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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Tbh you had me fooled for a bit. I would've been more convinced if you hadn't voted on Mat. Either you were voting an elim to cover your tracks, or you weren't the Tineye. Still, I didn't know for sure until you got voted off, so good job! XD I figured I needed to make sure it didn't look like I was sheeping you, and once you dropped the hint that Fifth was an elim, everything made a lot of sense. I definitely had fun, so big checkmark there!- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I will say I wasn't completely sure what to do with the Watchwoman role, especially since I wasn't able to be super active early on. Matrim definitely didn't get a lot of help from me. I know the inactivity for me was partially due to summer stuff, but I think the shorter cycles of a QF would suit this format pretty well.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Oh thank goodness. I was the Watchman, so I knew Mat was the Tineye, and Elandera's vote on Mat had me very worried. XD Good game, everyone! That was super fun!- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
[Insert trolling last-minute post here]- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ohhh yes, I did see that post! I just forgot about it. XD Your logic makes sense in that post, except I disagree that her lack of activity is contrary to the elim wincon. The eims would want to have people of varying participation to diversify their opportunities for election. Plus I think Bip is GMing (or co-GMing) the LG or something? I could definitely be remembrring that wrong, but if that's right, I'm guessing that's pretty time-consuming. As for what you're saying about everyone hopping to you/Bip e/e and not giving a v/e option, that's what I was trying to say with my first point. I said I might trust you, but not your read on Bip, which meant that you could be vil and she could be elim. You say it's incongruous to trust you but not your votes, but the whole point of this game is that we (the village) don't know who's who, so while we might both be village, we can easily come to different conclusions based on the information we've gathered here. I think it's perfectly valid to disagree. Someone can be village and still be wrong in their reasoning. For me, it comes down to which of the two on the chopping block I read more village, and that's Alvron. He's a null read for me, which is better than my mild-elim read of Bip (which, I'll admit, is mostly gut and based on a distrust of the train on her). (I don't think you sound snappish, you're just defending your vote, which is perfectly reasonable.)- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I can at least clarify my own change of heart on that topic. First, just because I trust you, doesn't mean I trust your reasoning behind Bip. Second, no one's actually explained the reasoning on Bip this round, even though I specifically asked. Third, the closer I looked at the Bip thing, it looks like a setup: one elim purposefully staying kinda quiet and inactive to allay suspicion (Bip), another elim not voting on her to seemingly clear her (Striker), and a third elim pointing out that fact to get us to vote for Bip (Fifth). I did trust you at the beginning of the round, Fifth, but the more I looked at things, the fishier they looked. It's not that I trust Alvron more than you now, though, it's that I trust Alvron more than Bip.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Lol I didn't look at your analysis. But at least we agree on that! Have we been playing the same game? Either you're a very mislead villager, or you're an elim the only person I agree with on your list is Lotus, maybe Mat. Knowing that I'm village, I guess it makes sense to trust people who are willing to vote for me? I'm still a little wary of that, but I don't see elims voting on villagers at this point. (Unless that's what they want me to think...)- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'm calling it now. Biplet is evil and the train on her came about through clever storytelling by Fifth and their fellow elims.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Jsyk, I'm a she I'm honestly really confused for all the support for Biplet. There doesn't seem to be much analysis of her own actions and eveything seems to be based off of "Striker didn't switch to vote her when he could have." He could have easily wanted to gain people's trust by switching to elect a villager so that we would elect him without throwing sus on any of his teammates or revealing himself (which is exactly what happened). Idk, am I missing something? For now, Alvron.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Your color tag didn't go through. You don't need a slash in the first set of brackets. Out of everybody here right now, I think I most trust Fifth, maybe Alvron. But I also know I'm village, so I'll probably hold off on voting unless someone I don't trust starts to take off.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Pretty sure we just go automatically into the elims-try-to-find-the-Tineye round- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'm gonna make a prediction. Everyone who's forgotten that Illwei isn't in the game anymore is an elim.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Illwei switched out for Mist, remember? Also I'm out of town right now, so this is a bad time for me to be WL not that it's necessary, since I'm voting Archer. I think your list is pretty accurate, but I also want to add Lotus to the sus list. They said they didn't like the Striker vote but didn't switch to Archer. It could be nothing, but it seems like distancing to me. Can confirm, I am indeed a she.