Biplet

??? i can prove I scanned you C2 and C3

Okay. C1- Scanned Archer (engineer) C2- Was going to scan Archer, changed to Illwei (no role) when it looked like he would win the exe C3- scanned Illwei (village) C4- scanned Randby (no role) C5- scanned Randby (village)

Alright, yeah, I'm an investigator. But I'm not an elim. Quinn I never outed myself to the thread for obvious reasons, but unfortunately I'm out in the open now, so I guess this means bad news for me . I will not be revealing who I've scanned so far, because I don't want to out people in the thread, but I've not found an elim. Quinn outed Gears and confirmed herself Investigator early on, which I assume was to gain village cred. Also, why didn't you scan Randby twice? Considering she's been voted on a bunch, knowing her alignment would be helpful. Lying about being brigged and then getting angry when people ask if you're brigged + getting angry about getting brigged isn't a good look. Also, Quinn, why out Randby as having no role? She's still in the game.

Quinn isn’t looking good with records still being intact, but she wasn’t lying about gears looks like, so that’s some credit to her. @Illwei sorry I couldn’t respond before rollover, I was in church.

Voting on Azmine, then voting on Illwei this cycle and immediately retracting it after an admittedly shoddy explanation from her. Why would she lie about pming you???

I'm gonna deviate from my norm and vote now instead of waiting for day 2 of the cycle, because I want to get some discussion going. Szeth. For the same reasons as before, but also after the move to save you last cycle, I can't help but see it as suspicious. I must once again, for better or worse, join TJ on a vote on you :P. I'm open to my mind being changed, because I'm starting to see Illwei as a little more suspicious than before, and don't think you're free from suspicion Mat. My null read on you is tipping downward. Also, we had a couple people not speak last cycle, didn't we? Randby still hasn't voted, and I don't think they were here last cycle either. Same for Sart.

Not on its own. It’s the context of everyone else saving you that makes me suspicious I would’ve been shocked if you didn’t self pres

And Azmine is village, and a trapper. I wonder if they used their ability before getting exed. Very suspicious of everyone who suddenly moved to Azmine at the end.

I’m gonna keep my vote on Szeth, because it looks like he won’t win the exe but also because I can’t in good conscience vote on Azmine when I can’t really read ANYTHING from him. I’ll look like a dingus if Azmine flips elim

Yknow, that’s fair XD. I’ll do better to form stronger opinions on my own once I get a better grasp on SE games but hey, at least it means you’re making good points

Hi! Apologies. I've been spending the day catching up with a good friend Some general thoughts: I've noticed Exp's slight lack of arguments, but I don't think it's enough for me to vote on them. Besides the little suspicion I had on them C1, I haven't noticed anything since. Szeth's tunnel on Illwei has been pointed out to give them village cred, but it almost feels like we're shooting ourselves in the foot with that. Paranoia. I agree with TJ: the "I didn't read them elim" is exactly something I would've said the game I played elim to try and discourage suspicion. TJ's MR but I can't remember the number. For better or worse, I'm reading Illwei village. I have nothing on Azmine. Never played a game with them and have no reason to find them suspicious. Szeth Pancakes Reads list: Illwei - Village Quinn - Village Gears - Mild Village Devo - Mild Village TJ - Mild Village Mat - Null Sart - Null Randby - Null Azmine - Null Experience - Mild Elim Szeth - Elim That's not enough elim reads. I'm paranoid

...what's Elo?

I don't like how votes are suddenly moving off Tani right here at the end of the cycle, that worries me. Also, I've never played with Azmine before, so I have no idea what their standard is, whereas Randby's inactivity seems a little more normal for her

Considered it, but I wanna give her a chance to catch up on the previous cycles and make some posts first. I'd feel bad if she died without playing or doing anything suspicious XD VC: Tani (4): Tani, Experience, Biplet, Quinn Illwei (1): Szeth_Pancakes Matrim's Dice (2): TJ, Sart Randby (1): lllwei Azmine (1): Matrim's Dice

I'm keeping my vote where it is I think, because I have no other suspicions but I'm not gonna abstain from voting. Also, are we certain Quinn is still getting brigged every cycle? I'm hesitant to say she's an investigator with no ability Edit: I bring this up bc I'm worried that the brig will get sabotaged and we'll lose people to it

Hello guys gals and nonbinary pals. Why is there a powerpoint?

