Wyrmhero

I can't have been Soulcast, Ace. They would have just made me attack an innocent and made me help them instead. Why would the Shardplate holder being Painknifed matter? There's only a comment of a Painrial being used in the write-up. I am doubtful that Sprenil is GB. If he does indeed have no items, then his original plan makes sense, in that he had nothing to lose by declaring himself as lynchable. It also explains why he hasn't been taking part as much as in the other games he was in. So I am inclined to think he's innocent as well. Could you explain to us why you think Saritu might be guilty, Ace? I don't recall anyone really bringing him up in conversation for this sort of thing, aside from Pailan before he was killed. I can see why you might suspect Cara, though. I have considered that myself. I can't remember why off the top of my head though.

Bah, you're right about that. I'd completely missed that due to the Painrial thing going on. So Awes has Shardplate. That makes things awkward. Interesting then that they applied a Painrial to the person already in Shardplate who would survive anyway, right, Tion? Mind giving us an explanation for why they might do such a thing? First night, you took a calculated risk and got your allies to strike your Shardplate. After all, it put you in such a great position of power. You were almost immediately contacted by the Spanreed holders - Grellin, Jost and Faialen, since you've played a lot, and were 'proven' innocent, and thus you knew who to hit. Over the last three days and nights, you've managed to gain control of all the Spanreed conversations pretty much, since you had you in one with either Ace or Jost, people who were pretty sure of your innocence. The only reason you didn't kill Ace last night was because you thought he had Shardplate, and thus I was the target you wanted, particularly since the next night you could make three kills if all went well. You knew I only had 'one' item - the Grandbow. You and Ace were the only ones who knew my target. I told you I had a Half-Shard some days ago, but you just now said that I never mentioned it on our PM Thread, so clearly you missed it. Ace knew that if I died, then you and Awes were both Ghostbloods. But that wouldn't matter if I died, since Awes could take another hit on his Shardplate in the morning, and you'd win tonight with both your regular kill, Shardblade and the Grandbow. But Ace gave me his Shardplate, so I survived, which was something you didn't quite expect. I'm also pretty sure that you have a Painrial, which you claimed not to have just a few hours ago. Perhaps you don't, or you gave it to someone else. You also don't have a Pain Knife, thanks to the Thief, so you couldn't just stop me from killing Awes. Awes knows there is a Thief, and supposedly knows who it is. Meta knows the identity of the Thief. Considering the state of the messages we get, I don't think he got the Thief's name with it, but Awes told him who it was. Thus the only way to definitely save your ally over both the night and the following morning was for them to not take a hit on their Shardplate. I'm pretty sure you don't have your Shardplate at the moment yourself, since Awes is wearing it, so I'm certain we can kill you today.

Well, that could have gone better, I admit. Wurum wore his Shardplate. He would have to thank Ace for that. Right when he needed it to, since it had saved his life. It also meant that he could wield his Grandbow better., since they usually required the strength of the plate to even be lifted, let alone drawn. He currently held the stupidly large weapon in his right hand, a handful of equally as ridiculously large arrows in his other. Who had even come up with the idea of this. Still, he had a job to do - or to be more accurate, a job to finish. But first... "I trust Tion," he declared. "And Ace, both completely. Tion knew what we were planning, but did not use his Pain-Knife on me. He knew I had protection against Shardblades as well, for that matter. He could have Painrialed Awes, this is true, but why bother? Why not cut it off at the source?" Now it was time to confront a murderer. "You saw a thief in the night as well, did you? Jim, I presume. Well, I suppose that confirms where the Emotion Bracer went to, at least. I suppose I should remind him that the real prize is the Shardblade that one of you has hidden away. A Grandbow is worth nothing without the Plate to use it properly." "I wonder how you escaped suspicion so well? Not a single vote made against you." He drew back the bow with a strength previously unknown to him, keeping the arrow pointing at Awes. This time, he made sure that no-one could sneak up on him. Oh, they would probably hang the man instead of letting him fire his bow, but if he made a move to escape, he could at least try it. "Your friends will probably kill me tonight. But at least I can claim to be the only person who got one of you first."

