Illwei
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Its called pocketing look it up
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Kasimir Araris
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You always think its off lmfao Youre tunneling me. Whether its a villager or not, who knows. But its pointless to even acknoledge your points against me -- Still people dont interact with what i think is the most important point which is that if sja has a teammate, they can FUNCTIONALLY SILENCE TWO VILLAGE VOICES EACH CYCLE Convert and kill. Which is why sja never kills d1 I almost want to tr mat for not thinking it through enough -- Also im blatantly not sja and i wouldnt be converted this game because of how often i get mislunched. There is 0 reason to lynch me in this game. -- Edit: Also, for everyone saying it was the right call to vote kas yesterday: youre wrong. You can argue whatever you want but in the end the d1 lynch is about getting information. And we have no more information than last cycle. Oh, whats that? We know kas is down a life? Well woohoo! If hes village hes down a life and is an easier nk and if he's not then hes still not dead and everyone is village reading him for it. Woo. Hoo.
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I simply am not accepting the suspicion. Its bad reasoning and therefore i wont have it. Theres no subtle deflection I am refusing to interact with Kas until he comes to his senses @|TJ| You interact with my first points but not my second?
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The recent long game is relevant because he ignores it and chooses to compare my play this gane to specifically a different, earlier game. I think Sja has no reason to vote Kas. Especially deoending on the player, they might specifically not want to be on a flipped wagon that early
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My vote on kas is completely unfounded Im just hitting people with sticks. What do you think of Kas' progression on me, i mean. I know you dont know much about me but i was in an elim game with Kas as village more recent than LG 78, and so for him not to mention that is interesting to me. Adding that with his flip flop and blatant voting-me-becayse-i-voted-him. The thread is always mine, i just let people borrow it Right now im sharing it with you
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This is our thread now I was swan in the Anon game recently, btw. No one seems to remember that so they can remember that when they coincidentally read this. What do you think of kas' approach to me?
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I thought i said i didnt think he was sja. I also think he isnt not sja. Good to see we have one sane person here though. My point being though that kas claiming suprise + him offering himself up + a converter d1 just. Fits. It doesnt risk failure. It what, takes away two charges? Thats honestly a lot but it leaves three which is good for 1, 2, or 3 converts iirc. And frankly with just one convert you alreasy have enough to be getting functionally two kills a cycle. Regardless of if he was sja or not, kas would almost always be my first pick convertee. EDIT: Also, Drought, you say you have village reads? Shoot them at me and ill shoot them down
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Kasimir
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Kas. The perspective of TMI is exactly the pov that is needed and expected from an argument that is specifically trying to see what sja is thinking Im not going to go through this. That'd be a waste of a wallpost that would be repetitive and boring to read, so I'm just going to say what i said above. That yes my argument assumed TMI. of course it did. Knowing the rational path and feeling the pressure as an elim are two things. Elims are just generally more self aware than villagers. Not just passively self aware, actively self aware. Will they be in the spotlight? Who knows. Will they not want to be? Who knows. And really it just goes back to what Araris said. Objectively? Convert > kill. if you kill someone n1 and n2 then youd be at 9 v. 1 assuming the village kills people. If you convert instead then youll be at 8 v. 2 "What illwei? Why 8!!?!?" Oh thats right. As long as there are 2 or more elims, sja can convert and the non-sja elim can perform the kill. So lets rehash. - killing d1 is practically random anyways, so you dont let a threat you need to kill escape the next day. - converting d1 allows you to functionally silence two village voices the cycles on - the longer you leave people alive the more information they will have and have voiced when converted So yeah. Objectively? Killing somekne D1 is worse. There shouldn't be an argument here. This shouldnt even be a topic discussion really.
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Which is why a kill N1 is much worse for sja than a kill N2. Your reasoning doesnt match your reasoning. A conversion doesnt remove your information, it changes it and adds to it. Which shows with the more information you have. Say I'm Sja. Someone is suspecting me D1, or is helping the village along to see its me. What do I do? Do i kill them? No, i convert them. The next day they work off of their suspicion of me, and its completely normal. Becuase d1s change easily with the more info you have. Now i have a trusted (by the village) companion. How neat. Now say I'm a different Sja. This time i dont think things through and kill that person who was suspecting me. What happens now? Well, if i dont want to die alone and lose the game, i should get in a convert this next cycle just in case someone kills me at night/eliminates me and I need to have a chance at my faction succeeding. So here comes day 2 and someone is much more set on me. Maybe day 3 by the time i convert someone. At this point i have a choice, to kill someone who is a threat, to convert someone who is a threat, to convert someone who is townread but not a threat, or to kill someone who is not a threat. And only one of these is the best move. - killing someone who is a threat eliminates them from the game, obviously - killing someone who is not a threat means that threat stays alive and active. Closer to me dying - converting the threat means that they have to change their reads. Change them further on into the game when that could be seen as more suspect than earlier on. This will lead to both sja and their convertee being outed - converting someone else leaves the same problem as killing them. When the kill would almost be random otherwise, theres no reason to kill insstead of convert
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Well looks like mat was converted Obviously kas wasnt going to kill someone on when he himself is that much closer to death. This goes for everyone playing sja-anat: they wouldnt want to kill someone N1. Day 1 is when people have the least amount of info and are the least of a threat. If you kill (semi-randomly) on n1, then you need to get a convert in sometime later, and the later you get in the game the more you want to be killing people because the more information they have. The fact that Mat and Kas expressed that they would kill instead is ??
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Neither Kas nor Tani is Sja Anat
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i am operation on two hours of sleep any arguments against me are automatically invalid
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I'm not frustrated tbh, maybe I should throw in a few "lol"s or "lmao"s to show that. maybe a couple of " :P. "s, I haven't done those in a while Proposing yourself as a cw to me is either bad form or AtE, and right now I'm pretty sure it's just #2
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you know recently in a game people asked me why i get misexed so much recently after a streak of getting nkd like I didn't have an answer because yall always do and still haven't learned that the things you try to find for me are just NAI but half the people don't want to put in the work EDIT: Also that is the most Sja claim from Kas
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Maybe half of this is more likely to come from a villager in terms of the situation but tone and wording is ech
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Hi Open the Spoiler
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it's kas
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i have come to the conclusion that I didn't read my GMPM til now Also that Kas is sja anat but like kinda rude to kill him d1
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the fact that the response was not to me is saddening
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hello i have not read up but lucky u guys getta know my alignment i am town tbh and this is a fact now everyone should file me away and start lookeing at everone else i think now back to playing codenyames with Esooa an dfriends
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i despise conversion games I'm joining
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lmao bold of you to assume I even submitted an action last night omegalul
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I'm not voting devo unless someone gives me a reason that isn't something about her flip telling thread if i'm an elim or not Chantara
