalled by the person who last bonded the blade. A herald's blade wouldn't disappear until the herald is sent to damnation, the blade then returns to the herald in damnation. A borrowed herald's honorblade would then try to go back to its herald, but since it was abandoned it can't return to them. This would let the one borrowing the honorblade re-summon the blade.
  10. It could also be Lirin. My one reservation about it being Lirin, is that it seems a bit to dark for his point of view. Although that might have changed after what happened to his sons.
  11. I'm betting that there is a social stigma about wining shards in a duel. Or at least he is unwilling to make the enemies that method would create. It is also possible that he doesn't like the idea of spending the money to borrow a blade, when there is a chance that he could loose his plate. Because he would then be out the plate and the money, which would be rather embarrassing for him.
  12. What if this is the first stage of creating your own shardplate?
  13. And why the response on my signed book was yes.
  14. Since spren are physical manifestations of ideas, it seems reasonable that Szeth's strong faith in his Oathstone could produce a physical reaction. So I think until Szeth is given a strong reason to believe that his punishment was in error, there is a good chance that abandoning his Oathstone could have serious consequences for him.
  15. I've thought that fabrials might not really get their own system as well, but I still think the rear endsheet is connected to them somehow. My reasons are the giant gem in the center, and that it mirrors the shadesmar map which is the realm of the spren. That's why I think it is showing something about attracting spren to certain gems, in order to get a desired result. I also think that the symbols represent the greatshells in the same way the surgbinder chart symbols represent the heralds hilts. I don't really have a reason for that other than the third order symbol looks like a red crab, and the fifth order symbol kind of looks like a turtle.
  16. I don't think we have an official name for the chart on the rear end sheet. Everyone just calls it the voidbinding chart, but it could just as easily be the old magic chart or the fabrial chart.
  17. I'd like to point out that Kaladin had a vision during a highstorm as well. Although the content seemed to be vastly different from the visions that Dalinar receives. So it is possible that the potter had visions like Kaladin's and not like Dalinar's.
  18. So the greatshells would be natural fabrials? Meaning that certain greatshells would have surges similar to their comparative Knight Radiant order?
  19. I thought of that, but unfortunately I think it means that only one of the options is true. But I posted it to see if anyone could convince me otherwise. Yeah, live and learn. The other reason I posted my answer was so that someone else could narrow the response further, since the answer should be one of the options in my question.
  20. For the longest time I've only had the audiobook of The Way of Kings, so for my birthday I decided to get a signed copy. Since I heard that you could ask a question when you got it personalized I asked: "Is the Rear Endsheat about Cultivation's or Odium's magic system? Does it involve Fabrials, Gemhearts, or Voidbringers?" This was my response: For the record I don't think the current theory about it being Odium's system for Voidbringers is correct. I think that it is Cultivation's magic system, involving the use of gemhearts from certain greatshells to create the fabrials that replicate the various surges. Unfortunately, when I tried to make my question fit within the character limit on the personalization, I left the question a little to open ended. I'm trying to decided if this tells us anything new, so I'm posting it here for help. There is also a mark on the top of the book near the Interludes between Part 3 and 4, but I don't think that means anything. If Peter or Brandon reads this, I would like to say Thank You. I know asking for this right near the release of WoR couldn't have made things easier, so I really appreciate you taking the time to do this for me.
  21. I also keep wanting the double eye to reveal some location hints on the map, but it just doesn't seem to work. Order 5 and The Valley seem to overlap, but I can't get anything else to match up.
  22. It could also be that the Stormfather unwittingly singled Syl out to whomever is now targeting her, I suspect Darkness. If Darkness is a herald it is possible that they have some connection or power over spren like the Stormfather.
  23. I know, it's like someone is driving a pair of spikes into your eyes isn't it?
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