Quintessential
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Guess we're back to low-info kills then. Gears had literally one mention in my notes doc, and it was his name in the list of players at the beginning : P Also, hey Connie! welcome to the game (fun fact, this is the first time I have ever survived past C3 in a Long Game. I'm so proud of myself! )
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*sigh* well I was going to do in-depth vote analysis today but I got a late start on hw so I'm just now sitting down to really look at this and at this point there are two hours left in the cycle so I may as well just wait until whoever dies this turn flips : P I mean unless it's me who dies. Pls don't kill me k thx bye Edit: wait no there's less than an hour left xD where is my head today...
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Awww Striker got there first with clearing Ash (but yes, I agree with Striker's assessment of those three--the reasons being: Ash tried to vote Whysper at the end of D2 and let Dannex survive, but got there too late, and he also cast a more or less deciding vote on Whysper just now; Whysper was voting Books from the start of D3, and Books has voted her this cycle and last cycle; and Forge was the second vote on Whysper last cycle). I'm currently quite sus of Elan, for consistent bad vibes from all of her vote posts, and then a last-minute vote on the same person the now-confirmed elim was voting. Not feeling great about Randby either, except that she voted on Araris when the other option was still Books, so eh. The post felt off, as Araris and... somebody else mentioned. No idea what I think of Araris--I'm once again with Striker xD I'd clear him, but bussing. It's late for me so I'll wait until tomorrow to post anything more... hopefully now that there's a confirmed elim my vote analysis stuff will be good for something
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I just got here lol I've been working on college stuff for a few hours now... and thus, I too am burned out.
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Neither, it's Araris being annoyed at low activity levels : P
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Wait when did I do that? Not that I don't believe you, I just can't find the post xD
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So that's the second Elandera vote that has read off to me... hmmm I don't remember you being in MR46 (I believe you mean 49)
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*sigh* so I tried to sit down and do analysis but I'm... idk. Not really getting anything new? Basically I found some tinfoily connections between Striker and Araris that make... basically no sense and mean nothing, I've concluded that Whysper and Ash aren't e/e (because Ash tried to let Dannex survive C2, which would have killed Whysper), and that Tani's voting is weird but I have no idea whether that's AI or not. And... yeah. That's about it. Current VC: Araris (2): Striker, Quinn Tani (1): Araris Books (1): Whysper Quinn (1): Tani Araris is right about the number of votes... it would be nice if more than just the five of us were voting at this point : P
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I have absolutely no idea, actually xD I think it was you choosing to trust an elim and vote a villager, or some such situation... but I don't really know.
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The reason I thought your vote on Illwei in D1 was suspicious wasn't because I thought Dannex was sus at the time. Actually it was the other way around. I voted for Dannex that cycle (in the end) because I thought your vote on Illwei was suspicious, especially given the timing. So no, Dannex's flip (as village) is NAI on you--as I've been saying since N1--and thus it doesn't affect my suspicion of you at all. This evening I'll sit down and start working through what v!Archer means for... everything. xD In the meantime, my random bad gut feelings are primarily directed at Striker (which I think is just my irrational paranoia at this point), Elan, Ash (maybe?), and Forge and Tani (and you, of course, but you already know that). Though idk that listing them is all that helpful. Whysper I have a good (ish) gut feeling on, and her votes seem pretty village, but I'm not making any assumptions based on that : P Ninja'd by Forge, I'll edit in a response to her once I post and see what she's said. Edit: @forget me not the timing and tone and reasoning of his vote on Illwei; Illwei and Dannex were tied for most votes and he broke that tie. He did it agreeing with reasoning that (in retrospect) was pretty flimsy and that normally I'd expect him to argue with or ignore, and he voted on the more active player in the tie, which is also odd for him. Last cycle, he didn't vote on either of the main candidates, choosing to instead vote the inactive TJ (who's running the other game right now, so like... not surprising he hasn't been around much). Also some things he's said since I placed that vote that feel off to me (drawing conclusions based on the assumption that Whysper is village, when we don't know whether she is, being sus of me for being cheerful of all things? I hate being elim xD, and so on)
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I think Whysper is referring to where he said "I'm already a prime NK target, so I might as well..." and then proceeded to claim. I'm... not sure where that came from either, but I doubt it's really worth worrying about tbh. In my case, I just feel uneasy agreeing with someone so much; I'm kinda used to having to actively defend a lot of the things I say, so seeing you agree with me (and me agree with you) is... weird to me. Also I definitely get the thing about certainty I got attacked for that last LG (by the elims I was accusing of being elims xD). Other than that, the only thing really is that vote switch thing from C1 (tie-not tie-tie : P) but... eh. I'm definitely paranoid enough that I don't trust you, but I'm not in a hurry to exe you either and besides I still feel bad about LG74.
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I've no idea what Maill has to do with this game xD Edit: I like your new name
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I would love to know which things in LG74 specifically especially since I was village in that game...
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There's no reason to assume that Dannex/Whysper are v/v; also, even if they are, why is my vote sus? @Tani I assume this is a futile question, but why are you voting Striker? ^ This xD Striker feels vil to me, but like... vil in a way that makes me paranoid he's actually elim. It's very confusing lol
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Huh. Okay. Well I'm now realizing from going through and greening out Archer's name in my notes that I'd managed to conf-bias my way into believing he was elim... so thanks to the elims for clearing that up for me (and sorry 'bout that, Archer). It may take me... a while to figure out where to go from here : P but for now I'll vote Araris, as I'd said I would.