Oh, why not? Heron shall join this game, since my exams are about over (and as is the other game, it seems ) It is a dangerous thing to be a male thinker in Alethi society. It is, for the most part, a woman's task. Heron holds a dangerous secret close to his chest which he guards carefully at all times: He can read the Alethi script without help.

Well, tonight we are either made or broken, gentlemen. Unfortunately, if Tion is GB, then its definitely broken. We just don't have the time to fix the mistake of trusting him if he is.

You're right, I'd completely missed the fact that it's possible that the Ghostbloods gave away a Reverser in order to avoid suspicion. However, I don't think this is very likely, as Pailan would know if someone had given them an item, and would presumably convey such a thing in a Death Rattle. At least, I'd hope that would be the case. As for giving away a Reverser and having it disappear because of that, can we have confirmation on what happens to duplicate items, Mailliw? Do they just disappear for good, or do they get randomly given to someone or something?

Dammit, that was the best lead we had, really... While assuming the Ghostbloods started with a Spanreed was a flawed argument, I was rather swayed by the fact that he held a Reverser and used it on the day that the Ghostbloods didn't use it. Storms, at this point in the game, I would suspect anyone with a Reverser. There are must be at least three Reversers floating around, since Pailan and Grellin were both innocents who started with one, and we have seen the Ghostbloods use their Reverser before Pailan's death. Running on this train of logic, I see a few possible scenarios: 1a) There are three Reversers. Grellin and Pailan started with one at the beginning of the game. The Ghostbloods got an Emotion Bracelet from Pailan's death, and Saritu got the Reverser. There is still someone out there with a Reverser who is a Ghostblood. 1b) The Ghostbloods got a Reverser from Pailan's death. Saritu is a Ghostblood, as is someone else with a Reverser who got it from Pailan's death. 2a) There are four (or more!) Reversers. Grellin and Saritu started with one at the beginning of the game, as did Pailan and a Ghostblood. The Ghostbloods either got a Reverser or an Emotion Bracelet from Pailan's death. 2b) Saritu is the Ghostblood, and the fourth person is an innocent. I can't believe that there would be four Reversers in this game. It would just be way too easy for the Ghostbloods to get a controlling vote. So I would concentrate on scenario one, and question whether Saritu is innocent or not. For the most part, this boils down to whether he started with the Reverser (in which case, he's a Ghostblood) or whether we think that Pailan would set Saritu up as his heir and he inherited the Reverser. It's certainly possible. Even if they weren't discussing things together, they're right next to each other on the list, which is pretty much a good enough reason as any if you're not in any groups with anyone. That's just analysis from the items Grellin had, though. We can do proper vote analysis in the morning, I think. We just have to really, really hope we get things right when it comes down to it.

Claiming it publicly was bad, as was telling us who you told - That sort of thing should be kept hidden so someone else can't use it against you. Telling a person about an item isn't too bad, since you know where that information is, and you know who knew you had one if you were attacked. Unfortunately, you've changed it so that now the Ghostbloods definitely know. Half an hour (or so) to go guys. This vote could be the deciding factor in this game. one way or another. The suspense is really painful, particularly to someone on GMT where it's already late in the evening and I'm too tired to think straight and want to go to bed