I've been suspicious of Quinn since this post in C2: I just have to really strongly disagree with this. With such a limited number of players, I can't imagine a good reason to advocate for allowing ties. There's a chance of hitting an elim with one, but the chances of removing two villagers is much higher. I'm reading Quinn mild elim for this, but... I can't in good conscience vote for her. We have a confirmed Investigator through her, and I don't have a strong enough elim read yet to justify voting for Quinn over one message that might have just been made with poor thought. This doesn't read like village at all. This feels like a last ditch attempt to save yourself without a true defense. Why? Why would we regret killing you? What's your real defense? Dying is no fun, I understand that, but this isn't a real reason not to kill you. And why would you advertise that we'd regret killing you? Now there's a target on your back. The elims could go after you anyway, unless you're not worried about that...? Tani. Sorry m'friend

And I'm giving it to you

Yo @Illwei I still wanna know why you're voting TJ. I might be stupid, but I've read back through the other two cycles and I can't find your reasonings for it.

I think I'm not being clear lol. This is from the rules doc in the agent section: I counted the Agent as an engineer bc they can technically repair parts. I didn't realize Archer had speculated four engineers, but if that's the case then good.

Ye I know, but they can technically repair parts, they just also improve them, so I counted them XD

No suspicions really. Illwei is starting to tilt into null read completely, but what does that do for me other than confuse me? Lol Randby still hasn’t shown up, and I worry about what their role could be. With losing the agent, that means we’ve lost 3 engineers: two to the exe and one in the hospital. Chances are those are our only engineers, bc in a 16 player game, four of one role feels pretty lopsided. Unless someone else can prove me wrong, bc lord knows I hope we have another engineer. [1] Hard agree. I know things are busy rn and we can’t force people to show up, but we also have one inactive and a few low activity players. I wanna hear people’s thoughts!! [2] Why?

Well, heyo, there goes the Agent. That happened fast.

Okay lol, completely fair. Thanks for explaining!! Oh shoot I need to reread agent rules. I didn’t realize that the agent improving the part the engineer targeted would make it not work.

Couple of thoughts on this: I haven't noticed anything uncharacteristic from Illwei. I know there were points brought up about her tone + what she said about the doctor, but that just feels like Illwei's general musings and tone in these games. I'm reading her barely village, which tends to be my read of her early on usually. Except, uh, she's been an elim both games I've played with her. Granted, last time she was my teammate XD Tani is Tani. Honestly, I don't find them suspicious. Their sporadic polling and tone just reads as general Tani chaos. Not sure why TJ is suspicious. Agree with Quinn. Can't remember why Exp was voted on in C1. I know I asked about it earlier, but as the cycle has gone on I've been less and less suspicious of Exp. I just can't find a reason this cycle to vote for them. Wasn't the original vote on Archer because he was quiet? He's posted since that og vote from Quinn, unless that's not her only reason and I'm misreading. I agree with some of Devotary's reasoning though. The only strong opinion I see from Archer is about Gears' word choice, which was much appreciated but nothing huge. I have no strong opinions, but I do strongly fear a tie. I disagree that tied deaths could be beneficial to us in the beginning, because it puts pressure on the elims. What if we exe two villagers, and the elims get their kill, and suddenly we have three deaths a day in a 15ish player game? This game would be over before it really gets started. Archer. The reasoning against him isn't perfect, but it's better than the others, and I don't want a tie. Quick additional thought: no one's addressed that the agent didn't improve anything C1. That's weird, so I'm bringing it up. Why didn't the agent do anything?