The Unknown Character

Yeah, I'm not going to risk it on Doc's ability to solve riddles tbh This was before I knew they could cheese it Still worth doing today and tomorrow if you have the funds

While you're busy crushing our hopes and dreams, what have you to say to my impeccable logic? Votes are placed before rollover, meaning the Mask wearer is a perfectly valid target for votes, they would simply survive the exe

That is quite irritating. I wonder if it's even worth exing within the Mask candidates tomorrow. Maybe Aman will like my logic and change his mind though

Okay, so this should be more than enough discussion posts so I don't need to keep splitting it up. PM strategy: Stone Mask wearer cannot receive PMs (equip comes before receipt). Therefore, someone (well, multiple people preferably all three of me, Ash, Wahr) needs to PM everyone who could ever possibly have gotten the Mask a unique player-specific codeword. The Postman is also told that these PMs couldn't be sent, so we have a four way authentication. I don't know if it's possible Rupee wise, but the Postman may also be the Stone Mask holder, but that should be obvious when no PMs are delivered. There's just one more problem. @Amanuensis, can they put on the Stone Mask in the day to avoid that very exe? That seems to be what the OoA says, but I would like to argue that votes would still technically be placed before the player became untargetable, meaning that they either die to the exe or survive the exe without second place dying. Yes, but my point is that wasn't the relevant math when people were putting their actions in

Coco counts for calculations last turn, though that's still only 5 Edit: Ninja’d while replying to a ninja You could be lying about getting MoS l1, no?

The problem is that one of those should realistically be Burnt, but Burnt only dies if she's village/not lying about MoS. Hmm. Oh. We can just make Burnt the second most votes, that way, she — and nevermind I'm stupid I don't think this is very reliable tbh, we should just rely on figuring out the Stone Mask through PMs imo. Post about how to do that coming either after someone posts or in the morning for that sweet sweet money

That was a lot of pages. I've been reading for 40 minutes straight. Currently thinking Coco is the best move. There are the reasons that have been discussed to death, but let's say e/e Burnt/Coco here. One of them had the Mask of Scents. The other one can afford Stone today. They want us to exe the one that bought the Mask. That means, unless this is somehow an insane psyop from Burnt/Coco/TJ, Burnt is telling the truth. Burnt was much more likely to get exed going into this, especially with their tracking claim, making them the fall guy for the elims. TJ has kinda explained this, but I feel this adds some nuanced that wasn't quite there. I might just be saying the same thing again though. So, I was thinking for PMs that we just make everyone send enough Rupees worth of PMs that it proves they couldn't buy the Mask. Which method depends on the OoA. We'll talk about it tonight Why not all three tbh The Postman can also verify who sent and received PMs btw I explained why I don't think this is the case up above (I quoted this before I planned out my post, so sue me, I feel the notif is still useful for Drake) TJ/Doc has been floating around in my head, but I'm not willing to commit to that world because they have infinitely better vibes than Coco, and the below is pretty good reasoning as well

You can't do conditional bids afaik All villagers who can afford the Stone Mask must try to buy it We need the rng to be as in our favor as possible Wait wait wait, not that this matters, but they can take off the mask? I thought that it being unable to be removed meant they couldn’t take it off Also, I just realized, whoever gets the Mask won't be invincible until n2. We just need to vote off whoever got the mask on d2 (we can figure out who got the mask by making them do PMs I think?)

Hmm. Hmm. I was kinda liking the Coco votes, then I saw who they're coming from and I don't like them anymore. I think, if the elims wanted Mist to be exed today, there would be more votes on Mist. Elims don't go straight to bussing when they have a good reason not to. That means they don't want Mist exed today (or are fine with Burnt). That means they're either happy with a Burnt/Mist 50/50 and win d3 (that means they have a third teammate who can afford Stone imo), or Mist is actually the elim here, or they're putting their energy into a Coco exe, which is my slight suspicion right now.

I hope my post earlier counted as discussion. If it didn't, I dislike how Mist is talking about the kill clearing him. Feel like it's setting him up to be cleared while another elim can still grab the mask n1 or something. ~ Heroshi felt abandoned by the world around him. He had become so absorbed in the world around him that he had ignored the outside. It was time to start paying attention once again.