I quite like your deck, Gamma, though I would loathe to play against it. All my decks are too slow to deal with red/white aggro, and so I would get rather demolished. If you wanted to improve it, I would suggest looking into Dictate of Heliod perhaps? For a single extra mana than Glory of Warfare, it buffs both Power and Toughness by 2, and has Flash. I need to get a load of copies for my own decks, but no-one wants to trade them So I took a Green/White/Blue Golem-based deck to the Games Society today. It did surprisingly well, particularly since we play multiplayer and it's practically a straight beatdown deck. 23 Land 5 Island 10 Forest 8 Plains 16 Creatures 2 Blade Splicer - 1/1 who puts a 3/3 Golem into play and gives Golems First Strike. 4 Master Splicer - 1/1 who puts a 3/3 Golem into play and gives Golems +1/+1. 2 Sensor Splicer - 1/1 who puts a 3/3 Golem into play and gives Golems Vigilance. 2 Wing Splicer - 1/1 who puts a 3/3 Golem into play and gives Golems Flying. 2 Vital Splicer - 1/1 who puts a 3/3 Golem into play and gives Golems Regenerate for 1 Mana. 2 Maul Splicer - 1/1 who puts two 3/3 Golems into play and gives Golems Trample. 2 Precursor Golem - 3/3 Golem who puts two more 3/3 Golems into play, and whenever a spell targets a single one of my Golems, it gets coped for each other Golem. It's high risk/reward, but has worked out well so far. 8 Artifacts 1 Sol Ring - This deck is rather Mana hungry, and I don't want to run it in EDH. It seems somewhat fairer in casual, amusingly. 1 Darksteel Ingot - Indestructible mana source that should be a Chromatic Lantern, but I don't have another copy. 4 Horizon Spellbombs - Provide some mana fixing and a bit of draw, and also gives me something to do turn 1/2. 1 Thrumming Stone - An artifact I've wanted to use for ages which gives my spells Ripple 4 - Whenever a spell is cast by me, I reveal the top four cards of my library and can cast any with the same name. Even better, they have Ripple 4 too! I've gotten two free Master Splicers out like this today, and it's great fun 1 Conjurer's Closet - Simply exiles/returns one of my creatures during my end step. It gets me more Golems, basically, though I may replace it with the enchantment that just creates another token at the beginning of your upkeep. 2 Sorceries 1 Search For Tomorrow - A great mana ramp spell with Suspend. I only have one in this deck because the rest of my copies are already in other decks. 1 Rite of Replication - This is a hilarious card to use with Precursor Golem out. For four mana it copies a creature. For nine, it copies it five times. I don't think I need to tell you what this can do in this deck. 9 Instants 3 Rangers Guile - Instant Hexproof. Not much else to say. Thinking about taking it out though, since I didn't seem to need it today. 4 Sheltering Word - Hexproof and a small amount of lifegain. Gets rather powerful with Precursor Golem due to the sheer lifegain/protection it provides. 2 Unravel The Aether - Shuffles target God Artifact/Enchantment into their owner's library. 2 Enchantments 1 Journey to Nowhere - Exiles a creature, like Oblivion Ring, but slightly cheaper. 1 Tempered Steel - A flat +2/+2 buff to all my Golems. I should have four Solemn Simulacrums in this deck, but they haven't arrived here yet. This deck worked surprisingly well, though I stress again it was multiplayer and casual. It gets destroyed in a duel against rush decks, but should be able to survive a slower game. The main problem is the lack of removal in it and the fact that the cheapest creature is 3 Mana, but there's not much I can do about that.

Ah, okay. That's fair enough then. I will retract my vote for you Jost due to your explanation. I wasn't sure if it was behind Meta's back or not. Your PM group is certainly appreciated, even if everyone appears to be somewhat shy. Honestly, I'm still not really suspecting anyone enough to lynch them at the moment. Too much has changed in this game too quickly, and it's meant that we have less information. Ideally, we lynch a Ghostblood today, and can use that to figure out who the rest are. Unfortunately, it's unlikely we'll get the Shardblade back to our side, since we would need the Grandbow user to make a night kill to get it, since Lynching won't get us an item from someone on the evil side. If Grellin isn't evil, then we really have very little to go on. But if he is, then we might finally be able to make some leeway as to who is a Ghostblood. Unfortunately, he's only voted once, for Faialen, so there's not masses we can glean immediately. But if he has an item other than a Spanreed, then that's more information that we can use. Before, I commented that it is cruel to vote for someone while they're absent. However, it's somewhat different if they have a decent chance of being a Ghostblood, especially this 'late' into the game. We cannot risk a Reversal or a nullified vote today. I agree with Meta's points, and I will therefore vote Grellin.