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So you don't think it's a good idea to vote Striker, so you're adding another person to the mix?- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Oh, I know that your numbers were arbitrary, and that you said that. Arbitrary numbers seem like a good way to get people who aren't paying too much attention to go "huh, that makes sense" and follow your logic. But I'm sure I'm reading too much into that. Lol, I get it, I don't even know what I'm saying half the time anyway. Some of the connections people are making between players don't make any sense and everything's kind of jumbled. My brain hurts too much for this game. I'm fine with the Striker plan, I don't really have a read on him, but I don't agree with all of the things people think his flip is going to tell us. The Striker/Biplet connection Fifth made seems shaky to me. IDK. I want to vote Archer for WL but he said he didn't want that.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Something about Fifth's reasoning strikes me as off and I don't like it. Maybe it's because they included hard number percentages when there's really no reason for that? But I'm much more inclined to trust Archer than Striker right now. Szeth flipping bill doesn't clear Archer (or Striker IMO), but it is a point in Archer's favor. Like I said last round, why be willing to trust Archer's suggestion that we vote for Szeth if we don't trust him enough to vote him? (Sorry if my vote doesn't work, I'm on mobile.)- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
If people trust Archer enough to elect Szeth based on their advice, then theybshould trust Archer enough to wlect him, right? If Szeth flips vil, that doesn't prove that Archer's vil, and if he flips elim, that doesn't mean Archer's elim.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Plus there's probably at least 5 elims (including Elandera), since they need to get 4 seats, possibly more than that, so it's likely that at least a few elims aren't being very active.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I broke my glasses and I have a headache but I feel like I need to contribute some more. The problem is that I'm suspicious of a lot of people and it's hard to lower down to who I'm not suspicious of. This voting is confusing. Can someone give me the reasoning for trusting Szeth? I think I missed something. Why specifically did you choose to vote for Fifth? Something here that I don't like but idk what. Idk, Archer feels the most trustworthy to me rn, but that's a shaky vote.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I am doing an awful job of keeping up with this. I've been reading things as the notifications come in, but do I remember anything I read? Not really. Tomorrow should be a less eventful day for me, so I'm gonna try and catch up then. Right now I'm kinda sus of Tani? But maybe that's just because Tani's posted a lot. Archer's set of four seems to be a joke? But if not, then it's just all the really active people. I don't drink soda or I'd vote for Steel. :/ Anyone have a current VC? Or a TL;DR?- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I've had a long day and I need to get caught up but I'm tired and my brain won't focus. So I'm just going to say hi, I'm here. I was reading the rules earlier and I feel like this game is really elim-sided? Maybe I just think that because there's two ways for them to win and the final vote is completely in their hands. The elims have an absolute minimum of 4 members, since they need to get four seats, but they likely have a lot more. But this is a game where we're trying to find fellow villagers anyway. Yep, ties are random. I think you're right that ties give us a better chance of getting villagers elected to the council thing (as long as we actually do have more members than the elims), but it also gives us less information to go off of. I'm gonna wait until my brain's in better shape and I can get caught up more before I vote.- 608 replies
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Mid-Range Game 51: Come On Down To Irontown
Liranil replied to Kasimir's topic in Sanderson Elimination
This sounds confusing, but I'll join! I haven't done much actual roleplay in SE games, but I might make a character for this one.- 608 replies
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- retirement was short
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- khassid has a vocabulary
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- broadsheet edition
- plot what plot?
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So there's 40ish minutes left, Szeth hasn't been on, Matrim hasn't provided their vote explanation (although studying for finals is a legit reason), and Illwei hasn't said anything else. For the sake of self-preservation, I'm switching my vote to Szeth. Archer's reasoning is solid, too. This puts things in a tie. If it ends as a tie, and if Szeth dies in the tie and they're elim, then that would pretty much disprove my idea that the secret role is manipulating ties. If I die... Well, I'm sorry I wasn't more help!
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Now I'm curious! What's your reasoning?
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Yeah, I know, you just mentioned you needed to catch up on past cycles and your voting info was based off C1. And that's a good point. I'm curious to see if that still holds up in Archer's opinion. But like i said, that vote is likely to change.
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