I still need to get my discussion posts in though, Let's talk about how not talking will not help the elims

Hmm. I'm not sure here. Not fond of a Stick exe, but I understand the logic. I'm kinda at a loss here until we get some alignment information.

It's my charming personality I'm sure I don't think the elims throw the loop here, so I doubt an exploded Archer is e unless the elims already lost, making two of Dive/TJ/D3 exe elim as well

I feel like that would be less helpful? I'm above thirty and I think I can hit forty by EoL. Exing for rupees is a consideration, but I still think we should be going after at least possible suspects.

Now that we're out of the night, I'm okay saying that I do not have the Blast Mask as I'm sure most people were fairly confident. I just wanted to sow a little bit of uncertainty plus see how Araris reacted. Didn't get much though tbh

I know you wouldn't So the poison must lie in the cup in front of you But the elims know I'm a confirmed villager, so the poison must lie in the cup in front of me But the elims also know that their teammate Araris actually does have the poison in front of him In conclusion, we all have the Blast Mask

Just saw this, thanks for adding confusion here for the elims, now they'll never know who's telling the truth

I'm guessing he either didn't want to get targeted by the elim killed if village, or wanted to draw away the masks if elim. Edit: He also may have thought it would help him not get exed as either alignment

So I definitely have thoughts Just finished up catching up, and I'm kinda going crazy Cause Araris can't have the Blast Mask, cause I have it Edit: I am now realizing maybe that wasn't the best idea to claim, but the elims didn't target a cleared villager last cycle anyways ~ Heroshi was beyond confused. Somehow, the town had been repaired then destroyed again before he realized. He barely escaped in his confusion. He was wearing his Hero costume, but it didn't fit properly. It was still sized for a child. Oddly enough though, his mock sword and shield had grown, so he was forced to escape town in an ill fitting costume while holding perfectly normal weapons. Well, normal except for the fact that they would be completely useless in a fight.

This post gives me massive Araris/TJ e/e vibes Also don't like the acknowledgement of fitting his on criteria as that could be e!Araris tmi-ing his reasoning for train dynamics I saw you were already asked but I don't think you responded Why do you think Burnt would be a likely teammate for Mist when she was Mist's countertrain/the train that first took pressure off of Mist I think N3 is actually less likely to be hit by some masks because theoretically more charges could be used before n3 Curious why a train having a lot of traction, then disappearing is suspicious to you? Like, I know how it can be, but generally a train losing traction is indicative of villagers reevaluating or elims having to protect teammates, neither of which indicates Burnt here I would think

I vote for it! OP Blast Mask

Oh yeah was going to respond to that but forgot Basically, there wasn't a convo, I do not currently think you're e, I just acknowledge that there is enough of a possibility to make me not want to exe the person who was pretty explicitly your countertrain

Thoughts on what mask I should buy? I was going to say no, but actually, yes I do E!Mistfallen, Burnt is v and a counter wagon V!Mistfallen, Burnt is no more likely to be e! Then anyone else Therefore, technically, Burnt is less likely to be elim I prefer Divergent over Stick for vibe reasons

See, votecounts are for people that aren't smart enough to keep them in their heads I am slightly worried Mist is an elim who had teammates see a train beginning, so they all piled on to make people like it less. That used to be a fairly common tactic, but I'm not confident that's what's going on here Technically, the best turn to send in a kill is n1, as it gives you the most flexibility and reaction time and least info to analyze Not particularly, that's my problem That's why I'm inclined to think Mist and Accusers are v!, nobody is pushing, therefore the elims are happy with the current climate

Heroshi frowned. He felt, cramped. He stood, unsteadily in his little cubby. "Ow!" He rubbed his head, the looked at the roof, but he missed his head with his hand, and, the world swaying, fell back down. Something was wrong. Everything was wrong. Heroshi was... big. ~ Totally didn't think the turn was over. I had a realization that the reason the elims killed n2 was probably in case the kill got blocked. Not sure why they didn't kill n1 with that logic, but I think suboptimal play is the only option tbh As I was saying earlier, the Mist train just feels weird. I feel like every post I read is saying how they v!read Mist or at least don't like the train, but there was barely a counterwagon and even still I'm pretty sure they're in the lead, though the last vc is a while ago and it's too late at night for me to double check (my guess is Stick is behind by two votes, but idk) But I think it might just be weird in a way that everyone involved is just a villager tbh, like nobody pings me here as being e!motivated