I'll say it again: We could lose tonight if everything goes poorly. Say there are four Ghostbloods. With a Reverser, that means they have five votes. Effectively, they win if there are ten players left. One person will be lynched today. Two people will die tonight. If one of those people has a Reverser, they will have six votes and will therefore have control. That's game over on Night 4. To be honest, my only reasons this day were because Fnorf was highly suspicious of him, and because he hasn't said anything. I want people to talk. People talking is good. I am highly disappointed with the number of people who haven't commented today. But he has appeared, so I'll switch votes to someone else in the hope of getting a discussion going. I remove my vote from Jim. Your theory has merit, Smart. Even now, I do not trust Meta fully. Though you'd be foolish to do so in this game, particularly with how badly we're doing. He is indeed a leader, but unfortunately he's the only leader. We have too few experienced players left for anyone else to assume that mantle, and so there is the danger that a Ghostblood could be in control. The best option there would be to check his entire game and how he has voted for inconsistencies and try and convince us with them. But we need to consider it carefully. If Meta is indeed innocent, then he is the hub we must protect and consider information with. If Tion is indeed GB, then my suspicions would follow on to be Ace, Jost and Grellin, since they've been discussing things all together for a long while. I am suspicious of Jost. When I asked to be contacted by PM groups, I got two responses: One from Meta, with Ace as a 'protector', and one from Jost. Jost's PM group contains six new players as well as him. While this could be an act of reaching out to new players, I can't help but consider it as the Ghostbloods trying to manipulate the newer players. I am not worried about revealing a spanreed holder to the GB, because with seven people in the group, I'm certain at least one is Ghostblood. Considering that Jost hasn't informed Meta that he has inherited a Spanreed, and there are apparently three people with them, I suspect him for going behind Meta's back when they are apparently working together. He has also lynched two innocents. The second day was to 'prove' that someone had a Reverser, and that night we didn't see a reversed vote - though there was no need for one to be used, I admit. As such, I am voting Jost for now, and want him to explain his motives.

"I for one welcome our new Ghostblood overlords," Wurum said, his voice quiet. Fearspren appeared around him as he spoke to the group, or more specifically, to the four-or-so people in the group within the group. "I would also like to remind them that I have no loyalty to anyone, so there's no need for me to die, and don't require large bribes to change sides. Just help my house, that's all I ask. That's all I need for you to gain my loyalty. I never liked the old king anyway." My thoughts when reading that: 'Two deaths? Our Shardblader/Grandarcher is finally doing something! ...Huh, wonder why the Ghostbloods went for Jain. He'd probably be lynched today anyway. Maybe to make sure Tion is weak tomorrow night. Fnorf is a Ghostblood? I wouldn't have expected that. He's done very well to avoid suspic... Oh. ...Oh... Storm it.' Yes, we are in a bad position. There are 14 players left. I would guess that 4 of these are Ghostbloods. As such, there are a minimum of two days left in this game. Gleeman, Adolin, Kasimir, Luckat. VOTE. We cannot win if more than a third of the guys on our side refuse to give out or gather information. If you don't vote, then we might as well be playing with 6 people against 4, which means the Ghostbloods have already won. We need to hit a Ghostblood today. That means we need more discussion than ever before. So, they went after Fnorf. It boils down to either someone was told that Fnorf had a Shardblade, it was a random hit, it was a revenge hit, or they have a Spy (since roles aren't definitely noble). 1) If Fnorf told someone that he had a Shardblade, or if a Spy had found it out, then we can't get any information from this. If they did have one, the fact that the Ghostbloods have a Spy is more-or-less useless to us at this stage in the game. If Fnorf told someone, that would be key. But that would require that Fnorf told a Ghostblood with someone else in the conversation as well. 2) If it was random, then we have no new information to go on, other than who they haven't hit. Tion looks more and more like a good target every day. Tion still (presumably) has weakened Shardplate, so they could have taken him out at any time. They might have been worried that Jain was defending him, but in which case, why did they not go for Jain? 3) A revenge killing would be the most obvious, and perhaps the least intelligent for the Ghostbloods to go for - Though it's worked well for them today if it is with the item they gained from it. Fnorf only voted for one person, and he did so twice - Jim Bob Dirt, who was in danger of death yesterday. Jim has also had votes against him changed twice. As such, today I am voting Jim Bob Dirt. Now, talk as much as possible today and tomorrow. All of you, especially the four who haven't voted at all. If you don't vote today, or at least discuss today (though voting helps add discussion), then you'll miss your chance for basically the entire game, and might as well not be playing. ...Having said discuss, I will be absent for most of the next 24 hours, so I'm relying on you all