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Oh, no, that bit was in response to Gears. His original order was Highstorm, Vengeance, Highstorm, Democracy!, Crisis, Anarchy. I'm suggesting we do Highstorm, Vengeance, Democracy!, Crisis, Highstorm, Anarchy. instead.
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Or we could do that I'd actually suggest doing Democracy! next Night (N3) in that case, and then moving the Highstorm to the Night after Crisis. Doing Democracy! before the second Highstorm event doesn't change what people will be able to buy during Democracy!, and two more people (realistically both villagers) will be able to purchase items than would be able to if we waited another cycle. That would make the new order: Highstorm (N1), Vengeance (N2), Democracy! (N3), Crisis (N4), Highstorm (N5), Anarchy (N6) with the last three potentially being adjusted for specific circumstances.
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I can support this too--we'll all have at least 5 spheres, which is enough to purchase any one item in the shop if the items are at half price (with the obvious exception of the knife, which nobody would be able to purchase even if we waited for the second Highstorm event before triggering Democracy!)
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Very believable
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I mean, I would think Striker would be smart enough not to object and to pick a color different from his usual, but if you say so...
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100% agree with this. If Dannex had kept surviving I would have become totally paranoid that he was an elim and the people keeping him alive were elims, and all of my reads would probably have been built around that... and I would guess I'm not the only one either : P
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I tried to start saying it wasn't that and was actually something else, but I couldn't... actually... think of anything else. So uh. You may be right : P
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*blink* I... you're right xD I have no idea why that is... people seem to trust me or be listening to me somewhat at least so maybe it's that? Sadly, no ;-; but that's a good idea! PM people should make a PM for me and Gears
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Oh xD I hadn't even noticed that... *Ed Sheeran starts playing in the background*
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I wouldn't be surprised if one of the extraneous votes during C1 was an elim. Oh. Wait. There's only one of those, TJ : P and I'm reading him village. (that at least hasn't changed with Dannex's alignment). Going back and looking through my notes, this time with Dannex's name in green... okay. The people who stand out most to me right now are: Archer, not because of anything he's done or how he's voted but rather because of tone last cycle. I could see him being village, and just believing that Dannex wasn't a good exe, but I can just as easily see an elim knowing that the person he's defending is village and wanting to get credit for that. Actually, I can see that more easily, because of... something. Gut read, tone, what have you. One of Ash, Whysper, and Tani (the three people who voted on Dannex C1 who aren't confirmed village (for me, that is; I'm on there too : P)). Of the three, Tani seems normal to me (as in, the way she was in LG74). Whysper was the first to vote on Dannex and tbh I still don't think it felt like a vote that was supposed to generate a train, so not elimmy in and of itself. Since the next two people to vote on Dannex were Illwei (confirmed village) and Tani (who, as I said... idk, I could be super wrong about her but my gut says village), I have a hard time seeing it as an elim-generated train, which makes me think that any elims on Dannex C1 were later voters. So, me and Ash. But I know I'm village, so... Ash? I have to say, this is in line with MR48 Ash (he was elim then), but it could also be in line with village games that I'm forgetting due to confbias, so eh. Alternatively, Tani is elim and has been playing me for a fool, or Whysper is elim and just got lucky with starting the train. Araris and Elan, still. As I said last cycle, Dannex flipping village was NAI for the two of them. One thing I will note, which just occurred to me and I can't believe I didn't think of this before: in LG74, Araris got... really indignant when I started attacking and voting Illwei, saying that I shouldn't be trying to vote off active players C1. Now, Illwei was his teammate in that game, but I highly doubt that his stance itself was faked (if it was, Araris, feel free to shout at me ). So... where was his hesitation to vote off active players--the very same active player--during C1 of this game??? I'd expect Araris to at least ignore a vote on a player like Illwei, but he responded by saying he agreed with my (not very strong) reasoning, and he voted her. I know meta arguments aren't always great but this is... I mean, pretty inconsistent with Araris in general, right? idk. The fact that I'm comparing to an elim game where he defended a teammate probably invalidates this somewhat, since we know Illwei was village in this game, but... well, it's not nothing. Elan is also an idea--I'd somewhat dismissed her before because I thought Dannex was village, and since she was the first to vote Dannex, it didn't make sense for her to be his teammate. But now that he's flipped village, I'm back to my bad read on Elan's C1 vote. Not nearly as strong as the read on Araris though. Not feeling great about Forge, but she's a new player so eh. Not worth pursuing unless we run out of other options. Striker also... idk. The thing with the tie-not tie-tie thing C1 was weird but it's not... idk. I just don't know what to think about Striker. So I'm just gonna leave him alone for now, 'cause like... he deserves a game where he can play without suspicion for a bit, for once, amirite? : P So... as a closing of sorts: Three people I'm least sus of: TJ, Tani, Whysper (?) Three people I'm most sus of: Araris, Archer, Ash (?) And everyone else I'm slightly suspicious of but not for anything concrete (though who are we kidding, I have nothing concrete on Archer or Ash either really : P)
