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Bejarden

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  1. They don’t? The vision in the Nightwatcher scene His ask of forgiveness was not a sincere ask, all he wanted was to get rid of the voices Cultivation gave him the want to actually change to a good person
  2. The vision had nothing to do with Odium So...Dalinar want to redeem was because of Cultivation
  3. No but she single handededly changes him That what Dalinar saw happened later on
  4. But this just isn’t true that’s the problem Except this wasn’t a normal circumstance in normal circumstances a person does something
  5. Future sight is only moot if there is another Shard that interferes which is what happened with the Nohadon visions I believe This fundamentally changed him
  6. I finished Fellowship of the Ring in 4 hours I read an SA book in 3 parts first 2 hours at night then a 4 hour day reading then 3 more hours at night
  7. I do spend most of my free time discussing fantasy books 1000+ pages... TPBM Is getting their first vaccine shot tonight
  8. “I’m not grumpy I just have a low tolerance for stupidity” -Teft (paraphrased)
  9. Honestly I loved it 10/10 It tears me up when I read it and I’m usually not emotional when I read It was great
  10. She took the part which was bothering him the most: The Screams She also took most of his guilt Dalinar never burns another city so I don’t know what your talking about I don’t see the meaning of this... Dalinar literally accepts that he did the things on Rathalas not the thrill he says no such thing by Cultivation
  11. She took away key components of his life Rathatlas, his wife, the things he’s done.. Once you take those away he’s not necessarily the same man. (He’s still Dalinar obviously but not evil Dalinar) We.Get.Dalinars.Future. In the Nightwatcher scene (if anybody’s got an E-Book copy they could paste it here) He was not going to change into a better man This was his most probable future, so it is what we are going to work with I repeate. It implies explicitly in the text Dalinar would not have been a better man without Cultivation. That is the crux of my rebuttal so please don’t ignore it Could be that wasn’t Ruins power set Cultivation is growth change Ruin is Decay If Cultivation can take away some memories that means she can take whatever she wants right? If she takes select memories and only leaves memories that she wants, and takes away all the drives she doesn’t Doesn’t this mean he is changed? But again: Sidepoint
  12. Memories make up a person “A man is a s of his experiences” right? Without the context of experience a soul is just a newborn child Sadeas would have found a way to bring retribution to Rathalas, whether with the thrill or without but that’s a side point that we can come back to later if you want That was a misunderstanding I meant Dalinar changed alot Yes a man is his experiences and his drive, without that there is no growth You also have no evidence that Dalinar would have changed at all without Cultivation while I have evidence to the counter No do you have OB on you right now? look at page 1076 3/4 down the page right until he sees the Nightwatcher (I can’t copy the whole thing right now) he sees his future in the forest Cultivation took Dalinars memories that is a fact we have known for years
  13. Nobody said he was a new person, at least I never did He was an incredibly changes person when someone takes away what makes a man his memories and his drive what if that man is left? Only the good parts, Yes, Sadeas would have found a way to convince Dalinar, maybe even killing Evi himself to do it
  14. We got a look at what Dalinar would have been without Cultivation, it was a horrible evil look After Cultivation something else happened Saying Cultivation had a very little affect is completely incorrect
  15. There’s a difference between influence and direct change the thrill was an influence, it flared your emotions while Cultivation made something completely new and not really connected to Dalinar
  16. Oh yah I have no clue who that is still no disrespect intended but next time you do one of these can you do a slightly less obscure character
  17. We get his future in the forest scene and it is not a good one
  18. Stop him for cracking the code The entire Cosmere is probably afraid of Gavilar because of his discoveries (assuming Kelsier knew about A-Light which I think is likely)
  19. I think this means he’s already cracked the code to CS and is still alive...
  20. This is my thought process on this: 1: The path Dalinar was on was to become an even more insane depot that would continue to kill people + 2: He was only saved because of Cultivation’s interference = 3: Cultivation caused Dalinars change alot of you seem to be referencing therapies and stuff which isn’t relevant here because over here Cultivation did the heavy lifting and Dalinar just asked to be fixed for his own sake, and not to help the people he’s hurt
  21. Oh well it’s probably one of those priests that Hrathen is in charge of, right? If it is I have no clue what their name is what they look like or what they say, do , or if they matter
  22. Dalinar didn’t know that He didn’t want to be a better person he wanted the voices to stop why does the redeem yourself for the murder of hundreds By pruning she gave Odium a weapon, that’s what she says if someone does all the work of paving a path and removes all obstacles away, someone walking on that path cannot claim credit for doing anything, everything was laid out for him by an outside entity
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