Mine comes from the Wyrmhero greatsword back in Final Fantasy XII - The ultimate weapon in the game (or close enough to it). I chose that just because I was playing it at the time when I started to join stuff online, and it quite pleasingly fits two of my main interests within the genre of fantasy - dragons and heroism. I never actually managed to obtain the sword in the game, incidentally. But regardless of origin, it's been my username for the last six years. Annoyingly, some other guy started popping up online about two years ago with the same username, so on a couple of forums, I have a different name, but that's just based off of the name of one of my oldest characters. I find it difficult to think up names of any sort, so I just stick with what I know.

Well, yesterday was a bit of a confusing vote, it seems. I agree with A Smart Guy's thoughts on it, that we have a Ghostblood trying to kill Faialen, and two nobles trying to save him. This is quite useful, since it implies that we have a Reverser on our side. The Emotion Bracelet should be a lot less useful for the Ghostbloods, though it's annoying if they have it, since that means we don't, and that's the only way we could catch them in the act. I am suspicious of those who claimed he was evil. As the three of you in that PM group all voted for him, that suggests that either Tion, Jost, Ace or the Spanreed holder is a Ghostblood. There's a chance you did just all convince yourselves, I admit, but it does seem likely that one of you is a mole.

Oh, I'm not saying that it's on purpose. I don't think anyone is deliberately not talking to the new people or anything like that. As I said, I understand the fact that you want to be sure of people you've played with before, and that you can get a better read on people that have played before. I'm just warning against it becoming a trend in these games.

Thirding the lack of a group. It seems that the newer players are getting left out of things, and I count myself among them even though this is my second game. I noticed that last game, with all the PMing going around. Of course, here it's a bit worse since only Spanreed holders can start conversations. I get that you want to be talking to the newer players, but it'd be nice if it were a bit more inclusive, you know?

My DM doesn't let us touch those classes, though they do look fun. From what I recall, they are a class feature though? I suppose you could perhaps use the Legendary item rules that are floating around somewhere to have a weapon that grows with its wielder... If everyone had a unique weapon, they could grow in strength with the party, which would be nice. I've never truly liked D&D's loot system. I think the problem with balance is whether you want the characters wielding them to be balanced against enemies or other party members. If every party member has a Shardblade, then balance is somewhat easier to find; Start weaker and then just keep raising the difficulty against them until they start to struggle, then keep it around there. If only one character has a Shardblade, then the rest are going to want something comparable as well. If the enemy has one, then just hope he never loses it to them without having a monetary price on it. And Adonalsium help you if the party has a Fighter and a Paladin or something similar in it. Such things can wreck an entire party, as we've seen with Nightblood in Warbreaker.

Touché.

Long-term player here, so forgive the length of this post I started all the way back in 2006 when my grandmother of all people won me a Core Set 9 duel deck starter set. I played just with my best friend back then, since I was at secondary school and being that nerdy was frowned upon quite seriously. I didn't even know that tournaments were a thing back then, let alone Gatherer. My friend and I bought Dissension/Coldsnap/Time Spiral block, and some of Lorwyn. I'm a member of the Games Society at university here, so I generally play Magic with some friends twice a week or so. When I started, no-one at Gamesoc played. I only brought my decks in when I found out that my best friend at uni played Magic. Now there are about 20 people at Gamesoc who just play Magic, though they don't all turn up every week. When I started back up again, it was Innistrad rotating in, though I bought none of the set myself until Avacyn Restored, which I quite liked. For the most part, I only play casual Magic, at a slightly higher level than kitchen tabletop but not Modern or anything like that. Sometimes I play Commander, though generally speaking I dislike playing it due to how the serious people play it. I sometimes do prereleases, though not very often. I generally don't buy boosters, prefering to get individual cards and trades, though sadly my old and really good trades have been... traded away. Playstyle-wise, I'm a pretty solid Johnny. My decks are quirky, slow and rarely work, but that's fine because mostly I play multiplayer. I'm known for making decks with really weird strategies and synergies, and for accidentally playing horrible combos without realising just how strong they are. I have a large number of decks, since I've played so long. Plus I like to reward myself after exams, etc, since I don't go out much, which leads to a new deck or two every year. My oldest and dearest decks are from the old Ravnica/Dissension set: Orzhov (BW) lifegain/bleed, Simic (UG) +1/+1 counters, and Rakdos (BR) discard/burn. My next oldest is my five-colour Slivers from Time Spiral, followed by my Monored Elemental deck, which can do silly things but (as I learnt today) does very little in multiplayer. I also have a load of other, newer decks which are less consistent, and somewhat silly, such as my five-colour Angel deck from Avacyn Restored with only Plains and colourless land mana sources (artifact mana sources!). Recently I've been enjoying playing my GB graveyard-based deck, because it's rather liberating not caring if your things die, and in multiplayer that happens a lot. While I don't play Commander much, I do have two decks that I sometimes use: A BRG token/ramp deck which somewhat revolves around creatures dying, with Kresh the Bloodbraided as its general, and a UBW enchantment deck with Zur the Enchanter as its general. The latter usually gets groans, because people are used to horrible Zur lockdown decks, though mine's not that bad. As an aside, I believe Sanderson plays MtG, right? Anyone know what he plays? I've been wondering for ages.

