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Okay this is disturbing. We might only have one more chance to get this right. Though if we can decide on who we are choosing next in the PoE, we might be able to have a Villager target them for a night kill. Not sure if that helps or if it is better to just wait to see who the Elims kill and discuss. I assume it was Kaladin who used Adhesion on Somebody from Sel. But the question is whether they were actually trying to make sure they didn't get executed or if this was just to throw suspicion on them. I think we might need to have everyone just fully claim their blades and their actions next day cycle to see if we can figure this all out. I may also reveal the 2 players to receive Nightblood and Ishar in case I die. I don't think it matters at this point if the Elims know if they didn't already. They would have to night kill the person and then wait another day before they can claim. Plus the person might need to gain enough Stormlight yet. Things might be over by that time. And the Elims may have actually claimed Nightblood this time even with the risk of getting caught. It's a very good blade to have and anyone could argue that they randomly received it. We can't risk executing someone just based on getting the blade. There would have to be more to go on.

Okay, thank you for this info. So I feel that Vasher is still null or even slightly leaning Elim since they don't have Chanarach's Honorblade to help confirm them as Village for not using it. @He who goes DORIYAH!! Could you please detail out all your day and night actions for the game so far? Thanks.

@Ookla the Shadowed Please let us know if you want to block, challenge, or do nothing.

Ahh yes, I just thought about checking Kaladin's abilities for any killing ability and saw he has Adhesion, too. Oh, thanks for bringing this up about the Vyre ability. Hmmm, Vasher could still have Chanarach but didn't use the kill ability. The only other person that could have Chanarach is consensus Villager. So Chanarach probably is in Villager hands and has only been used for PMs instead of killing. I'll switch my vote back to Gears then. EDIT: Actually it would better confirm Vasher if they do have Chanarach yet didn't use the kill ability. If they just have Vedel, that doesn't really help to confirm them as Villager. So Vasher should probably say which of the blades they have. If they lie, the person with the actual blade can CC.

Actually on the vote manipulation, Ishar's Honorblade is up for grabs, so it can't be used yet to cancel a vote. The other blade with Adhesion is Jezrien's Honorblade, and that's with someone considered Village. As for Cohesion for adding a vote, I think only Kalak's Honorblade has that. It's with someone who I've seen mostly considered Village, though there has been some suspicion of them. I'll sheep the vote on Gears since that seems to be the Village consensus. EDIT: Added info on Doriyah/Vasher below and switched vote... I agree that Doriyah/Vasher is towards the top of the PoE, so I think I should go ahead and reveal that they have had a blade since the beginning. It's either Chanarach's Honorblade or Vedel's Honorblade. Someone who is probably Village has had the other blade of these since the beginning as well. Both blades have Abrasion for opening PMs. Chanarach's Honorblade has Division for killing a player, so an Elim would obviously use that instead of Abrasion. Vedel's Honorblade has Progression for saving a player, so again an Elim would likely use that for protecting their own instead of opening PMs. N2 had 2 night kills, though the 2nd could have been from Nightblood at that time yet (or would Szeth have had enough Stormlight then?). Though N4 had 2 night kills also, and Nightblood was in my hands at that time. Okay, this was suppose to be a quick edit just to reveal some info, but now that I've actually examined those night kills, I've convinced myself that Doriyah/Vasher probably has Chanarach's Honorblade and has been doing the extra night kills. Gears Doriyah/Vasher BTW, if those extra night kills were done instead by a Villager with Chanarach's Honorblade, then we may need you to let us know so we don't go through with executing Doriyah/Vasher possibly incorrectly based on blades.

Okay, Negative_Null is now a Reformist. That ends Round 5, so now starts Round 6! @Negative_Null Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 3 ) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Negative_Null (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Shard of Reading (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Okay, making him take income. @Aspiring Writer Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 1 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Negative_Null (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Shard of Reading (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

@Ookla the Shadowed Your turn next [ TR ] ( 1 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Negative_Null (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Shard of Reading (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

I'm not sure if you saw that I already outed myself as the Stone Shaman right at the end of the day phase. So I do hope anyone with the protection blades noticed and will protect me. It will be even better if I'm protected and the Elims still try to kill me and lose a night kill.

Haha, I had actually noticed this earlier and thought how interesting that was. Anyway, people didn't really say much during this night phase. I guess I'm not going to get into details of where the blades currently are. I think most are in Villager hands anyway. I'm pretty sure the Elims haven't been claiming blades to avoid getting caught.

