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  1. Bejarden
    Then later he says he asked for forgiveness Dalinar would not have fallen to Odium without Cultivation He would have remained a despot destroying more cities, he sees this There was no selfless intentions, he only wants to change for himself The screams are supernatural not a result of his guilt You are oversimplifiing what Cultivation did. She did not ‘lend him a helping hand on his journey’ she took the first step for him setting him on his path
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    There’s a difference between ‘help’ and ‘let me do all the work for you’ No he wanted to change because he couldn’t handle the screams he tried the ardent, he tried the drink, the Nightwatcher was only next
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    K great so Dalinar gets no credit, that proves my point to
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    ...ok so I am giving Cultivation credit for Dalinar change because without her it would not have happened
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    Fine I agree I overstated that let me try again Would Dalinar have changed without Cultivation
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    Well... now I’m confused Cultivation is the sole reason Dalinar changed right can we agree on that @Frustration
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    But he had no desire to do that until after Cultivation Therefore it was due to cultivation
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    Asking someone to solve all your problems doesn’t mean anything, yes
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    That’s not human but I think we’re all lost by now
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    4/10 What’s the significance?
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    Hrathen @Tani
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    I’m confused I already said Dalinar is redeemed as of RoW what I’m saying is that this happened later, Are you saying the same thing? But there are selfish intentions
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    He mentions what he wants 3 times... 2 of those are asking for forgiveness And he never asks Cultivation for anything only the Nightwatcher He is not near mad, when he is sober he is fine, except for the voices Screams=\=guilt they are supernaturaly caused by the amount of the people he has killed I don’t have to accept anything when I’m right
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    Yes I know that (wow I said this awhile ago) I just wanted to irrationaly believe it and was grasping at straws
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    Subject to debate actually If you hurt someone you do have to do that in addition to the person you hurt but that’s more theological and seeing as Cultivation isn’t g-d and Dalinar doesn’t think she is it’s meaningless A path to redemption doesn’t start at the middle it starts in the beginning This is incorrect he asks for forgiveness You can read the scene he asks for forgiveness, then says can I ever be forgiveness, and then goes back to forgiveness The only reason Dalinar wanted to be forgiven is because he wanted the voices to stop
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    Thanks for bringing this to my attention
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    All of these can only be granted by the person you hurt If I hurt you I cannot ask someone else to forgive me
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    What is this?
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    Ruin can’t see metals, right? This is why the LR was able to hide the Atium in between the Allomantic metals So why was Ruin able to alter what a Coppermind said? Shouldn’t that be to bright for him to see? Is it because it is Feruchemil and Ruin is more Connected to that?
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    Well if Moash is the Champion that means he is Willing, right? And if a murderer wants to fight to the death for an evil entity for rule of the Cosmere I don’t think there would be a problem with obliging him A child on the other hand doesn’t really understand what he is doing, while he can still be willing he is, in my opinion, a innocent kid
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    This is in fact the only thing that matters Forgiveness means nothing given at the hands of a outside entity, asking for forgiveness from that means that you don’t care about the people you hurt, all you care about is you If at the end it worked out, fine that’s ok But it doesn’t mean that you should have gotten forgiveness or redemption because without that Want the Work is meaningless Maybe I should rephrase what I meant originally when I said Want It means you truly feel bad about what you did and want to make up for it, in your heart of hearts you regret it and you are ready to sacrifice to redeem yourself putting in the work is a direct correlation to this, you can want something to be done but if you don’t do it it is worthless Dalinar wasn’t interested in doing any work, but after the Want was instilled in him, he started trying
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    Granted But you cannot process the words that you are reading I wish for many many things
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    Indeed I have TPBM Has played Assassins Creed
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    He wanted forgiveness, but not for the sake of forgiveness. he wanted the voices to stop, and the only way he could think of it was ‘forgiveness’ devoid of all its meaning because forgiveness must be given by the ones you have hurt
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    Can I bring an Icescream shop (That’s a butchering of how to spell icescream
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