I think Shardblades in D&D would be rather broken - They ignore armour (based off Touch AC) and are instant-kill weapons if you hit right (Vorpal, or some kind of attribute damage to represent dead limbs. Bonus to Sunder too). I would say that they would also ignore DR. They'd require an Exotic Weapon proficiency, I think, since they're so different to normal weapons. The 10 heartbeats translates into about six seconds, I think? So probably a full round action to call it to them, which would balance them somewhat. Whenever the wielder would be disarmed, I would make them make a Will Save, or it unsummons. It'd be a Swift/Immediate action to unsummon it. Shardplate, on the other hand, is mostly just really good Heavy Armour. Not quite as easy to break (in a mechanical sense). Probably a high enhancement bonus, and maybe base it off Adamantium armour so it has DR/-, with a number of charges of this DR to represent the plate's deterioration. In a D&D-world, I would say that a spellcaster could restore charges by expending a high-level spell slot. For Nightblood, I would look at Pathfinder's Bladebound Magus Archetype, since both the Black Blade and Nightblood both stem from the same place, in Michael Moorcock's Elric Saga. I would make Nightblood as a Shardblade with the Black Blade's intelligence aspect. The usage of it is somewhat harder to calculate though. Perhaps give the wielder a number of charges per day equal to their Charisma bonus? Unfortunately, the Cosmere's special weapons are rather OP when you bring them to a place with no counters. We already know that from the books. Still, if I was looking at a high level fighter, I wouldn't say Shardblades or Plate would be too strong, especially if they have spellcasters. Indeed, it could bring them up to snuff quite effectively if done right. Hope that helps.

Well, if Meta was indeed too late, that allows me to retract my vote and apply it elsewhere. Currently, the options I am considering are as thus: 1) Leave it on Faialen. I am tempted to do this, and simply see what happens, at this point. I am suspicious of the pair of Meta and Faialen, but not enough that I would just vote for them out of the blue. With four hours to go, however, we won't get too much new information. Faialen hasn't come online since to defend himself, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt and remove my vote. 2) Accuse Sprenil again. His actions have been somewhat erratic throughout the game, and his absence today doesn't help matters. But as he claims to have been busy, I will accept his idleness as not having enough time, and not Ghostblood lies. He hasn't voted yet, but honestly that's not too unusual at this point in the game. 3) Put my vote back on Cara. This was just due to his 'vote for Jim because random inexplicable reasons'. Up until then, I had not considered him as a suspect. It's enough that I want him to explain his reasons, certainly, but not enough for me to want to lynch him. However, I will accuse him for an explanation. So, Cara, what are these random reasons?

