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Man, I wasn't on board at first, but this whole Tanavast/Nohadan swap theory is growing on me. There's a really nice sense of narrative logic to it, it's hard to explain - but it lines up in a cool way. Maybe Nohadan really just wasn't cut out to hold Honor, and discovering that makes Dalinar doubt that he could take up Honor without loosing himself and causing another calamity in the vein of the Recreance? But hey, from the preview chapters, we know that Honor actually wasn't splintered. Or at least, the bulk of his power is still intact and un-splintered. That's weird. We've seen time and time again that Shards will always splinter other, adversarial Shards if they get the chance - it'd just be stupid to leave that much power available to potentially oppose them again. Something weird has to have happened - why not an emergency pickup by Nohadan, in the vein of Kelsier in SH?

Wow, BAM looks good! Huge fan of that design, looks super cool. She looks suitably regal for such an important Unmade.

I'm of the mind that the process that turned these primordial spren we've heard about (wind, stone, night) into the more familiar bondsmith spren we know about (stormfather, sibling, nightwatcher) is roughly the same process that Odium uses to create Unmade - it's the same idea, at least. I'm assuming that the Stormfather was present in some form on Roshar even before Honor arrived. Probably as the Wind. Honor arrived on Roshar long before any of the history we know about, and a really long time before humans came to Roshar. Honor was, in my mind, probably responsible for "Making" the Stormfather out of the Wind, and that was so long ago that even the singers remember the Stormfather as a core part of Roshar.

Exactly! Jasnah is the #1 model icon of just doing what needs to be done. She knows how to recognize when someone powerful is using their status to shield themselves from justice, and she obviously thinks that Adolin's model of justice is the correct one in that situation.

Exactly! Shallan being pregnant would just be cheap and tropey. Also, whether she is or isn't right now is completely irrelevant unless Adolin dies and she survives him, and the whole "Male character dies, is survived by love interest who secretly got pregnant right before he dies!" trope is super lame.

This what I thought too. We know that dragons leave behind dragonsteel when they die, and from Dragonsteel Prime, we know that dragonsteel laces all throughout a dragon's body when it's alive. It making up their horns/claws makes perfect sense.

Yep, this is definetly what Hoid was referring to. I wish Hoid had been a bit clearer though, I've seen a LOT of people misinterpreting that line. Vin Ascended to Preservation at the Well of Ascension, then released that power.

Yeah, it's not a perfect metaphor - but using children for her squires makes about as much sense as using children for Sja-Anat's enlightened spren. And while Lightweavers do have a place in Uirthiru, I don't think that Sja-Anat considers that a lasting safe place. If she thought that Urithiru was a safe place for her and her children, she wouldn't be doing this dance of allegiance between Odium, the Ghostbloods, and the Radiants. We can extrapolate from that, and assume that she doesn't think Urithiru and the Radiants are the best place for Shallan either.

I love this! Yes, this is an absolutely essential point - Sadeas was isolated from any other form of justice because of his political position, and he had just admitted that he was going to continue actively working for Dalinar's downfall even in the face of the threat presented by the Everstorm. As the WOB that somebody higher in this thread referenced this says, Adolin didn't view this as murder, and I'm inclined to agree with him. It was far closer to killing an enemy combatant than murder. Besides that, in WoR, the plan was ALWAYS to get Sadeas in a dueling ring with Adolin - and Dalinar might have thought that just taking away Sadeas's shards would have been enough to force him into line, everyone else (Adolin, Navani, probably even Renarin) realized that getting him in the dueling ring was just a set up for killing him.

I mean, Sja Anat is speaking very figuratively when she says her "children", I think she means "children" figuratively when she directs it at Shallan as well. My guess is she was referring to the Unseen Court - they certainly have a familial relationship with Shallan, and I think "children" is a decent metaphor for their relationship as knight/squires.

Honestly, I doubt we have enough information about BAM so far to realize what her plan entails. My guess is it's something relating to BAM's powers of Connection, but it could make sense that she wants to try trapping a Shard like BAM was trapped. In actuality thought, I think we're missing a lot of information here that will only be revealed later in the book. Oh well!

Well, this is confirmed with this week's chapters! I think the biggest problem with this theory is that I don't see a reason why Dalinar wouldn't take up Honor as a whole. He fits Honor's Intent well, and he's already Connected to Honor via the Stormfather bond. It's certainly possible that the Shard's Intent switches when Dalinar picks it up, but it just seems a little less likely than Dalinar picking up Honor normally. Otherwise, good thoughts!

Some really interesting ones in here. Flamespren and Gravitationspren must be REALLY cool as plate spren, and joyspren are really interesting - although they do seem thematic for Willshapers.

Tying in this death rattle really convinced me. From an Alethi perspective, we've always heard Szeth's eyes be called child-like, so I could see this death rattle subtly referencing that. And, this latest epigraph bringing up dust as well is just plain suspicious. Between RoW and W&T we've been seeing that the Unmade, the Bondsmith spren, and these primordial forces like the Wind are all extremely connected. And since Raboniel was trying to Unmake the Sibling, it follows that one of the "primordial spren" could also be Unmade. Plus, it would make a lot of sense for Chemoarish to be Stone, unmade into Dust. It would help explain why the Shin began to worship her - she hijacked their existing worship of stone.

Oh this is a PHENOMENAL theory. Especially since we're getting more epigraphs from the Way of Kings! I'm basically convinced - Taravangian and Dalinar presenting each other with philosophical scenarios via vision and trying to prove themselves right makes perfect sense. And it's the exact kind of tricky subversion Sanderson would go for. A test of Dalinar's convictions and growth would be really interesting, and doing it via vision would allow so many fun scenarios. Maybe Tarvangian even tries to trick Dalinar, like showing him a vision that makes it seem like Adolin's become his champion or something. This also lines up well with what Hoid's worried about - this isn't a move Rayse would ever have tried, and I don't think Dalinar will be anticipating it. Great work coming up with this!

Firstly, it seems unlikely that any of the recently-discovered invasions were begun by Taravangian - they were only discovered a day after his Ascension, I think they were all planned by Rayse. Beyond that, every invasion was designed to begin immediately after Rayse thought Urithiru would be fully under their control at the end of RoW. Because of that, it seems likely that the current invasion plans were made with the assumption that Urithiru would be under Odium's control - I imagine Odium was planning to make the deal with Dalinar after the sibling was unmade, pretending that Navani had reclaimed the tower. So - the coalition has at least one advantage right now, the coalition was supposed to have no Oathgate access while they occurred. Does this seem likely? Is there a realistic way for these forces to be mobilized by Taravangian that I missed?

Number 3 sounds very plausible! It's definitely thematically in line with granting forms of power to singers, although I couldn't back that up with any Realmatic science to prove it's possible. Of course, most of these depend on somehow getting Mishram off Roshar, and it seems unlikely that the Ghostbloods know how to do that. Maybe it is closer to 1, and Mishram will allow them to take Investiture/Invested beings off-planet.

I'm assuming it has to be Ulaam and the folks putting it up just made a spelling mistake. It would be downright silly for a new character named Ulam to be introduced, completely unrelated to the Ulaam character we just recently met.