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    Moash, and the fans who hate him

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    Ideally, what I'd want Taravangian to do is give the maximum no. of people a fighting chance rather than get the highest chances of survival for whatever no. of people possible.

    He actually did do this: Without him conquering Jah Keved the Coalition would never have happens. Each country would have fought on their own and lost.

    Taravangian have them a fighting chance whilst preserving those that he was Honor-bound to preserve: Kharbranth

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    That and include more people in the decision-making. Distribute some information or hints to other powers if possible. Maybe send others to plead with the Nightwatcher.

    He feels very... "mother knows best" with a side dose of I choose who gets to live

    We can assume that if Taravangian thought that would work he would have done it, he didn’t and we can infer from their that it wouldn’t have worked.

    He did what was necessary to save all lives he could, that’s not choosing who lives and dies. That’s preserving as much as you can

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    Moash, and the fans who hate him

    in Stormlight Archive

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    1 minute ago, Frustration said:

    How would this situation eve exist?

    reguardless I think you are looking at that the wrong way, I am not letting them die, they are being killed.

    I am not responsible for other people's actions.

    Does that make sense?

    No since regardless of context X and Y are going to die

    To save X you must kill Y, but without you Y would have died anyway and you now save X so why is that wrong?

    And Taravangian does not think what he is doing moral anyway and that means he knows what’s in store for him and he does it anyway, this to me is the most selfless thing to do even if I think he’s right to do what he did

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    Moash, and the fans who hate him

    in Stormlight Archive

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    Just now, Frustration said:

    You can't fight evil with evil, anymore than you can wash yourself clean of coal stains with mud.

    5 minutes ago, Honorless said:

     

    You should let 100,000 people die because you don’t want to kill 20? (Or whatever the actual number is)

    Thats not right 

    I agree that religion is morality but I don’t agree on your standards 

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    Metalminds and shardblade cut limbs

    in Cosmere Q&A

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    33 minutes ago, therunner said:

    Could those have enough healing stored to regenerate entire body from nothing?  And do it fast enough that the attacker does not simply tear them off?

    Wayne finds that Metalmind that doesn’t seem so big and it heals him pretty fast,I assume that even a small metalmind can hold a lot of it is stored, though your right that an attacker can just rip them off

    And You can fit several Earings on your ear I think

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    Metalminds and shardblade cut limbs

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    Well Miles (The Compounder we knew) was in a constant state of healing so the second the Shardblade hits, even before it cuts through the whole skin, it’s going to start the healing process. So that would only work if you caught them unaware:

    1 hour ago, therunner said:

    unless they have some large metalmind attached to their head).

    *coughcough*Earings*coughcough*

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    Crackpot Whimsy Theory/Thoughts

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    8 hours ago, Brightblood said:

    It could be a coincidence, but I don’t know if I would say that Whimsy would necessarily act contrary to a scholar, I feel like a lot of scholars can be whimsical, and I feel like shards don’t always act in the way you would expect (or at least that is how I have felt).

    I’m not seeing the connection 
    We know a few people who are non interventionist like Frost and Endowment (I think she is) 

    And Whimsy seem more… whimsy than Non- interventional to me “Not terribly useful” seems to imply he would help if he could string together two coherent thoughts

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    Nightwatcher Boon/Bane (Game)

    in Forum Games & Random Stuff

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    9 hours ago, Nameless said:

    I wish for a pair of wireless earbuds that always connect properly, and never run out of battery.

    Granted 

    Though all Tech you try to use other than Headphones doesn’t work for you after it connects

    I wish people (like me) would stop giving Banes that negate the boon like was done previously 

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    Metalminds and shardblade cut limbs

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    18 hours ago, therunner said:

    Hello,

    I was thinking about metallic arts and Shardblades and was wondering, if you have metalmind attached to a limb that has been cut by a Shardblade, can you access that metalmind? I would guess no, since the soul is severed and the limb is then no longer 'part of you' spiritually speaking, but I wanted other opinions.

    Thank you.

    Yep the Limb would have no Spiritual Connection to you so it would not be considered touching when you try to tap it

    Everything you said seems right

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    Moash, and the fans who hate him

    in Stormlight Archive

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    14 hours ago, Honorless said:

    He secured the survival of the people most dear to him. It's "radically incomplete" because you snipped that paragraph in half. We're not looking at context or consequences here, only actions. With those things added, I do agree that Taravangian has a point. My quibble with his decision is him thinking he's most qualified to make decisions on humanity's behalf.

    He was qualified because Cultivation gave him the capacity to save humanity, or at least the largest part he could. And he did save all that was possible to save, or at least probable in his mind. 

    One problem with comparing Moash and Taravangian is that they are completely different in every way, in terms of motivation. One wants to save humanity. The other wants to get justice for his grandparents death (whether right or wrong that’s not the point right now) Both their actions taken out of context are horrible and wrong in my opinion.

    I personally believe that only in the most extreme of matters, where all other options have no feasible way of working, should you resort to killing, Moash, at least the way I read it, could have gone a different path, either becoming a powerful influence to Alethi society or confronting Elhokar without killing him.

    Taravangian on the other hand could never have done what he needed to do without every death he ordered, the Diagram showed him this. It was an extreme circumstance with no other option, he needed to do it. And he never enjoyed it, and he took responsibility for the deaths. 
    Again RoW really sheds light onto this conversation and if the OP could read it then we could fully have this argument.

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    Rhythm of War Full Book Reactions

    in Stormlight Archive

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    6 hours ago, Mistborn Surgebinder said:

    OK, so I'm almost done with my reread of RoW, and I have these thoughts:

    1) This post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules Lirin.  Like, as far as I'm concerned, he's the Dolores Umbridge of the Cosmere.  To call your son a monster, then talk about giving him up for execution... I don't care what your rationale is, or the fact that he got the tattoo later in the book.  He's easily top 3 least favorite fantasy characters of all time.  

    Eh, I just feel that he’s at a lost at what to do with someone that contradicts everything he believes is right. I don’t blame him

     

    6 hours ago, Mistborn Surgebinder said:

    couldn't stand Kaladin's arc the 1st time around.  I loved it this time around.  I don't know what changed.  

     

    Part one Kaladin was pretty bad in my opinion, though I did think the nodes was a pretty bland plot device

     

    6 hours ago, Mistborn Surgebinder said:

    Adolin is seemingly perfect.  I don't know how I feel about that.

    He’s just not doing literally anything so he can’t mess up

     

    6 hours ago, Mistborn Surgebinder said:

    Am I the only person in the fandom who is super jacked about Taravodium?  Like, really listening to his mindset in his interludes, I'm in the fanclub.  Bring it on.  I think it's a really good thing, and I am here for it.

    I am very excited

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