I think it's somewhat unfair to create a duel between yourself and someone who hasn't even responded to the accusations levelled against him by others last night. But in any case, I have no choice but to retract my vote for Cara now. I am not fully swayed with either of you towards guilt or innocence. Yes, even you, Meta, though admitting it may damnation me somewhat. For the most part, it's not a major suspicion. Alvron's post sums up my feelings pretty well on this matter, aside from reason 3. No offence, if it was anyone else, I'd accept the attack as proof of their innocence, but I can see you doing it just to teach us a lesson. And you can't deny that if you were a Ghostblood, you would be in a very good position, with an early risk that has paid off (if it is even a risk at all). By doing so, the Ghostbloods would have managed to 'prove' your innocence in a game without certain innocence. It's enough of a possibly that I can't simply ignore it where you are concerned. So it's not that I find you guilty, it's just that I am too cautious to accept you as totally innocent. In addition, there is a situation in which creating a duel is beneficial for you as a Ghostblood: The one in which both you and Jain are Ghostbloods, and you are creating this duel in order to stop votes being placed for Jain. Everyone believes you are innocent, and so it's pretty obvious who will lose out in this duel, particularly when you've threatened them for voting against you. Again, don't take offence at this. You could just as easily believe Jain is innocent somehow and be saving him. It's just something we should keep in mind. Now, moving onto the other duelist here, Faialen. I have no new information to shed on him, just the posts on the forum to go by. Jain claims he has a Spanreed. He didn't vote on the first day, and then he voted for Xanas on the second day. However, this vote for Xanas was the second vote that gave a majority. He did it to force a lynch. I'm not going to damnation him for that as such, due to the fact that it seems he did it to get control over who was lynched. However, having said that, today he says the following: Which is somewhat contradictory to what he did on the second day, voting to force a lynch instead of letting the Ghostbloods pick who to kill. What he's saying here is true: We would get a bit more information out of a Reversed lynch (being hanged by the feet?), but the fact that it's a complete reversal of his motives on the previous day makes me suspicious. As such, as far as I see it, there is a contradiction in Aonar's playstyle, but not in Meta's. Therefore, I will indeed vote Faialen.

Sorry, I still don't get what you are referring to? EDIT: Oh, I see, it was a clarification for a Shard duel then? Sorry if that was actually a call for a duel, it was rather difficult to tell when half awake. I'll make a new post to respond to that, since you ninja'd (windrunner'd?) me with your post there.

So much happened while I was asleep... Not that that's a bad thing, mind. I might've missed something, why would we need five votes more than someone else to ensure a lynch target? Did you ever get those clarifications, Meta? Also, whoever it was who said 'don't give away our spanreed holders', the Ghostbloods will almost certainly be in so many private conversations that they'll know them anyway, judging on how the evil side always seems to infiltrate PM groups with no difficulty. I'm not saying that they should be revealed, but there's little need to panic. I doubt that Faialen is a Ghostblood just because Pailan accused him the previous night (again though, it's just as much evidence as we have anywhere else). I'm not sure that the Ghostbloods would kill someone immediately after they were suspected. That seems like poor play on their part, and they haven't done anything too obvious yet. I would've said look instead for who Pailan voted for on the first day. ...Except that was Tors, who was innocent. So that doesn't help. Which is a shame, as otherwise I would've said that accusing Faialen would be misdirection. I retract my vote from Sprenil, since it seems like a bit of a wasted vote at the moment. I am wary of Theorymaker/Cara's 'random inexplicable reasons', naturally. I'm surprised no-one else has commented of this. While it's true that Jim Bob Dirt is somewhat suspicious for his actions and his refusal to vote for anyone except definite Ghostbloods, something that we won't see in this game (the definite aspect, that is), voting for no reason is as suspicious as not voting at all.

Why would they kill Joe, Jain? What information are you apparently privvy to that the rest of us are not? Why will Joe come into possession of a Soulcaster? Also, you are forgetting that Macen claimed to have one on the first day, so if that were true and he does have one, he must be innocent and not GB. I suspect he is still alive because either they assume he has passed it on, or he still has it and they know where it is. I would guess the GBs don't care about their secondary objective yet. They're likely to stumble across such items in their random killings, after all. No need for them to over-complicate things for themselves this early, after all. EDIT: Fixed things I couldn't fix on my phone (colour, spelling and grammar).