Okay, you are now a Loyalist. @Chasmgoat Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 1 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Negative_Null (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Shard of Reading (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Ahh okay, Thanks. Updating list. Okay sounds good. @Somebody from Sel Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Negative_Null (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Shard of Reading (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Hmm, okay. I guess Vapor was actually village despite some of the suspicious behavior. And they did have Ishar, so I still think Eternum's story checks out and feel they are clear. Mat as Battar must have had a way to steal the blade after Eternum confirmed possessing the blade. Kings_Way/Vapor had gotten Battar and then either traded with Mat or somehow Mat had a way to swap blades (maybe the steal ability is a blade-swap ability, but if Battar doesn't have a blade then there's nothing to swap to the other person). Let me know how much we want to openly discuss other blades now. I hope someone can protect me this night. I think the person with Paliah's Honorblade is Village. Not sure about the other Vedel’s Honorblade.

Okay, I believe Eternum is telling the truth. I don't think there is much time before the EoD and I don't want them to get lynched suddenly. I think there are more votes on Vapor now, but it could go to Eternum still. I am the Stone Shaman. I was worried about outing, but I think things are far enough along and I really need to make sure this info gets used. We don't have PMs this time so I can't continue to pass along stuff. Eternum did start with a blade, but then it was gone. I was told that the previous Stone Shaman didn't do any reclaims, so I believe Battar might have had a way to steal a blade because Mat had one the next day. I think Mat made a deal with either Kings_Way/Vapor or STINK to trade Ishar for Battar. One of those had received Battar and still had a blade after Mat left with Battar. So I think one of those has Ishar and has been doing vote manipulation. Since more people think STINK is village, I would say it is probably Kings_Way/Vapor. I will try to explain more stuff during the night phase. I might get killed afterwards, but it is worth the risk I think to get this info out that I've gone through.

Ahhh, no problem. @Shard of Reading Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 5 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Shard of Reading (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Ahhh, Devotary was one of those secret roles, correct? With the Jezrien's Blade. BTW, is there info on those secret roles? I just saw the death message declaring them as the secret role. But I wasn't sure if anything indicated whether that role was village-aligned or elim-aligned or some other win-con. On D2, I saw that there was also vote manipulation to remove a vote off Quinn. So that must have been with Ishar's Blade. I'm going to put my vote on Vapor. The previous player Kings_Way has some suspicious sounding posts, and Vapor hasn't done much to improve that. Like in the above quote, Fura pointed out how Kings_Way hadn't been doing much yet took the time to cast suspicion on Connie. Yeah, don't give the blades to one person. Even if somehow you are 100% sure they are Vil (which I don't know how that would happen, because the Shaman can't use the Honorblades, but maybe secrets) if they die, you've lost the control you have. There was also this reply to a comment Books made about the Shaman and the Honorblades. Books was doing this to appear Village, and it feels like Kings_Way was also just adding onto this comment to appear Village as well. Later, when Vapor replaced in, they did hop onto the Books wagon, but that was already a certain lynch, so again, probably for Village credit.

Was the vote manipulation claimed by anyone? When was Ishar's Blade taken from you? BTW, what are the ways a blade can be taken? Just the Stone Shaman reclaim, or is there a way for a player to steal a blade? I didn't see anything about this in the Surges.

Okay, making Windrunner Supreme take income. @Hentient Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 3 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Ookla the Bored (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

@The Windrunner Supreme Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Ookla the Bored (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

No, only the player being stolen from can block. You can however challenge the Captain if you want. Anyone can challenge a claimed role. That's the end of Round 4. On to Round 5! @00kla Your turn next. Aspiring Writer did mention it earlier, but just another prompt and the game state. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Ookla the Bored (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Well, it's been 24 hours, so going to make him take income. @Aspiring Writer Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Ookla the Bored (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Hi Everyone Thanks for the various summaries of what's been happening. Those definitely help. So do we have a good guess on the number of elims left?

Yes, Embezzle, which will give you the 2 coins currently in the [ TR ] Treasury Reserve. @Ookla the Shadowed Your turn next. [ TR ] ( 0 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Ookla the Bored (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

@Chasmgoat Okay. Since Somebody from Sel chose their cards, you can take your regular turn next. [ TR ] ( 2 ) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 6 ) 00kla (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) The Windrunner Supreme (he/him) [ R ][ A ][ ? ] ( 6 ) Hentient (she/her) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Ookla the Bored (he/him) [ R ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 7 ) Somebody from Sel (he/him) [ L ][ D ][ ? ] ( 2 ) Chasmgoat (he/him) [ L ][ B ][ ? ] ( 3 ) Ookla the Shadowed (he/him) [ L ][ ? ][ ? ] ( 4 ) Aspiring Writer (they/them)

Ahh, well I can reveal for Somebody from Sel that he did have an Ambassador. So Chasmgoat will need to choose a card to lose and Somebody's Ambassador will get replaced with a card from the deck. Then he will still need to choose cards from his originally planned exchange before the turn ends.